▲ 752 ▼ Dumb Trump supporters shoot America in the foot (infosec.pub) submitted 3 years ago by HunterBidensLapDog@infosec.pub to c/politics@lemmy.world 97 comments fedilink hide all child comments Dumb Trump supporters raise mortgage rates, reduce money for Social Security and Medicare, and Make America A Laughing Stock.
[–] snooggums@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) More complex, sure, but that is the primary reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago* (2 children) I’m not sure I agree. It’s had a huge impact on community colleges and a lot of state schools, but the issues really are varied and impact different schools/states in different ways and to different degrees. Make no mistake, the democrats are better for schools than republicans. But we can’t just blame every single thing on republicans or we sound like them calling everyone they disagree with a commie in the 2000’s/2010’s. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] samus7070@programming.dev 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) You should cite some of the other reasons rather than just saying they exist. For example administrative staffing costs have risen dramatically over the last few decades. The upper management of universities now make CEO like wages. Universities are competing on amenities more than they are academics. Nice housing and recreational complexes are the norm while full time professors are all being replaced by adjuncts who aren’t paid a living wage. The economics are broken. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago I did cite multiple pieces in my follow up comment because both of us were speaking in generalities. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Domriso@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) While correct, the real problem came when they made banks unable to refuse college loans. Suddenly, colleges could set whatever price they wanted, and the banks had to agree. That skyrocketed costs and directly led to the current situation. Of course, it really started even further back than that when we allowed education to be privately funded rather than a public good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The fact that people don't understand that more free education means a better life for everybody is really frustrating permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago We don't bat an eye at having tax-funded libraries (well the GOP is starting to...) because we have internalized as a society that they're a good thing. I have never understood why we can't do the same with schools. permalink fedilink source parent [–] snooggums@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) If Republicans didn't spend the majority of their energy on destroying anything publicly funded I would stop blaming them first for destroying everything publicly funded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Deflecting from the biggest part of the issue is why so little progress is made in solving complex issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) They'd have a lot harder time justifying massive administrative pay to a funding subcommittee than they do justifying it to a bunch of trustees who are also rich assholes and know they can charge as much as they want for tuition because everyone just gets loans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The Department of Education is audited regularly. The DoD isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago* (2 children) I’m not sure I agree. It’s had a huge impact on community colleges and a lot of state schools, but the issues really are varied and impact different schools/states in different ways and to different degrees. Make no mistake, the democrats are better for schools than republicans. But we can’t just blame every single thing on republicans or we sound like them calling everyone they disagree with a commie in the 2000’s/2010’s. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] samus7070@programming.dev 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) You should cite some of the other reasons rather than just saying they exist. For example administrative staffing costs have risen dramatically over the last few decades. The upper management of universities now make CEO like wages. Universities are competing on amenities more than they are academics. Nice housing and recreational complexes are the norm while full time professors are all being replaced by adjuncts who aren’t paid a living wage. The economics are broken. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago I did cite multiple pieces in my follow up comment because both of us were speaking in generalities. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Domriso@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) While correct, the real problem came when they made banks unable to refuse college loans. Suddenly, colleges could set whatever price they wanted, and the banks had to agree. That skyrocketed costs and directly led to the current situation. Of course, it really started even further back than that when we allowed education to be privately funded rather than a public good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The fact that people don't understand that more free education means a better life for everybody is really frustrating permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago We don't bat an eye at having tax-funded libraries (well the GOP is starting to...) because we have internalized as a society that they're a good thing. I have never understood why we can't do the same with schools. permalink fedilink source parent [–] snooggums@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) If Republicans didn't spend the majority of their energy on destroying anything publicly funded I would stop blaming them first for destroying everything publicly funded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Deflecting from the biggest part of the issue is why so little progress is made in solving complex issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) They'd have a lot harder time justifying massive administrative pay to a funding subcommittee than they do justifying it to a bunch of trustees who are also rich assholes and know they can charge as much as they want for tuition because everyone just gets loans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The Department of Education is audited regularly. The DoD isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] samus7070@programming.dev 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) You should cite some of the other reasons rather than just saying they exist. For example administrative staffing costs have risen dramatically over the last few decades. The upper management of universities now make CEO like wages. Universities are competing on amenities more than they are academics. Nice housing and recreational complexes are the norm while full time professors are all being replaced by adjuncts who aren’t paid a living wage. The economics are broken. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago I did cite multiple pieces in my follow up comment because both of us were speaking in generalities. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Domriso@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) While correct, the real problem came when they made banks unable to refuse college loans. Suddenly, colleges could set whatever price they wanted, and the banks had to agree. That skyrocketed costs and directly led to the current situation. Of course, it really started even further back than that when we allowed education to be privately funded rather than a public good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The fact that people don't understand that more free education means a better life for everybody is really frustrating permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago We don't bat an eye at having tax-funded libraries (well the GOP is starting to...) because we have internalized as a society that they're a good thing. I have never understood why we can't do the same with schools. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago I did cite multiple pieces in my follow up comment because both of us were speaking in generalities. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Domriso@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) While correct, the real problem came when they made banks unable to refuse college loans. Suddenly, colleges could set whatever price they wanted, and the banks had to agree. That skyrocketed costs and directly led to the current situation. Of course, it really started even further back than that when we allowed education to be privately funded rather than a public good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The fact that people don't understand that more free education means a better life for everybody is really frustrating permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago We don't bat an eye at having tax-funded libraries (well the GOP is starting to...) because we have internalized as a society that they're a good thing. I have never understood why we can't do the same with schools. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The fact that people don't understand that more free education means a better life for everybody is really frustrating permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago We don't bat an eye at having tax-funded libraries (well the GOP is starting to...) because we have internalized as a society that they're a good thing. I have never understood why we can't do the same with schools. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago We don't bat an eye at having tax-funded libraries (well the GOP is starting to...) because we have internalized as a society that they're a good thing. I have never understood why we can't do the same with schools. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snooggums@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) If Republicans didn't spend the majority of their energy on destroying anything publicly funded I would stop blaming them first for destroying everything publicly funded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Deflecting from the biggest part of the issue is why so little progress is made in solving complex issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) They'd have a lot harder time justifying massive administrative pay to a funding subcommittee than they do justifying it to a bunch of trustees who are also rich assholes and know they can charge as much as they want for tuition because everyone just gets loans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The Department of Education is audited regularly. The DoD isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Deflecting from the biggest part of the issue is why so little progress is made in solving complex issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) They'd have a lot harder time justifying massive administrative pay to a funding subcommittee than they do justifying it to a bunch of trustees who are also rich assholes and know they can charge as much as they want for tuition because everyone just gets loans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The Department of Education is audited regularly. The DoD isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Deflecting from the biggest part of the issue is why so little progress is made in solving complex issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) They'd have a lot harder time justifying massive administrative pay to a funding subcommittee than they do justifying it to a bunch of trustees who are also rich assholes and know they can charge as much as they want for tuition because everyone just gets loans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The Department of Education is audited regularly. The DoD isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The Department of Education is audited regularly. The DoD isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The Department of Education is audited regularly. The DoD isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent