▲ 282 ▼ Plex will be blocking access from at least one VPS provider (imgur.com) submitted 2 years ago* by briongloid@aussie.zone to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world 164 comments fedilink hide all child comments Appears to be Hetzner for now, wouldn't be surprised if all VPS get affected eventually.
[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've switched few years ago and didn't look back . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] droans@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I installed Jellyfin on my server but the Android TV app is just so awful. It honestly feels like a webpage from 2005 with all the blocky elements, terrible scrolling, and no way to sort. If you want to go to, say, Workaholics, you have to scroll through your entire library until you get there. There's no option to go straight to W. And, don't worry, the scrolling is very slow the whole time! The search seems to work maybe 10% of the time. I've typed in the name of a movie and it wouldn't find it, but it did find episodes of shows that kinda match. I've typed in names of TV shows and it's found nothing. Both times, the movies and shows existed in my library. If they can make it look and work better, I'd be happy to switch to it fully. All I'd need then is a way to pull the XMLTV file from Plex so I can record, too. The Plex app for the Shield has a lot of bugs itself, though. I connected my Shield to a smart plug because it froze the system often enough that I needed to automate a way to restart it. Unfortunately I'd rather put up with that than the Jellyfin UI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Hmm never had a problem with Jellyfin on the shield pro or cigar one. On the cigar one Netflix always stops showing video and just the loading screen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) I'm curious, just checked out their site. I'm a little alarmed at needing to modify SSL and port forward and all that shit. My experiences haven't been great with port forwarding in the past. In short jelly fin doesn't seem as easy as you are all making it out to be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's only if you want to watch it outside your home network, and either way I would recommend not just opening a port to the world like that. I'd say to use Tailscale (which is trivially easy to install) for remote viewing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I will check into this Trailscale. Thanks! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) In short jelly fin doesn’t seem as easy as you are all making it out to be. It does definitely require a bit more work, especially because Plex does things like authentication and network access for you, but that's exactly why all of this drama got kicked up in the first place. Plex doesn't want to get into legal troubles, however unlikely that may be, for providing access to whatever content people are hosting. It isn't true self-hosting. True self-hosting requires work and a small amount of technical knowledge, but IMHO it's worth it for the freedom, privacy, and control. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yes you're totally correct, I'll have to do some more reading. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You have to port forward for Plex as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) No I believe upnp took care of that in some form, Plex sets it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Jellyfin also supports UPnP, but you really shouldn't be exposing the raw ports to the public anyways. Ideally, you'd setup Jellyfin and a reverse proxy like SWAG that handles the SSL stuff for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Thanks, I just realized what community I was in lol. Stumbled in here from the everything tab, so now I understand the technical stuff! I'll stick around here a while you'll have me! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Haha, welcome! Always good to have new people come in and potentially start their self-hosting journey. It can be quite fun if you have the time and interest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Welcome! Consider a VPN if you need remote access, unless you plan to share it publicly with a lot of people. It's a bit more work, but safer than directly exposing your PC to the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks! I actually already have a PIA subscription that I use frequently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago In this case, it would be a VPN hosted on your home server/router or a VPS. A commercial VPN wouldn't help you here, although you can use it in combination. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* That's still port forwarding. It's just automated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) A well-configured network that follows security best practices should always have UPnP disabled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well, not sure if I have that then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] droans@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I installed Jellyfin on my server but the Android TV app is just so awful. It honestly feels like a webpage from 2005 with all the blocky elements, terrible scrolling, and no way to sort. If you want to go to, say, Workaholics, you have to scroll through your entire library until you get there. There's no option to go straight to W. And, don't worry, the scrolling is very slow the whole time! The search seems to work maybe 10% of the time. I've typed in the name of a movie and it wouldn't find it, but it did find episodes of shows that kinda match. I've typed in names of TV shows and it's found nothing. Both times, the movies and shows existed in my library. If they can make it look and work better, I'd be happy to switch to it fully. All I'd need then is a way to pull the XMLTV file from Plex so I can record, too. The Plex app for the Shield has a lot of bugs itself, though. I connected my Shield to a smart plug because it froze the system often enough that I needed to automate a way to restart it. Unfortunately I'd rather put up with that than the Jellyfin UI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Hmm never had a problem with Jellyfin on the shield pro or cigar one. On the cigar one Netflix always stops showing video and just the loading screen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Hmm never had a problem with Jellyfin on the shield pro or cigar one. On the cigar one Netflix always stops showing video and just the loading screen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) I'm curious, just checked out their site. I'm a little alarmed at needing to modify SSL and port forward and all that shit. My experiences haven't been great with port forwarding in the past. In short jelly fin doesn't seem as easy as you are all making it out to be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's only if you want to watch it outside your home network, and either way I would recommend not just opening a port to the world like that. I'd say to use Tailscale (which is trivially easy to install) for remote viewing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I will check into this Trailscale. Thanks! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) In short jelly fin doesn’t seem as easy as you are all making it out to be. It does definitely require a bit more work, especially because Plex does things like authentication and network access for you, but that's exactly why all of this drama got kicked up in the first place. Plex doesn't want to get into legal troubles, however unlikely that may be, for providing access to whatever content people are hosting. It isn't true self-hosting. True self-hosting requires work and a small amount of technical knowledge, but IMHO it's worth it for the freedom, privacy, and control. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yes you're totally correct, I'll have to do some more reading. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You have to port forward for Plex as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) No I believe upnp took care of that in some form, Plex sets it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Jellyfin also supports UPnP, but you really shouldn't be exposing the raw ports to the public anyways. Ideally, you'd setup Jellyfin and a reverse proxy like SWAG that handles the SSL stuff for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Thanks, I just realized what community I was in lol. Stumbled in here from the everything tab, so now I understand the technical stuff! I'll stick around here a while you'll have me! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Haha, welcome! Always good to have new people come in and potentially start their self-hosting journey. It can be quite fun if you have the time and interest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Welcome! Consider a VPN if you need remote access, unless you plan to share it publicly with a lot of people. It's a bit more work, but safer than directly exposing your PC to the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks! I actually already have a PIA subscription that I use frequently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago In this case, it would be a VPN hosted on your home server/router or a VPS. A commercial VPN wouldn't help you here, although you can use it in combination. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* That's still port forwarding. It's just automated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) A well-configured network that follows security best practices should always have UPnP disabled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well, not sure if I have that then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's only if you want to watch it outside your home network, and either way I would recommend not just opening a port to the world like that. I'd say to use Tailscale (which is trivially easy to install) for remote viewing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I will check into this Trailscale. Thanks! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I will check into this Trailscale. Thanks! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) In short jelly fin doesn’t seem as easy as you are all making it out to be. It does definitely require a bit more work, especially because Plex does things like authentication and network access for you, but that's exactly why all of this drama got kicked up in the first place. Plex doesn't want to get into legal troubles, however unlikely that may be, for providing access to whatever content people are hosting. It isn't true self-hosting. True self-hosting requires work and a small amount of technical knowledge, but IMHO it's worth it for the freedom, privacy, and control. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yes you're totally correct, I'll have to do some more reading. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yes you're totally correct, I'll have to do some more reading. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You have to port forward for Plex as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) No I believe upnp took care of that in some form, Plex sets it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Jellyfin also supports UPnP, but you really shouldn't be exposing the raw ports to the public anyways. Ideally, you'd setup Jellyfin and a reverse proxy like SWAG that handles the SSL stuff for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Thanks, I just realized what community I was in lol. Stumbled in here from the everything tab, so now I understand the technical stuff! I'll stick around here a while you'll have me! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Haha, welcome! Always good to have new people come in and potentially start their self-hosting journey. It can be quite fun if you have the time and interest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Welcome! Consider a VPN if you need remote access, unless you plan to share it publicly with a lot of people. It's a bit more work, but safer than directly exposing your PC to the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks! I actually already have a PIA subscription that I use frequently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago In this case, it would be a VPN hosted on your home server/router or a VPS. A commercial VPN wouldn't help you here, although you can use it in combination. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* That's still port forwarding. It's just automated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) A well-configured network that follows security best practices should always have UPnP disabled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well, not sure if I have that then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) No I believe upnp took care of that in some form, Plex sets it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Jellyfin also supports UPnP, but you really shouldn't be exposing the raw ports to the public anyways. Ideally, you'd setup Jellyfin and a reverse proxy like SWAG that handles the SSL stuff for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Thanks, I just realized what community I was in lol. Stumbled in here from the everything tab, so now I understand the technical stuff! I'll stick around here a while you'll have me! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Haha, welcome! Always good to have new people come in and potentially start their self-hosting journey. It can be quite fun if you have the time and interest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Welcome! Consider a VPN if you need remote access, unless you plan to share it publicly with a lot of people. It's a bit more work, but safer than directly exposing your PC to the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks! I actually already have a PIA subscription that I use frequently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago In this case, it would be a VPN hosted on your home server/router or a VPS. A commercial VPN wouldn't help you here, although you can use it in combination. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* That's still port forwarding. It's just automated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) A well-configured network that follows security best practices should always have UPnP disabled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well, not sure if I have that then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Jellyfin also supports UPnP, but you really shouldn't be exposing the raw ports to the public anyways. Ideally, you'd setup Jellyfin and a reverse proxy like SWAG that handles the SSL stuff for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Thanks, I just realized what community I was in lol. Stumbled in here from the everything tab, so now I understand the technical stuff! I'll stick around here a while you'll have me! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Haha, welcome! Always good to have new people come in and potentially start their self-hosting journey. It can be quite fun if you have the time and interest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Welcome! Consider a VPN if you need remote access, unless you plan to share it publicly with a lot of people. It's a bit more work, but safer than directly exposing your PC to the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks! I actually already have a PIA subscription that I use frequently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago In this case, it would be a VPN hosted on your home server/router or a VPS. A commercial VPN wouldn't help you here, although you can use it in combination. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Thanks, I just realized what community I was in lol. Stumbled in here from the everything tab, so now I understand the technical stuff! I'll stick around here a while you'll have me! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Haha, welcome! Always good to have new people come in and potentially start their self-hosting journey. It can be quite fun if you have the time and interest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Welcome! Consider a VPN if you need remote access, unless you plan to share it publicly with a lot of people. It's a bit more work, but safer than directly exposing your PC to the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks! I actually already have a PIA subscription that I use frequently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago In this case, it would be a VPN hosted on your home server/router or a VPS. A commercial VPN wouldn't help you here, although you can use it in combination. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Haha, welcome! Always good to have new people come in and potentially start their self-hosting journey. It can be quite fun if you have the time and interest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Welcome! Consider a VPN if you need remote access, unless you plan to share it publicly with a lot of people. It's a bit more work, but safer than directly exposing your PC to the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks! I actually already have a PIA subscription that I use frequently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago In this case, it would be a VPN hosted on your home server/router or a VPS. A commercial VPN wouldn't help you here, although you can use it in combination. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks! I actually already have a PIA subscription that I use frequently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago In this case, it would be a VPN hosted on your home server/router or a VPS. A commercial VPN wouldn't help you here, although you can use it in combination. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago In this case, it would be a VPN hosted on your home server/router or a VPS. A commercial VPN wouldn't help you here, although you can use it in combination. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* That's still port forwarding. It's just automated. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) A well-configured network that follows security best practices should always have UPnP disabled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well, not sure if I have that then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well, not sure if I have that then. permalink fedilink source parent