▲ 411 ▼ Michigan bills would require landlords to do repairs within 48 hours or renters can withhold rent (michiganadvance.com) submitted 1 year ago by kinther@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 31 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (10 children) I think it should be like 7 days, but 2 days seems too short. permalink fedilink source hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 year ago (1 child) Depends on the action needed. Personally, I feel like for health and safety items, after 48 hours the renter should be able to call someone to do the repair on their behalf and bill the landlord any reasonable fees / withhold that money from the next month’s rent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Hell, can you even get somebody booked in that timeframe if you do? Even for emergency service? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago Yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago Every tradie has a "fuck you" price. If I can take it out of rent, that money has already been budgeted. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago Michigan has colder winters. What if your heat goes out? Two days is too long in this scenario, especially for elderly or young kids. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (1 child) If it’s heat or power or water in the dead of winter, 2 days is frankly extremely generous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago If it's power or water at any time of the year, 2 days is frankly extremely generous. permalink fedilink source parent [–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Yeah some work requiring contractors can take days to even find someone who can fit you into their schedule. 2 days seems great for critical to life things like no heat/ac, no functioning water/sewer, etc. But like, roof damage, a broken window? shit like that? Larger jobs It'll take at least a week to get a crew scheduled to even show up, and seems like an unreasonable legal burden. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago 48 hours is plenty of notice to find somebody to tarp a hole in a roof or board up a broken window. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fermion@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago A short time frame is fine because the consequences for missing it is that rent is delayed until the repair is complete, or the tenant is authorized to arrange for repairs themselves and deduct the costs from the rent. Neither of those are onerous so there doesn't need to be a long grace period. This is also specifically for safety related repairs. It's not like a tenant can withhold rent for a broken window screen or dripping faucet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eselover@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago My assumption would be they have 48hrs to book a service that takes time to fix and provide notice of scheduling. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Seven days is a long time to be homeless simply due to a landlord's neglect. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago The wording seems to be that repairs must start within 48 hours, which is reasonable. Landlords could likely successfully argue that ordering replacement parts or having a someone scheduled to come out counts as starting or commencement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Wrong, they should be on-call 24/7 to do repairs immediately. 48 hours is a generous compromise offer. permalink fedilink source parent [+] mesitoispro@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 year ago (1 child) Depends on the action needed. Personally, I feel like for health and safety items, after 48 hours the renter should be able to call someone to do the repair on their behalf and bill the landlord any reasonable fees / withhold that money from the next month’s rent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Hell, can you even get somebody booked in that timeframe if you do? Even for emergency service? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago Yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago Every tradie has a "fuck you" price. If I can take it out of rent, that money has already been budgeted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Hell, can you even get somebody booked in that timeframe if you do? Even for emergency service? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago Yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago Every tradie has a "fuck you" price. If I can take it out of rent, that money has already been budgeted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago Every tradie has a "fuck you" price. If I can take it out of rent, that money has already been budgeted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago Michigan has colder winters. What if your heat goes out? Two days is too long in this scenario, especially for elderly or young kids. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (1 child) If it’s heat or power or water in the dead of winter, 2 days is frankly extremely generous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago If it's power or water at any time of the year, 2 days is frankly extremely generous. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago If it's power or water at any time of the year, 2 days is frankly extremely generous. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Yeah some work requiring contractors can take days to even find someone who can fit you into their schedule. 2 days seems great for critical to life things like no heat/ac, no functioning water/sewer, etc. But like, roof damage, a broken window? shit like that? Larger jobs It'll take at least a week to get a crew scheduled to even show up, and seems like an unreasonable legal burden. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago 48 hours is plenty of notice to find somebody to tarp a hole in a roof or board up a broken window. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago 48 hours is plenty of notice to find somebody to tarp a hole in a roof or board up a broken window. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago A short time frame is fine because the consequences for missing it is that rent is delayed until the repair is complete, or the tenant is authorized to arrange for repairs themselves and deduct the costs from the rent. Neither of those are onerous so there doesn't need to be a long grace period. This is also specifically for safety related repairs. It's not like a tenant can withhold rent for a broken window screen or dripping faucet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eselover@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago My assumption would be they have 48hrs to book a service that takes time to fix and provide notice of scheduling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Seven days is a long time to be homeless simply due to a landlord's neglect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago The wording seems to be that repairs must start within 48 hours, which is reasonable. Landlords could likely successfully argue that ordering replacement parts or having a someone scheduled to come out counts as starting or commencement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Wrong, they should be on-call 24/7 to do repairs immediately. 48 hours is a generous compromise offer. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] mesitoispro@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent