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[–] Chozo@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) They're not arbitrary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -16 points 2 years ago (1 child) When you decide at your choosing what they are, instead of by a deterministic set of conditions, they are, by definition, arbitrary. That's what arbitrary means. It means you choose them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Here's the thing: They are chosen by a deterministic set of conditions. Just because you don't understand what those conditions are does not make the terms arbitrary. Also, that's not what "arbitrary" means, either. For somebody who seems to be so uptight about the definitions of words, you sure do invent a lot of your own definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) If I feel like eating pizza today, that desire comes from deterministic conditions. Me choosing to have pizza is still an arbitrary choice. If I had a cheeseburger instead of pizza because it's cheeseburger day, even if I want pizza, that's deterministic. You could argue that the schedule is arbitrary, and that's fair, but deciding for yourself what pronouns you are going to have used in your regard regardless of your sex is arbitrary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) You know gender and sex aren't the same thing, right? Who am I kidding, of course you know. You just don't care about the difference, because reality is meaningless to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand better than gender ideologues the difference between sex and gender, and unlike both the left and the right, I meticulously never use them interchangeably. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago Oh lawdy, we've got an enlightened centrist on our hands, don't we? permalink fedilink source parent [+] transigence@kbin.social -14 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, they are chosen by "I identify as..." and then they make their choice. That is literally arbitrary. I don't know how you have been using the word, but you could look it up in a dictionary to see how people have historically used the word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) they are chosen by "I identify as..." So you acknowledge that there are deterministic sets of conditions after all. Great, we're making progress! Also: based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system It's not random choice or personal whim. There is a reason and a system. Again, just because you lack the understanding does not mean the rest of the world is as riddled with brain worms as you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, the system is "I feel this way (today)," or "I feel that way (today)." This ends in "does free will exist," which I don't want to end up at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not how it works. Clearly you've never actually met a trans person and actually had a conversation with them and tried to understand their life, have you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* Bigots usually haven't. It's easier to spew hate when you're not standing in front of someone who will happily knock your lights out for being an asshole. permalink fedilink source parent [+] transigence@kbin.social -14 points 2 years ago* (3 children) There are a couple of "trans" people in my life. They have one sex but feel as though they are the other sex. I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit. One of them works with me and the other slices my lunchmeat at the deli. I don't press them about anything, and I don't talk about it. I actually use their preferred pronouns because I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. I think they've been lied to scummy activists all throughout their public education. Gender is made-up bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit I feel sorry for the trans people in your life. They deserve better. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. Clearly, you don't respect them. I have more trans friends than you probably have friends, and it's never once crossed my mind to question their identity. Even if you're not saying the quiet part out loud, you're sure as shit thinking bigoted thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago Do you want a trophy? Question their identity? What are you even talking about? Why would someone question someone else's identity (in that sense)? permalink fedilink source parent [–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Wow, you are a hateful piece of shit. Do you honestly think that people just decide one day to make an extreme life change, knowing that they'll endure lifelong ostracism, ridicule, and condescension from brainless bigots like you, all for attention or "ideology"? I sincerely hope you have trans kids who end up marrying black and brown communists. Hail Satan! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] transigence@kbin.social -16 points 2 years ago (1 child) When you decide at your choosing what they are, instead of by a deterministic set of conditions, they are, by definition, arbitrary. That's what arbitrary means. It means you choose them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Here's the thing: They are chosen by a deterministic set of conditions. Just because you don't understand what those conditions are does not make the terms arbitrary. Also, that's not what "arbitrary" means, either. For somebody who seems to be so uptight about the definitions of words, you sure do invent a lot of your own definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) If I feel like eating pizza today, that desire comes from deterministic conditions. Me choosing to have pizza is still an arbitrary choice. If I had a cheeseburger instead of pizza because it's cheeseburger day, even if I want pizza, that's deterministic. You could argue that the schedule is arbitrary, and that's fair, but deciding for yourself what pronouns you are going to have used in your regard regardless of your sex is arbitrary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) You know gender and sex aren't the same thing, right? Who am I kidding, of course you know. You just don't care about the difference, because reality is meaningless to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand better than gender ideologues the difference between sex and gender, and unlike both the left and the right, I meticulously never use them interchangeably. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago Oh lawdy, we've got an enlightened centrist on our hands, don't we? permalink fedilink source parent [+] transigence@kbin.social -14 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, they are chosen by "I identify as..." and then they make their choice. That is literally arbitrary. I don't know how you have been using the word, but you could look it up in a dictionary to see how people have historically used the word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) they are chosen by "I identify as..." So you acknowledge that there are deterministic sets of conditions after all. Great, we're making progress! Also: based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system It's not random choice or personal whim. There is a reason and a system. Again, just because you lack the understanding does not mean the rest of the world is as riddled with brain worms as you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, the system is "I feel this way (today)," or "I feel that way (today)." This ends in "does free will exist," which I don't want to end up at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not how it works. Clearly you've never actually met a trans person and actually had a conversation with them and tried to understand their life, have you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* Bigots usually haven't. It's easier to spew hate when you're not standing in front of someone who will happily knock your lights out for being an asshole. permalink fedilink source parent [+] transigence@kbin.social -14 points 2 years ago* (3 children) There are a couple of "trans" people in my life. They have one sex but feel as though they are the other sex. I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit. One of them works with me and the other slices my lunchmeat at the deli. I don't press them about anything, and I don't talk about it. I actually use their preferred pronouns because I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. I think they've been lied to scummy activists all throughout their public education. Gender is made-up bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit I feel sorry for the trans people in your life. They deserve better. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. Clearly, you don't respect them. I have more trans friends than you probably have friends, and it's never once crossed my mind to question their identity. Even if you're not saying the quiet part out loud, you're sure as shit thinking bigoted thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago Do you want a trophy? Question their identity? What are you even talking about? Why would someone question someone else's identity (in that sense)? permalink fedilink source parent [–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Wow, you are a hateful piece of shit. Do you honestly think that people just decide one day to make an extreme life change, knowing that they'll endure lifelong ostracism, ridicule, and condescension from brainless bigots like you, all for attention or "ideology"? I sincerely hope you have trans kids who end up marrying black and brown communists. Hail Satan! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chozo@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Here's the thing: They are chosen by a deterministic set of conditions. Just because you don't understand what those conditions are does not make the terms arbitrary. Also, that's not what "arbitrary" means, either. For somebody who seems to be so uptight about the definitions of words, you sure do invent a lot of your own definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) If I feel like eating pizza today, that desire comes from deterministic conditions. Me choosing to have pizza is still an arbitrary choice. If I had a cheeseburger instead of pizza because it's cheeseburger day, even if I want pizza, that's deterministic. You could argue that the schedule is arbitrary, and that's fair, but deciding for yourself what pronouns you are going to have used in your regard regardless of your sex is arbitrary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) You know gender and sex aren't the same thing, right? Who am I kidding, of course you know. You just don't care about the difference, because reality is meaningless to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand better than gender ideologues the difference between sex and gender, and unlike both the left and the right, I meticulously never use them interchangeably. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago Oh lawdy, we've got an enlightened centrist on our hands, don't we? permalink fedilink source parent [+] transigence@kbin.social -14 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, they are chosen by "I identify as..." and then they make their choice. That is literally arbitrary. I don't know how you have been using the word, but you could look it up in a dictionary to see how people have historically used the word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) they are chosen by "I identify as..." So you acknowledge that there are deterministic sets of conditions after all. Great, we're making progress! Also: based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system It's not random choice or personal whim. There is a reason and a system. Again, just because you lack the understanding does not mean the rest of the world is as riddled with brain worms as you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, the system is "I feel this way (today)," or "I feel that way (today)." This ends in "does free will exist," which I don't want to end up at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not how it works. Clearly you've never actually met a trans person and actually had a conversation with them and tried to understand their life, have you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* Bigots usually haven't. It's easier to spew hate when you're not standing in front of someone who will happily knock your lights out for being an asshole. permalink fedilink source parent [+] transigence@kbin.social -14 points 2 years ago* (3 children) There are a couple of "trans" people in my life. They have one sex but feel as though they are the other sex. I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit. One of them works with me and the other slices my lunchmeat at the deli. I don't press them about anything, and I don't talk about it. I actually use their preferred pronouns because I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. I think they've been lied to scummy activists all throughout their public education. Gender is made-up bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit I feel sorry for the trans people in your life. They deserve better. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. Clearly, you don't respect them. I have more trans friends than you probably have friends, and it's never once crossed my mind to question their identity. Even if you're not saying the quiet part out loud, you're sure as shit thinking bigoted thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago Do you want a trophy? Question their identity? What are you even talking about? Why would someone question someone else's identity (in that sense)? permalink fedilink source parent [–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Wow, you are a hateful piece of shit. Do you honestly think that people just decide one day to make an extreme life change, knowing that they'll endure lifelong ostracism, ridicule, and condescension from brainless bigots like you, all for attention or "ideology"? I sincerely hope you have trans kids who end up marrying black and brown communists. Hail Satan! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) If I feel like eating pizza today, that desire comes from deterministic conditions. Me choosing to have pizza is still an arbitrary choice. If I had a cheeseburger instead of pizza because it's cheeseburger day, even if I want pizza, that's deterministic. You could argue that the schedule is arbitrary, and that's fair, but deciding for yourself what pronouns you are going to have used in your regard regardless of your sex is arbitrary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) You know gender and sex aren't the same thing, right? Who am I kidding, of course you know. You just don't care about the difference, because reality is meaningless to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand better than gender ideologues the difference between sex and gender, and unlike both the left and the right, I meticulously never use them interchangeably. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago Oh lawdy, we've got an enlightened centrist on our hands, don't we? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chozo@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) You know gender and sex aren't the same thing, right? Who am I kidding, of course you know. You just don't care about the difference, because reality is meaningless to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand better than gender ideologues the difference between sex and gender, and unlike both the left and the right, I meticulously never use them interchangeably. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago Oh lawdy, we've got an enlightened centrist on our hands, don't we? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand better than gender ideologues the difference between sex and gender, and unlike both the left and the right, I meticulously never use them interchangeably. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago Oh lawdy, we've got an enlightened centrist on our hands, don't we? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chozo@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago Oh lawdy, we've got an enlightened centrist on our hands, don't we? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] transigence@kbin.social -14 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, they are chosen by "I identify as..." and then they make their choice. That is literally arbitrary. I don't know how you have been using the word, but you could look it up in a dictionary to see how people have historically used the word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) they are chosen by "I identify as..." So you acknowledge that there are deterministic sets of conditions after all. Great, we're making progress! Also: based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system It's not random choice or personal whim. There is a reason and a system. Again, just because you lack the understanding does not mean the rest of the world is as riddled with brain worms as you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, the system is "I feel this way (today)," or "I feel that way (today)." This ends in "does free will exist," which I don't want to end up at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not how it works. Clearly you've never actually met a trans person and actually had a conversation with them and tried to understand their life, have you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* Bigots usually haven't. It's easier to spew hate when you're not standing in front of someone who will happily knock your lights out for being an asshole. permalink fedilink source parent [+] transigence@kbin.social -14 points 2 years ago* (3 children) There are a couple of "trans" people in my life. They have one sex but feel as though they are the other sex. I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit. One of them works with me and the other slices my lunchmeat at the deli. I don't press them about anything, and I don't talk about it. I actually use their preferred pronouns because I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. I think they've been lied to scummy activists all throughout their public education. Gender is made-up bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit I feel sorry for the trans people in your life. They deserve better. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. Clearly, you don't respect them. I have more trans friends than you probably have friends, and it's never once crossed my mind to question their identity. Even if you're not saying the quiet part out loud, you're sure as shit thinking bigoted thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago Do you want a trophy? Question their identity? What are you even talking about? Why would someone question someone else's identity (in that sense)? permalink fedilink source parent [–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Wow, you are a hateful piece of shit. Do you honestly think that people just decide one day to make an extreme life change, knowing that they'll endure lifelong ostracism, ridicule, and condescension from brainless bigots like you, all for attention or "ideology"? I sincerely hope you have trans kids who end up marrying black and brown communists. Hail Satan! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chozo@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) they are chosen by "I identify as..." So you acknowledge that there are deterministic sets of conditions after all. Great, we're making progress! Also: based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system It's not random choice or personal whim. There is a reason and a system. Again, just because you lack the understanding does not mean the rest of the world is as riddled with brain worms as you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, the system is "I feel this way (today)," or "I feel that way (today)." This ends in "does free will exist," which I don't want to end up at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not how it works. Clearly you've never actually met a trans person and actually had a conversation with them and tried to understand their life, have you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* Bigots usually haven't. It's easier to spew hate when you're not standing in front of someone who will happily knock your lights out for being an asshole. permalink fedilink source parent [+] transigence@kbin.social -14 points 2 years ago* (3 children) There are a couple of "trans" people in my life. They have one sex but feel as though they are the other sex. I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit. One of them works with me and the other slices my lunchmeat at the deli. I don't press them about anything, and I don't talk about it. I actually use their preferred pronouns because I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. I think they've been lied to scummy activists all throughout their public education. Gender is made-up bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit I feel sorry for the trans people in your life. They deserve better. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. Clearly, you don't respect them. I have more trans friends than you probably have friends, and it's never once crossed my mind to question their identity. Even if you're not saying the quiet part out loud, you're sure as shit thinking bigoted thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago Do you want a trophy? Question their identity? What are you even talking about? Why would someone question someone else's identity (in that sense)? permalink fedilink source parent [–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Wow, you are a hateful piece of shit. Do you honestly think that people just decide one day to make an extreme life change, knowing that they'll endure lifelong ostracism, ridicule, and condescension from brainless bigots like you, all for attention or "ideology"? I sincerely hope you have trans kids who end up marrying black and brown communists. Hail Satan! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] transigence@kbin.social -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, the system is "I feel this way (today)," or "I feel that way (today)." This ends in "does free will exist," which I don't want to end up at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not how it works. Clearly you've never actually met a trans person and actually had a conversation with them and tried to understand their life, have you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* Bigots usually haven't. It's easier to spew hate when you're not standing in front of someone who will happily knock your lights out for being an asshole. permalink fedilink source parent [+] transigence@kbin.social -14 points 2 years ago* (3 children) There are a couple of "trans" people in my life. They have one sex but feel as though they are the other sex. I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit. One of them works with me and the other slices my lunchmeat at the deli. I don't press them about anything, and I don't talk about it. I actually use their preferred pronouns because I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. I think they've been lied to scummy activists all throughout their public education. Gender is made-up bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit I feel sorry for the trans people in your life. They deserve better. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. Clearly, you don't respect them. I have more trans friends than you probably have friends, and it's never once crossed my mind to question their identity. Even if you're not saying the quiet part out loud, you're sure as shit thinking bigoted thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago Do you want a trophy? Question their identity? What are you even talking about? Why would someone question someone else's identity (in that sense)? permalink fedilink source parent [–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Wow, you are a hateful piece of shit. Do you honestly think that people just decide one day to make an extreme life change, knowing that they'll endure lifelong ostracism, ridicule, and condescension from brainless bigots like you, all for attention or "ideology"? I sincerely hope you have trans kids who end up marrying black and brown communists. Hail Satan! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chozo@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not how it works. Clearly you've never actually met a trans person and actually had a conversation with them and tried to understand their life, have you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* Bigots usually haven't. It's easier to spew hate when you're not standing in front of someone who will happily knock your lights out for being an asshole. permalink fedilink source parent [+] transigence@kbin.social -14 points 2 years ago* (3 children) There are a couple of "trans" people in my life. They have one sex but feel as though they are the other sex. I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit. One of them works with me and the other slices my lunchmeat at the deli. I don't press them about anything, and I don't talk about it. I actually use their preferred pronouns because I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. I think they've been lied to scummy activists all throughout their public education. Gender is made-up bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit I feel sorry for the trans people in your life. They deserve better. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. Clearly, you don't respect them. I have more trans friends than you probably have friends, and it's never once crossed my mind to question their identity. Even if you're not saying the quiet part out loud, you're sure as shit thinking bigoted thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago Do you want a trophy? Question their identity? What are you even talking about? Why would someone question someone else's identity (in that sense)? permalink fedilink source parent [–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Wow, you are a hateful piece of shit. Do you honestly think that people just decide one day to make an extreme life change, knowing that they'll endure lifelong ostracism, ridicule, and condescension from brainless bigots like you, all for attention or "ideology"? I sincerely hope you have trans kids who end up marrying black and brown communists. Hail Satan! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* Bigots usually haven't. It's easier to spew hate when you're not standing in front of someone who will happily knock your lights out for being an asshole. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] transigence@kbin.social -14 points 2 years ago* (3 children) There are a couple of "trans" people in my life. They have one sex but feel as though they are the other sex. I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit. One of them works with me and the other slices my lunchmeat at the deli. I don't press them about anything, and I don't talk about it. I actually use their preferred pronouns because I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. I think they've been lied to scummy activists all throughout their public education. Gender is made-up bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit I feel sorry for the trans people in your life. They deserve better. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. Clearly, you don't respect them. I have more trans friends than you probably have friends, and it's never once crossed my mind to question their identity. Even if you're not saying the quiet part out loud, you're sure as shit thinking bigoted thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago Do you want a trophy? Question their identity? What are you even talking about? Why would someone question someone else's identity (in that sense)? permalink fedilink source parent [–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Wow, you are a hateful piece of shit. Do you honestly think that people just decide one day to make an extreme life change, knowing that they'll endure lifelong ostracism, ridicule, and condescension from brainless bigots like you, all for attention or "ideology"? I sincerely hope you have trans kids who end up marrying black and brown communists. Hail Satan! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chozo@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don't give a shit I feel sorry for the trans people in your life. They deserve better. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I'm not even convinced they actually feel like women. Clearly, you don't respect them. I have more trans friends than you probably have friends, and it's never once crossed my mind to question their identity. Even if you're not saying the quiet part out loud, you're sure as shit thinking bigoted thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago Do you want a trophy? Question their identity? What are you even talking about? Why would someone question someone else's identity (in that sense)? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] transigence@kbin.social -13 points 2 years ago Do you want a trophy? Question their identity? What are you even talking about? Why would someone question someone else's identity (in that sense)? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Wow, you are a hateful piece of shit. Do you honestly think that people just decide one day to make an extreme life change, knowing that they'll endure lifelong ostracism, ridicule, and condescension from brainless bigots like you, all for attention or "ideology"? I sincerely hope you have trans kids who end up marrying black and brown communists. Hail Satan! permalink fedilink source parent