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[–] dmonzel@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Free speech" refers to the government, not private companies.
There is some speech that has no place in the public square. Hate speech, threats, and harmful conspiracies, as examples.

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[+] glad_cat@lemmy.sdf.org -8 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

That’s the "American and legal" version of free speech. Was there no free speech before they wrote the constitution?

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[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Correct, there was not. For example, see the case of Zenger and the New York Weekly Journal.

Even today, the UK does not have the same freedom of speech as the US. For example: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/abolish-the-monarchy-protesters-king-proclamation-b2165294.html

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[+] JasSmith@kbin.social -12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

You’re confusing the U.S. Constitution with free speech. The Constitution only protects some kinds of speech, and only for American citizens. I’m not American. Most people are not American. Surely you realise there are many others countries out there, and other kinds of speech?

You say “harmful” speech has no place in the public square. Who adjudicates that? Right now it’s Elon Musk. Are you really happy with that?

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[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

What government purchased X? Surely you're mistaking that with a private entity purchasing it. No part of X is public, it is and has always been a private site with membership requirements.

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[–] dmonzel@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago*

Again, "free speech" doesn't apply to what companies allow on their platforms.

I listed examples of harmful speech.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago

The constitution is there to protect us from the government. Other laws are there to protect us from each other.

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