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Me when people are cheering on Iran, a country that literally executes gay people (lemmy.world)
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[–] 193 points 1 year ago (8 children)

This is a "let them fight" situation

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  • [–] 106 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    I guess but it sucks for civilians caught in the crossfire. Can’t we just have a Khamenei/Bibi cage fight instead?

    And then we just don’t let the winner out of the cage.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    No uninvolved civilians huh? Where have I heard that before…

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    So what you’re telling me is if you lived in Israel you’d be pro-genocide lol. You’re using the exact same logic as a transparent fig leaf for your anger and hatred, just like many Israelis do against Palestinians.

    You can’t make blanket statements about people based on where they live or what family they were born to. They’re all different individuals with different beliefs and backgrounds. Not all Israelis support the violence, not all of them are settlers, many were born there. Some even lived there for generations. This is nonsense.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Contextually I thought you were just calling all Israelis settlers. All Israelis (and all Iranians) will be threatened by a war between their countries. But OK, if that’s not what you meant then what I said doesn’t apply. Just a weird thing to focus on since it’s unlikely Iran would specifically target settlers.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    IMO a major reason that Israel is levelling Gaza is that it's a one-sided conflict where Israelis are not getting killed. There are apparently 53 Israeli hostages right now, but more than 20,000 Gazans have been killed. There is some pressure to end the conflict, but not enough. If it were a war where Israelis were being killed too, it would end a lot quicker.

    I know the Iran / Israel conflict is a different one, but if enough Israelis stop supporting Netanyahu, both conflicts might end. Israeli civilians dying might be the only thing that will stop Netanyahu.

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Iran has the right to defend itself, as they like to say

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Another reason to hate Israel. They're making me agree with Iran.

    Ew.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago

    Maybe you should reconsider your prejudice, then. Why are you so spiteful towards the country geopolitically opposed to the genocidal entity and doing something about it? Do you treat western countries (all of them maintaining economic, diplomatic and military ties with Israel) with the same contempt?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    According to Veritasium and Game Theory (The prisoners dilemma) a retaliation is what should be done in this case

    https://youtu.be/mScpHTIi-kM

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I personally prefer the more complex setup discussed in https://ncase.me/trust/.

    The prisoners dilemma is a single decision game: you can tattle or stay silent, and as you don't know what the other does, and due to how things are set up you would prefer to tattle, even if both staying silent yields better results for both parties.

    Politics like this is more of a repeated game, like the one described in the link. You can trust one another, in spite of this single iteration Pareto optimal setting favoring betrayal, and work together. But also; show that you are not an easy mark that can be exploited.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Agreed. The the enemy of my enemy is my, uh, enemy? They both suck lol

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