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Half of black men in the US will be arrested before they turn 23 (lemmy.today)
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Translation: "A black man is familiar with freedom in America. Here it is, uncle Tom's cabin."

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[–] 38 points 1 year ago (5 children)

All of those sound insanely high. If you take a group of 10 random adult men from the US, roughly four of them have been arrested?

Is a lot of it for underage drinking because that law is so far from lived reality?

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Roughly 25% of the country will be arrested, or put on probation at least once in their lives. That's been a steady statistic since the early '90s when Clinton signed his crime bill.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Clinton signed his crime bill

    I wasn't familiar, thanks for the pointer. This rhetoric "though on crime" has been going on from before my birth it seems.

    We cannot take our country back until we take our neighborhoods back. Four years ago this crime issue was used to divide America. I want to use it to unite America. I want to be tough on crime and good for civil rights. You can't have civil justice without order and safety.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I got arrested as a kid for skipping school! I was being sexually assaulted in the school bathroom and was terrified of leaving the house, but obviously the way to solve that was cuffing me and throwing me in juvie.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    Wow that's fucked. In my country the kids going to school is the parents legal responsibility, they can actually get fined if the child is delinquent. But never would the child be arrested.

    I'm very sorry that happened to you, both the sexual assault and the police treatment.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm betting that this counts field arrests and not just people that are brought to the station, booked, and detained. By that definition, my close friend circle in high school would have been right in line with this numbers.

    I, a white cis-man, was technically arrested twice before I was 23 (once for possession of alcohol and once for possession of marijuana) but I've never been brought to the station or read my rights. Both times a field arrest report was filled out and I was issued an appearance ticket with a court date. This was in NY so your experiences with the same crimes might be wildly different.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I'm unfamiliar with the term field arrest. If I get this right, this is what happens when you get arrested for a misdemeanour on site, cited and then immediately let go? Possibly with a requirement of turning up to a police station for booking, or to a court date?

    I read a bit of the paper, and it seems they are simply using the data from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth 1997.

    The relevant NLS topical guide says the following:

    NLSY97 youth respondents are asked whether they have ever been arrested by the police or taken into custody for an illegal or delinquent offense (not including arrests for minor traffic violations) and the total number of times this has happened.

    And looking up the phrasing in the questionnaire is also exactly the same

    Have you ever been arrested by the police or taken into custody for an illegal or delinquent offense (do not include arrests for minor traffic violations)?

    So I guess it would depend on whether respondents consider a field arrest an arrest and report it.

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