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"I want my software to stay out of my way and only update when I say to" also me the moment an update releases for anything: (media.kbin.earth)
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[–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

There's probably an option in your distro to automatically install updates, but it's annoying when that happens when you're in the middle of something or if they require restarts

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    As much as I hate to praise Windows, that's why they have "update and shut down" when there are updates available.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is a thing in all KDE distros I know. Once Discover downloaded them, they will be installed on next shutdown / reboot.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Never seen it. And KDE nags me incessantly about updates.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    You can change the update notification frequency somewhere in settings. Pretty sure you can disable it too.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    The problem is not that it nags me, the problem is that it expects me to manually approve updates.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I believe there's a setting either in Discover (the KDE "app store") in the main plasma settings (somewhere in the "updates" section? That might be somewhere else, I don't remember) that will automatically install updates without you needing to approve them.

    And there's also a setting that will wait to install them until the next boot. When I had that setting on, it only added maybe 10 seconds to my startup time when I needed to apply something like a kernel update.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    yay --noconfirm && poweroff

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think you may have glossed over the "automatically" part.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Set up a cron job or systemd timer and have your computer suddenly powerdown.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Brother, I am not a programmer and do not know what any of these words mean, and am not interested in becoming one. I just want to use a computer. This is precisely why I can't use Linux.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If I recall Windows correctly, a scheduled task.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't know what that is either.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You think you can't use Linux because you can't set up something to automatically install updates? Nah, don't worry about that. You really still can. You don't need to know what a cronjob is lol. (Just some commands that run on a schedule.)

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You think you can't use Linux because you can't set up something to automatically install updates?

    No, because doing anything in Linux is DIY in the terminal. I don't have time for that. I have a job already.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    only enthusiast distros like arch are diy in any sense. you dont need the terminal for most things, what you need is to get the settings in discover set up for the thing you want it to do and if it doesn't worm reach out and get support. that guy talking about cronjobs is probably just familiar with the command line and forgot that that isn't normal.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    you dont need the terminal for most things

    No but you do need it for a lot of things.

    what you need is to get the settings in discover set up for the thing you want it to do

    There is a setting. It doesn't work.

    if it doesn't worm reach out and get support

    Do a search for "how to [literally anything] on Linux" and tell me it doesn't send you into the terminal.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    TL;DR: make bug reports and look for support in the support channels, not google.

    most often thats because it's much faster to do it in the terminal if you know how, or because the result is an old post from before graphical tools were as good as they are now.

    also, a google search is not reaching out and getting support. post/send smth in the KDE communities on here or on the matrix (Foss discord, basically) channels for KDE or your distro, or on KDE discuss. people look at those often for the express purpose of helping with this stuff. maybe go to the KDE bug reporting site and report the bug, it'll probably be resolved in the next update.

    there are graphical ways to do most of these things that work, you're just new and dont know where they are. there are people out there literally watching whenever they can to help people like you with issues like yours, you are looking in the wrong places. also, even though it can be avoided most of the time you are best off familiarizing yourself with the command line at least a little so you can troubleshoot quicker and better, just like every other operating system.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    TL;DR: make bug reports and look for support in the support channels, not google.

    No? I don't want to. I have no responsibility to. And even if I did, I'm sure this isn't the kind of discussion that's never been had before.

    most often thats because it's much faster to do it in the terminal if you know how

    I'm sure it is. I don't know how. And every time I try, I end up spending hours trying to figure it out, which is the opposite of fast. Put a button I can click and there's no need to go scowering the web looking for the exact correct combination of random characters to type in the black box.

    post/send smth in the KDE communities on here or on the matrix

    That's just takes even more time, and is often either ignored or berated for being so ignorant to ask the question in the first place or for not searching it first.

    there are graphical ways to do most of these things that work, you're just new and dont know where they are.

    There aren't. And even when there are, the support sites will send you into the terminal every time anyway.

    even though it can be avoided most of the time you are best off familiarizing yourself with the command line at least a little so you can troubleshoot quicker and better

    I don't want to do that. I don't know why it's so hard to understand that some people just want to use their PCs and not spend all their time trying to figure out how to make them do things that other computers can just figure out how to do by clicking buttons in a menu.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Then how do you know that the magic spell I gave you doesn't do it "automatically"? Either you're lying and you actually a programmer, since we know you need to be a programmer to be able to read, or you somehow figured out how to read it without being one, but that would be crazy, absolutely crazy.
    Anyway, if for some reason you need your system to decide when to update and reboot, there is an easily googlable setting for it, and if you just need to emulate window's "update and shutdown" button, I gave you it for my preferred Linux distribution, and it's not more complicated on all the other ones.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Because I know enough to know that commands don't run themselves.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well, "update and shutdown" button is a button, it also doesn't press itself. I hope you're being intentionally obtuse, at least this way someone is having fun

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago*

    No, but the updates are downloaded automatically and the button is changed from "shut down" to "update and shut down" automatically. And I don't appreciate your unwarranted insinuations.

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