▲ 695 ▼ ‘Explosive increase’ of ticks that cause meat allergy in US due to climate crisis (www.theguardian.com) submitted 1 year ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/news@lemmy.world 185 comments fedilink hide all child comments Unusually aggressive lone star ticks, common in the south-east, are spreading to areas previously too cold for them
[–] jellyfishhunter@lemmy.world 174 points 1 year ago (4 children) Meat allergy? Unpleasant but ironically good for the environment. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago (3 children) After reading the article I hope they seek out and bite Donald Trump. Wouldn't that be hilarious if this caused him a meat allergy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago He would starve from hamberder deficiency permalink fedilink source parent [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (1 child) He'd live way longer if he stopped eating McDonald's permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago Only if statins have been invented. 40 years ago he’d have been cooked, but now the cholesterol riddled assholes live for-fucking-ever permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) McDonalds would have to admit that there's actually no real fish in a filet o fish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago Unfortunately for this, the Alpha-gal allergy is only in response to mammalian proteins. Fish and birds are fine. Unless the filet o fish is secretly cat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tartarin@reddthat.com 21 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not only the environment, the overall Americans health too. Each year, 700 000 Americans are dying from heart diseases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) heart diseases There's more than one? Is this like Second Breakfast? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago It would be way easier to be a cardiologist if there were only one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Of course not, next thing you'll say is that there's more than one type of cancer! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Yes it is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago But I'm made of meat! permalink fedilink source parent [–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) Yeah, Lyme Disease can potentially cause that. It's weird they're saying "meat allergy" and not lyme disease, but lyme is pretty bad and can cause lifelong complications (post-treatment lyme disease syndrome) Edit: guess I'm wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fishpen0@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (2 children) The lone star tick actually usually does not carry Lyme, you are thinking of deer ticks. This is an entirely different condition that is caused by an allergic reaction to the lone star ticks saliva which your body confuses with carbohydrates found in most mammalian meats leading to a long term meat allergy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (5 children) Maybe its Mother Nature way of making us stop consuming beef and all become vegan? I mean nature finds a way. The cattle industry is a huge contributor to climate change, so maybe this is a good thing. Of course if this was to affect everyone, you see how quickly the government would fund a cure. Interesting novel idea...going give that a think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago (3 children) It wouldnt be pushing people to veganism, considering there are plenty of animal products you could consume even if youre allergic to meat. Also there are a lot more types of meat than beef. I eat meat often and hardly ever eat any beef permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Also there are a lot more types of meat than beef. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_syndrome The alpha-gal molecule is found in all mammals except catarrhines (apes and Old World monkeys), the taxonomic branch that includes humans. Sounds like you could still eat fish, human and chicken (and other bird) meat as usual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bring on the lizard meat permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You jest, but I can assure you that alligator is delicious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Only half-jest; I've never tried reptile, but I wouldn't mind permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) That why nature gave us birdflu. So take chicken off the menu as well. That just leaves apes and ourselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's like nature is telling us to switch to a seafood and the rich only diet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Oh sweer summer child. There won't be any of that either. Not with over fishing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not, entirely correct. Alpha-gal syndrome is not a meat allergy. Gelatin, Glycerin and Magnesium stearate all contain high levels of it and are found in products as diverse as makeup, candy, shampoo, vape juice, energy drinks and toothpaste. High levels of alpha-gal are found in Milk and Milk products. All mammalian meat, organ meat, lipids and derived products. You check labels for the rest of your life if you have this and you'll probably still come into contact with it out in the wild. You get Fish, Eggs and poultry. That's only guaranteed if you buy the meat on its own, free from seasoning and cross-contamination. You don't eat in a restaurant anymore, unless it's sushi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago My wife has had to follow a low FODMAP and gluten free diet for the last 6ish years. It's miserable and I wouldn't wish such a vast allergy as this on anyone. I know there are plenty of haughty taughty vegans in this thread making jest, but these kinds of allergies fucking suck and I guarantee vegans consume shit that has these compounds without even realizing, since like you said, it exists in far more than just basic meat-based foods. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago It works against dairy, too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Almacca@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago As an act of revenge on the ticks, we will switch to insect protein. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago There are many levels between not eating beef and going full vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's certainly the strongest argument for gaia hypothesis in decades permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Oh I think that a solid theory. Maybe why we are busy killing ourselves off. Maybe Gaia knows us humans are the major problem with all the shit going on and wired us to kill ourselves off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago We’re wired to kill ourselves off. She’s just sick of us fucking up the environment with industrial farming methods. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Add in birdflu and man we could see a new era of man kind all being vegetarian. Btw I was working on a novel that contains birdflu and found a way to incorporate this into it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago So it sounds like it affects far more than just being alergic to meat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_syndrome I'm not sure I'd call that syndrome a good thing and I'm not sure I'd wish it on anyone. permalink fedilink source parent [+] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] skoberlink@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago They don't refer to it as Lyme because it's a different issue. It just happens to also be spread by ticks. Lyme disease and Alpha-gal Syndrome are different things but are sometimes comorbities since both are commonly spread by ticks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago If you bothered to read the article, you'd have known this was Alpa-gal Syndrome, not Lyme. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago lyme is caused by deer ticks and its a bacterial spirochetes, theres actually a whole cult against chronic lyme which is a pseudoscientific belief thats incurable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago (3 children) After reading the article I hope they seek out and bite Donald Trump. Wouldn't that be hilarious if this caused him a meat allergy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago He would starve from hamberder deficiency permalink fedilink source parent [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (1 child) He'd live way longer if he stopped eating McDonald's permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago Only if statins have been invented. 40 years ago he’d have been cooked, but now the cholesterol riddled assholes live for-fucking-ever permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) McDonalds would have to admit that there's actually no real fish in a filet o fish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago Unfortunately for this, the Alpha-gal allergy is only in response to mammalian proteins. Fish and birds are fine. Unless the filet o fish is secretly cat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago He would starve from hamberder deficiency permalink fedilink source parent
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (1 child) He'd live way longer if he stopped eating McDonald's permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago Only if statins have been invented. 40 years ago he’d have been cooked, but now the cholesterol riddled assholes live for-fucking-ever permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago Only if statins have been invented. 40 years ago he’d have been cooked, but now the cholesterol riddled assholes live for-fucking-ever permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) McDonalds would have to admit that there's actually no real fish in a filet o fish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago Unfortunately for this, the Alpha-gal allergy is only in response to mammalian proteins. Fish and birds are fine. Unless the filet o fish is secretly cat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago Unfortunately for this, the Alpha-gal allergy is only in response to mammalian proteins. Fish and birds are fine. Unless the filet o fish is secretly cat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tartarin@reddthat.com 21 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not only the environment, the overall Americans health too. Each year, 700 000 Americans are dying from heart diseases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) heart diseases There's more than one? Is this like Second Breakfast? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago It would be way easier to be a cardiologist if there were only one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Of course not, next thing you'll say is that there's more than one type of cancer! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Yes it is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) heart diseases There's more than one? Is this like Second Breakfast? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago It would be way easier to be a cardiologist if there were only one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Of course not, next thing you'll say is that there's more than one type of cancer! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Yes it is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago It would be way easier to be a cardiologist if there were only one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Of course not, next thing you'll say is that there's more than one type of cancer! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Yes it is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago But I'm made of meat! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) Yeah, Lyme Disease can potentially cause that. It's weird they're saying "meat allergy" and not lyme disease, but lyme is pretty bad and can cause lifelong complications (post-treatment lyme disease syndrome) Edit: guess I'm wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fishpen0@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (2 children) The lone star tick actually usually does not carry Lyme, you are thinking of deer ticks. This is an entirely different condition that is caused by an allergic reaction to the lone star ticks saliva which your body confuses with carbohydrates found in most mammalian meats leading to a long term meat allergy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (5 children) Maybe its Mother Nature way of making us stop consuming beef and all become vegan? I mean nature finds a way. The cattle industry is a huge contributor to climate change, so maybe this is a good thing. Of course if this was to affect everyone, you see how quickly the government would fund a cure. Interesting novel idea...going give that a think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago (3 children) It wouldnt be pushing people to veganism, considering there are plenty of animal products you could consume even if youre allergic to meat. Also there are a lot more types of meat than beef. I eat meat often and hardly ever eat any beef permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Also there are a lot more types of meat than beef. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_syndrome The alpha-gal molecule is found in all mammals except catarrhines (apes and Old World monkeys), the taxonomic branch that includes humans. Sounds like you could still eat fish, human and chicken (and other bird) meat as usual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bring on the lizard meat permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You jest, but I can assure you that alligator is delicious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Only half-jest; I've never tried reptile, but I wouldn't mind permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) That why nature gave us birdflu. So take chicken off the menu as well. That just leaves apes and ourselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's like nature is telling us to switch to a seafood and the rich only diet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Oh sweer summer child. There won't be any of that either. Not with over fishing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not, entirely correct. Alpha-gal syndrome is not a meat allergy. Gelatin, Glycerin and Magnesium stearate all contain high levels of it and are found in products as diverse as makeup, candy, shampoo, vape juice, energy drinks and toothpaste. High levels of alpha-gal are found in Milk and Milk products. All mammalian meat, organ meat, lipids and derived products. You check labels for the rest of your life if you have this and you'll probably still come into contact with it out in the wild. You get Fish, Eggs and poultry. That's only guaranteed if you buy the meat on its own, free from seasoning and cross-contamination. You don't eat in a restaurant anymore, unless it's sushi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago My wife has had to follow a low FODMAP and gluten free diet for the last 6ish years. It's miserable and I wouldn't wish such a vast allergy as this on anyone. I know there are plenty of haughty taughty vegans in this thread making jest, but these kinds of allergies fucking suck and I guarantee vegans consume shit that has these compounds without even realizing, since like you said, it exists in far more than just basic meat-based foods. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago It works against dairy, too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Almacca@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago As an act of revenge on the ticks, we will switch to insect protein. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago There are many levels between not eating beef and going full vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's certainly the strongest argument for gaia hypothesis in decades permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Oh I think that a solid theory. Maybe why we are busy killing ourselves off. Maybe Gaia knows us humans are the major problem with all the shit going on and wired us to kill ourselves off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago We’re wired to kill ourselves off. She’s just sick of us fucking up the environment with industrial farming methods. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Add in birdflu and man we could see a new era of man kind all being vegetarian. Btw I was working on a novel that contains birdflu and found a way to incorporate this into it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago So it sounds like it affects far more than just being alergic to meat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_syndrome I'm not sure I'd call that syndrome a good thing and I'm not sure I'd wish it on anyone. permalink fedilink source parent [+] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] skoberlink@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago They don't refer to it as Lyme because it's a different issue. It just happens to also be spread by ticks. Lyme disease and Alpha-gal Syndrome are different things but are sometimes comorbities since both are commonly spread by ticks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago If you bothered to read the article, you'd have known this was Alpa-gal Syndrome, not Lyme. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago lyme is caused by deer ticks and its a bacterial spirochetes, theres actually a whole cult against chronic lyme which is a pseudoscientific belief thats incurable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fishpen0@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (2 children) The lone star tick actually usually does not carry Lyme, you are thinking of deer ticks. This is an entirely different condition that is caused by an allergic reaction to the lone star ticks saliva which your body confuses with carbohydrates found in most mammalian meats leading to a long term meat allergy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (5 children) Maybe its Mother Nature way of making us stop consuming beef and all become vegan? I mean nature finds a way. The cattle industry is a huge contributor to climate change, so maybe this is a good thing. Of course if this was to affect everyone, you see how quickly the government would fund a cure. Interesting novel idea...going give that a think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago (3 children) It wouldnt be pushing people to veganism, considering there are plenty of animal products you could consume even if youre allergic to meat. Also there are a lot more types of meat than beef. I eat meat often and hardly ever eat any beef permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Also there are a lot more types of meat than beef. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_syndrome The alpha-gal molecule is found in all mammals except catarrhines (apes and Old World monkeys), the taxonomic branch that includes humans. Sounds like you could still eat fish, human and chicken (and other bird) meat as usual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bring on the lizard meat permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You jest, but I can assure you that alligator is delicious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Only half-jest; I've never tried reptile, but I wouldn't mind permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) That why nature gave us birdflu. So take chicken off the menu as well. That just leaves apes and ourselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's like nature is telling us to switch to a seafood and the rich only diet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Oh sweer summer child. There won't be any of that either. Not with over fishing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not, entirely correct. Alpha-gal syndrome is not a meat allergy. Gelatin, Glycerin and Magnesium stearate all contain high levels of it and are found in products as diverse as makeup, candy, shampoo, vape juice, energy drinks and toothpaste. High levels of alpha-gal are found in Milk and Milk products. All mammalian meat, organ meat, lipids and derived products. You check labels for the rest of your life if you have this and you'll probably still come into contact with it out in the wild. You get Fish, Eggs and poultry. That's only guaranteed if you buy the meat on its own, free from seasoning and cross-contamination. You don't eat in a restaurant anymore, unless it's sushi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago My wife has had to follow a low FODMAP and gluten free diet for the last 6ish years. It's miserable and I wouldn't wish such a vast allergy as this on anyone. I know there are plenty of haughty taughty vegans in this thread making jest, but these kinds of allergies fucking suck and I guarantee vegans consume shit that has these compounds without even realizing, since like you said, it exists in far more than just basic meat-based foods. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago It works against dairy, too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Almacca@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago As an act of revenge on the ticks, we will switch to insect protein. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago There are many levels between not eating beef and going full vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's certainly the strongest argument for gaia hypothesis in decades permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Oh I think that a solid theory. Maybe why we are busy killing ourselves off. Maybe Gaia knows us humans are the major problem with all the shit going on and wired us to kill ourselves off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago We’re wired to kill ourselves off. She’s just sick of us fucking up the environment with industrial farming methods. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Add in birdflu and man we could see a new era of man kind all being vegetarian. Btw I was working on a novel that contains birdflu and found a way to incorporate this into it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago So it sounds like it affects far more than just being alergic to meat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_syndrome I'm not sure I'd call that syndrome a good thing and I'm not sure I'd wish it on anyone. permalink fedilink source parent [+] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (5 children) Maybe its Mother Nature way of making us stop consuming beef and all become vegan? I mean nature finds a way. The cattle industry is a huge contributor to climate change, so maybe this is a good thing. Of course if this was to affect everyone, you see how quickly the government would fund a cure. Interesting novel idea...going give that a think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago (3 children) It wouldnt be pushing people to veganism, considering there are plenty of animal products you could consume even if youre allergic to meat. Also there are a lot more types of meat than beef. I eat meat often and hardly ever eat any beef permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Also there are a lot more types of meat than beef. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_syndrome The alpha-gal molecule is found in all mammals except catarrhines (apes and Old World monkeys), the taxonomic branch that includes humans. Sounds like you could still eat fish, human and chicken (and other bird) meat as usual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bring on the lizard meat permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You jest, but I can assure you that alligator is delicious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Only half-jest; I've never tried reptile, but I wouldn't mind permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) That why nature gave us birdflu. So take chicken off the menu as well. That just leaves apes and ourselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's like nature is telling us to switch to a seafood and the rich only diet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Oh sweer summer child. There won't be any of that either. Not with over fishing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not, entirely correct. Alpha-gal syndrome is not a meat allergy. Gelatin, Glycerin and Magnesium stearate all contain high levels of it and are found in products as diverse as makeup, candy, shampoo, vape juice, energy drinks and toothpaste. High levels of alpha-gal are found in Milk and Milk products. All mammalian meat, organ meat, lipids and derived products. You check labels for the rest of your life if you have this and you'll probably still come into contact with it out in the wild. You get Fish, Eggs and poultry. That's only guaranteed if you buy the meat on its own, free from seasoning and cross-contamination. You don't eat in a restaurant anymore, unless it's sushi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago My wife has had to follow a low FODMAP and gluten free diet for the last 6ish years. It's miserable and I wouldn't wish such a vast allergy as this on anyone. I know there are plenty of haughty taughty vegans in this thread making jest, but these kinds of allergies fucking suck and I guarantee vegans consume shit that has these compounds without even realizing, since like you said, it exists in far more than just basic meat-based foods. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago It works against dairy, too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Almacca@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago As an act of revenge on the ticks, we will switch to insect protein. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago There are many levels between not eating beef and going full vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's certainly the strongest argument for gaia hypothesis in decades permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Oh I think that a solid theory. Maybe why we are busy killing ourselves off. Maybe Gaia knows us humans are the major problem with all the shit going on and wired us to kill ourselves off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago We’re wired to kill ourselves off. She’s just sick of us fucking up the environment with industrial farming methods. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Add in birdflu and man we could see a new era of man kind all being vegetarian. Btw I was working on a novel that contains birdflu and found a way to incorporate this into it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago So it sounds like it affects far more than just being alergic to meat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_syndrome I'm not sure I'd call that syndrome a good thing and I'm not sure I'd wish it on anyone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago (3 children) It wouldnt be pushing people to veganism, considering there are plenty of animal products you could consume even if youre allergic to meat. Also there are a lot more types of meat than beef. I eat meat often and hardly ever eat any beef permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Also there are a lot more types of meat than beef. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_syndrome The alpha-gal molecule is found in all mammals except catarrhines (apes and Old World monkeys), the taxonomic branch that includes humans. Sounds like you could still eat fish, human and chicken (and other bird) meat as usual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bring on the lizard meat permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You jest, but I can assure you that alligator is delicious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Only half-jest; I've never tried reptile, but I wouldn't mind permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) That why nature gave us birdflu. So take chicken off the menu as well. That just leaves apes and ourselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's like nature is telling us to switch to a seafood and the rich only diet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Oh sweer summer child. There won't be any of that either. Not with over fishing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not, entirely correct. Alpha-gal syndrome is not a meat allergy. Gelatin, Glycerin and Magnesium stearate all contain high levels of it and are found in products as diverse as makeup, candy, shampoo, vape juice, energy drinks and toothpaste. High levels of alpha-gal are found in Milk and Milk products. All mammalian meat, organ meat, lipids and derived products. You check labels for the rest of your life if you have this and you'll probably still come into contact with it out in the wild. You get Fish, Eggs and poultry. That's only guaranteed if you buy the meat on its own, free from seasoning and cross-contamination. You don't eat in a restaurant anymore, unless it's sushi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago My wife has had to follow a low FODMAP and gluten free diet for the last 6ish years. It's miserable and I wouldn't wish such a vast allergy as this on anyone. I know there are plenty of haughty taughty vegans in this thread making jest, but these kinds of allergies fucking suck and I guarantee vegans consume shit that has these compounds without even realizing, since like you said, it exists in far more than just basic meat-based foods. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago It works against dairy, too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Also there are a lot more types of meat than beef. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_syndrome The alpha-gal molecule is found in all mammals except catarrhines (apes and Old World monkeys), the taxonomic branch that includes humans. Sounds like you could still eat fish, human and chicken (and other bird) meat as usual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bring on the lizard meat permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You jest, but I can assure you that alligator is delicious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Only half-jest; I've never tried reptile, but I wouldn't mind permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) That why nature gave us birdflu. So take chicken off the menu as well. That just leaves apes and ourselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's like nature is telling us to switch to a seafood and the rich only diet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Oh sweer summer child. There won't be any of that either. Not with over fishing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bring on the lizard meat permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You jest, but I can assure you that alligator is delicious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Only half-jest; I've never tried reptile, but I wouldn't mind permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You jest, but I can assure you that alligator is delicious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Only half-jest; I've never tried reptile, but I wouldn't mind permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Only half-jest; I've never tried reptile, but I wouldn't mind permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) That why nature gave us birdflu. So take chicken off the menu as well. That just leaves apes and ourselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's like nature is telling us to switch to a seafood and the rich only diet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Oh sweer summer child. There won't be any of that either. Not with over fishing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's like nature is telling us to switch to a seafood and the rich only diet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Oh sweer summer child. There won't be any of that either. Not with over fishing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Oh sweer summer child. There won't be any of that either. Not with over fishing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not, entirely correct. Alpha-gal syndrome is not a meat allergy. Gelatin, Glycerin and Magnesium stearate all contain high levels of it and are found in products as diverse as makeup, candy, shampoo, vape juice, energy drinks and toothpaste. High levels of alpha-gal are found in Milk and Milk products. All mammalian meat, organ meat, lipids and derived products. You check labels for the rest of your life if you have this and you'll probably still come into contact with it out in the wild. You get Fish, Eggs and poultry. That's only guaranteed if you buy the meat on its own, free from seasoning and cross-contamination. You don't eat in a restaurant anymore, unless it's sushi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago My wife has had to follow a low FODMAP and gluten free diet for the last 6ish years. It's miserable and I wouldn't wish such a vast allergy as this on anyone. I know there are plenty of haughty taughty vegans in this thread making jest, but these kinds of allergies fucking suck and I guarantee vegans consume shit that has these compounds without even realizing, since like you said, it exists in far more than just basic meat-based foods. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago My wife has had to follow a low FODMAP and gluten free diet for the last 6ish years. It's miserable and I wouldn't wish such a vast allergy as this on anyone. I know there are plenty of haughty taughty vegans in this thread making jest, but these kinds of allergies fucking suck and I guarantee vegans consume shit that has these compounds without even realizing, since like you said, it exists in far more than just basic meat-based foods. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago It works against dairy, too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago As an act of revenge on the ticks, we will switch to insect protein. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago There are many levels between not eating beef and going full vegan. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's certainly the strongest argument for gaia hypothesis in decades permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Oh I think that a solid theory. Maybe why we are busy killing ourselves off. Maybe Gaia knows us humans are the major problem with all the shit going on and wired us to kill ourselves off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago We’re wired to kill ourselves off. She’s just sick of us fucking up the environment with industrial farming methods. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Add in birdflu and man we could see a new era of man kind all being vegetarian. Btw I was working on a novel that contains birdflu and found a way to incorporate this into it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Oh I think that a solid theory. Maybe why we are busy killing ourselves off. Maybe Gaia knows us humans are the major problem with all the shit going on and wired us to kill ourselves off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago We’re wired to kill ourselves off. She’s just sick of us fucking up the environment with industrial farming methods. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago We’re wired to kill ourselves off. She’s just sick of us fucking up the environment with industrial farming methods. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Add in birdflu and man we could see a new era of man kind all being vegetarian. Btw I was working on a novel that contains birdflu and found a way to incorporate this into it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago So it sounds like it affects far more than just being alergic to meat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_syndrome I'm not sure I'd call that syndrome a good thing and I'm not sure I'd wish it on anyone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] skoberlink@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago They don't refer to it as Lyme because it's a different issue. It just happens to also be spread by ticks. Lyme disease and Alpha-gal Syndrome are different things but are sometimes comorbities since both are commonly spread by ticks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago If you bothered to read the article, you'd have known this was Alpa-gal Syndrome, not Lyme. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago lyme is caused by deer ticks and its a bacterial spirochetes, theres actually a whole cult against chronic lyme which is a pseudoscientific belief thats incurable. permalink fedilink source parent