▲ 1551 ▼ The Los Angeles Police Department shot an Australian reporter with a rubber bullet while she was live on TV. Zero provocation. (video.twimg.com) submitted 1 year ago* by destructdisc@lemmy.world to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world 241 comments fedilink hide all child comments The pig sees her, turns, aims, and shoots her almost point blank.
[+] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (1 child) A large part of that working class is fully captive to the corporate media narratives, and voted for Trump last November. They support this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emmy67@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) They less support this, than the lies they were fed. His disapproval polling is clear on that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) And yet, zero self-awareness to try to connect the actions to the outcome. If those same lies were fed to them in the exact same way, they will continue to do the same stupid thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emmy67@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) If they're too busy worrying about where the next meal is coming from, can you blame them? I mean you can but surely that removes some of the blame permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It does not. They are poor as shit because of who they vote for. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emmy67@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Not really, the kind of people you're talking about have been poor for at least a generation permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago i hate how vague the term violence is, as it can mean so much as to make it useless. protesting is a form of violence, it is meant to hurt the status quo. if the protests blocks a road or impedes trade and therefore there's some economical violence in there too. but there's also violence in an unfair system that creates those protests. people are protesting ICE kidnapping and disappearing people with support of the state. that is a much worse violence than that being used in the protest. and the "violent" police response, was violent, because he literally shot a reporter. because the term is so vague, anti violence as a moral stance is meaningless. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Triasha@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Americans are packing more heat than the French. We won't ever organize to shut down the country, but there will be more executions and attempted murders like the United Health CEO. As people fall into despair most will rot away silently, but a minority will decide to take somebody with them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) america may have tons of guns, but when what's probably the majority of them are owned by people who seemingly approve of what's happening, will there ever be the necessary large scale resistance? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IDrawPoorly@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children) I mean guns guns guns people talk about but IEDs won Iraq and can be made IN A CAVE WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes, if Americans rise up, I think it'll look a lot more like The Troubles than the first American Civil War. For one, because there aren't clear, geographical divisions this time, and indeed, I would guess that guerilla tactics are going to be more effective than guns against a military with overwhelming conventional warfare capabilities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Absolutely. The US military was tiny at the outbreak of the civil war, and a whole lot of the veterans of the Mexican American war were fighting for the South. If violence escalates, and I think it might, it will look much more like the troubles than the American Civil war. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Triasha@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I wouldn't be surprised to find more of those in use in the US I. The coming years. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago For what I and probably you want to happen? Almost certainly not. For something to happen? I figure yes. I will be doing what I can to shape the future with peaceful protest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) How about we organize instead? Make it a goal to go to the protest this weekend, meet one person whose sign you like, get their contact details and agree to meet up at the next protest. It’s that easy to get the ball rolling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Protest would be more effective to effect change, and I will be doing my part in my city. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago and mostly targeting blue counties too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (1 child) A large part of that working class is fully captive to the corporate media narratives, and voted for Trump last November. They support this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emmy67@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) They less support this, than the lies they were fed. His disapproval polling is clear on that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) And yet, zero self-awareness to try to connect the actions to the outcome. If those same lies were fed to them in the exact same way, they will continue to do the same stupid thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emmy67@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) If they're too busy worrying about where the next meal is coming from, can you blame them? I mean you can but surely that removes some of the blame permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It does not. They are poor as shit because of who they vote for. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emmy67@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Not really, the kind of people you're talking about have been poor for at least a generation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] emmy67@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) They less support this, than the lies they were fed. His disapproval polling is clear on that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) And yet, zero self-awareness to try to connect the actions to the outcome. If those same lies were fed to them in the exact same way, they will continue to do the same stupid thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emmy67@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) If they're too busy worrying about where the next meal is coming from, can you blame them? I mean you can but surely that removes some of the blame permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It does not. They are poor as shit because of who they vote for. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emmy67@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Not really, the kind of people you're talking about have been poor for at least a generation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) And yet, zero self-awareness to try to connect the actions to the outcome. If those same lies were fed to them in the exact same way, they will continue to do the same stupid thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emmy67@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) If they're too busy worrying about where the next meal is coming from, can you blame them? I mean you can but surely that removes some of the blame permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It does not. They are poor as shit because of who they vote for. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emmy67@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Not really, the kind of people you're talking about have been poor for at least a generation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] emmy67@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) If they're too busy worrying about where the next meal is coming from, can you blame them? I mean you can but surely that removes some of the blame permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It does not. They are poor as shit because of who they vote for. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emmy67@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Not really, the kind of people you're talking about have been poor for at least a generation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It does not. They are poor as shit because of who they vote for. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emmy67@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Not really, the kind of people you're talking about have been poor for at least a generation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] emmy67@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Not really, the kind of people you're talking about have been poor for at least a generation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago i hate how vague the term violence is, as it can mean so much as to make it useless. protesting is a form of violence, it is meant to hurt the status quo. if the protests blocks a road or impedes trade and therefore there's some economical violence in there too. but there's also violence in an unfair system that creates those protests. people are protesting ICE kidnapping and disappearing people with support of the state. that is a much worse violence than that being used in the protest. and the "violent" police response, was violent, because he literally shot a reporter. because the term is so vague, anti violence as a moral stance is meaningless. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Americans are packing more heat than the French. We won't ever organize to shut down the country, but there will be more executions and attempted murders like the United Health CEO. As people fall into despair most will rot away silently, but a minority will decide to take somebody with them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) america may have tons of guns, but when what's probably the majority of them are owned by people who seemingly approve of what's happening, will there ever be the necessary large scale resistance? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IDrawPoorly@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children) I mean guns guns guns people talk about but IEDs won Iraq and can be made IN A CAVE WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes, if Americans rise up, I think it'll look a lot more like The Troubles than the first American Civil War. For one, because there aren't clear, geographical divisions this time, and indeed, I would guess that guerilla tactics are going to be more effective than guns against a military with overwhelming conventional warfare capabilities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Absolutely. The US military was tiny at the outbreak of the civil war, and a whole lot of the veterans of the Mexican American war were fighting for the South. If violence escalates, and I think it might, it will look much more like the troubles than the American Civil war. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Triasha@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I wouldn't be surprised to find more of those in use in the US I. The coming years. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago For what I and probably you want to happen? Almost certainly not. For something to happen? I figure yes. I will be doing what I can to shape the future with peaceful protest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) How about we organize instead? Make it a goal to go to the protest this weekend, meet one person whose sign you like, get their contact details and agree to meet up at the next protest. It’s that easy to get the ball rolling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Protest would be more effective to effect change, and I will be doing my part in my city. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) america may have tons of guns, but when what's probably the majority of them are owned by people who seemingly approve of what's happening, will there ever be the necessary large scale resistance? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IDrawPoorly@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children) I mean guns guns guns people talk about but IEDs won Iraq and can be made IN A CAVE WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes, if Americans rise up, I think it'll look a lot more like The Troubles than the first American Civil War. For one, because there aren't clear, geographical divisions this time, and indeed, I would guess that guerilla tactics are going to be more effective than guns against a military with overwhelming conventional warfare capabilities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Absolutely. The US military was tiny at the outbreak of the civil war, and a whole lot of the veterans of the Mexican American war were fighting for the South. If violence escalates, and I think it might, it will look much more like the troubles than the American Civil war. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Triasha@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I wouldn't be surprised to find more of those in use in the US I. The coming years. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago For what I and probably you want to happen? Almost certainly not. For something to happen? I figure yes. I will be doing what I can to shape the future with peaceful protest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IDrawPoorly@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children) I mean guns guns guns people talk about but IEDs won Iraq and can be made IN A CAVE WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes, if Americans rise up, I think it'll look a lot more like The Troubles than the first American Civil War. For one, because there aren't clear, geographical divisions this time, and indeed, I would guess that guerilla tactics are going to be more effective than guns against a military with overwhelming conventional warfare capabilities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Absolutely. The US military was tiny at the outbreak of the civil war, and a whole lot of the veterans of the Mexican American war were fighting for the South. If violence escalates, and I think it might, it will look much more like the troubles than the American Civil war. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Triasha@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I wouldn't be surprised to find more of those in use in the US I. The coming years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes, if Americans rise up, I think it'll look a lot more like The Troubles than the first American Civil War. For one, because there aren't clear, geographical divisions this time, and indeed, I would guess that guerilla tactics are going to be more effective than guns against a military with overwhelming conventional warfare capabilities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Absolutely. The US military was tiny at the outbreak of the civil war, and a whole lot of the veterans of the Mexican American war were fighting for the South. If violence escalates, and I think it might, it will look much more like the troubles than the American Civil war. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Absolutely. The US military was tiny at the outbreak of the civil war, and a whole lot of the veterans of the Mexican American war were fighting for the South. If violence escalates, and I think it might, it will look much more like the troubles than the American Civil war. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I wouldn't be surprised to find more of those in use in the US I. The coming years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago For what I and probably you want to happen? Almost certainly not. For something to happen? I figure yes. I will be doing what I can to shape the future with peaceful protest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) How about we organize instead? Make it a goal to go to the protest this weekend, meet one person whose sign you like, get their contact details and agree to meet up at the next protest. It’s that easy to get the ball rolling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Protest would be more effective to effect change, and I will be doing my part in my city. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Protest would be more effective to effect change, and I will be doing my part in my city. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago and mostly targeting blue counties too. permalink fedilink source parent