▲ 717 ▼ Liberal Death Cult (lemmy.dbzer0.com) submitted 1 year ago by db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [M] to c/flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 676 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Man you love the sound of your voice. Lol! Do you liberals ever stop projecting? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Not a liberal. But it's to be expected that the most productive dialog we can get out of someone like you is regurgitation of more labels and thought terminating cliches. The void of inaction you have to offer the world is more empty phrases and faux anger. Keep at it. Things will change for better with or without you. The universe keeps moving on regardless of how much you choose to participate in it. You can contribute to building something or just sit here behind a keyboard sniffing your farts. You only get one life to live. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not a liberal. If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, walks like a duck... and all that. You're a liberal. most productive dialog You offer nothing except business as usual, liberal. And you can't stand it when actual leftists tell you to shove it where the sun don't shine. Blah, blah,blah... Don't be angry at me, liberal. Your ideology were unmasked a long, long time ago - as far back as Malcolm X, in fact: "The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative." - Malcolm X Don't be angry at me because you are that which you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) All you can contribute is name calling people liberals just for daring to ask the left to become more politically effective Thats all I asked for. I want the goal of the left to become reality. That's it. In order to do that, we have to be politically effective. If you have another strategy I'm all ears. What do you want? The revolution? Let's go, man. I'm right behind you! Let's do this. How do you want to get any of the lefts goals accomplished? Give me a roadmap. Anything. I'm 39. I've heard you guys yap about liberalism and fascism for over a dozen years and nothing, I mean nothing in terms of practical accomplishments. So give it to me, man. I'm all ears. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You have done nothing here except that which liberals have always done... attempting to co-opt leftists into helping you protect your precious status quo. And you're getting pretty darn desperate about it, too. Does it perhaps have anything to do with the fact that your precious liberal order was caught with it's hand in the genocide cookie jar and is now sinking faster than the Titanic, perhaps? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I notice you never answer or engage with anythitg I write. Why don't you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Oh, you noticed that I only spend the bare minimum of my energy on liberals, eh? Sure took you long enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) The only thing you've contributed to this entire conversation is calling me a liberal. Nothing about strategy, solutions, concrete lines of actions, or plans. You do the same thing to other users as well. I don't think you have any answers. How is one to have a conversation with someone who has nothing to contribute? Are you here only to troll? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) concrete lines of actions, or plans. And why would I discuss any of this with an enemy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Does anyone that question your methodology earn that title? How ought we to engage with you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) How ought we to engage with you? That's easy. Piss off. And take your liberal death cult with you - just like OP suggests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Interesting. More name calling. So before we can discuss how to actualize anything concrete for the left we have to prove ourselves not liberals. We can't have a conversation until the liberal label has been extirpated. I'm ready. How do we do that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol! Remember when I told you how you liberals really don't ever stand for anything? And now suddenly you do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I don't know what that means. All I learned from you is that to even begin to have a conversation I have to first testify under oath and somehow establish I'm not a liberal. I don't know what you want. Every question I pose is only met with another snide remark. But imma keep going because this is so bizzarre and fascinating. Once again, what ought I do to establish I'm not a liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) what ought I do to establish I’m not a liberal? So you are interested in making your attempts to co-opt and hijack leftist spaces to protect your precious liberal status quo less obvious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You've made it impossible to falsify your claim even after I've asked you for your terms. All roads seem to lead to Rome in some way with you. I say I'm not a liberal you say I'm a liberal I say how can I prove I'm not a liberal you say I'm pretending to be a liberal to co-opt leftist spaces (who knows to what end though) I will stop participating in liberal democracy. I will stop voting for any of the candidates because they all contribute to the status quo. Please. Tell me: what ought we do? Do you have a road map or an effective strategy to achieve anything? I'd really like to know if there's a better way. Thanks! <3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You’ve made it impossible to falsify I've done nothing of the sort. You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like - you don't need me to hold your hand through it... after all, you became a liberal without my help, did you not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Not a liberal. But it's to be expected that the most productive dialog we can get out of someone like you is regurgitation of more labels and thought terminating cliches. The void of inaction you have to offer the world is more empty phrases and faux anger. Keep at it. Things will change for better with or without you. The universe keeps moving on regardless of how much you choose to participate in it. You can contribute to building something or just sit here behind a keyboard sniffing your farts. You only get one life to live. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not a liberal. If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, walks like a duck... and all that. You're a liberal. most productive dialog You offer nothing except business as usual, liberal. And you can't stand it when actual leftists tell you to shove it where the sun don't shine. Blah, blah,blah... Don't be angry at me, liberal. Your ideology were unmasked a long, long time ago - as far back as Malcolm X, in fact: "The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative." - Malcolm X Don't be angry at me because you are that which you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) All you can contribute is name calling people liberals just for daring to ask the left to become more politically effective Thats all I asked for. I want the goal of the left to become reality. That's it. In order to do that, we have to be politically effective. If you have another strategy I'm all ears. What do you want? The revolution? Let's go, man. I'm right behind you! Let's do this. How do you want to get any of the lefts goals accomplished? Give me a roadmap. Anything. I'm 39. I've heard you guys yap about liberalism and fascism for over a dozen years and nothing, I mean nothing in terms of practical accomplishments. So give it to me, man. I'm all ears. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You have done nothing here except that which liberals have always done... attempting to co-opt leftists into helping you protect your precious status quo. And you're getting pretty darn desperate about it, too. Does it perhaps have anything to do with the fact that your precious liberal order was caught with it's hand in the genocide cookie jar and is now sinking faster than the Titanic, perhaps? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I notice you never answer or engage with anythitg I write. Why don't you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Oh, you noticed that I only spend the bare minimum of my energy on liberals, eh? Sure took you long enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) The only thing you've contributed to this entire conversation is calling me a liberal. Nothing about strategy, solutions, concrete lines of actions, or plans. You do the same thing to other users as well. I don't think you have any answers. How is one to have a conversation with someone who has nothing to contribute? Are you here only to troll? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) concrete lines of actions, or plans. And why would I discuss any of this with an enemy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Does anyone that question your methodology earn that title? How ought we to engage with you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) How ought we to engage with you? That's easy. Piss off. And take your liberal death cult with you - just like OP suggests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Interesting. More name calling. So before we can discuss how to actualize anything concrete for the left we have to prove ourselves not liberals. We can't have a conversation until the liberal label has been extirpated. I'm ready. How do we do that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol! Remember when I told you how you liberals really don't ever stand for anything? And now suddenly you do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I don't know what that means. All I learned from you is that to even begin to have a conversation I have to first testify under oath and somehow establish I'm not a liberal. I don't know what you want. Every question I pose is only met with another snide remark. But imma keep going because this is so bizzarre and fascinating. Once again, what ought I do to establish I'm not a liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) what ought I do to establish I’m not a liberal? So you are interested in making your attempts to co-opt and hijack leftist spaces to protect your precious liberal status quo less obvious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You've made it impossible to falsify your claim even after I've asked you for your terms. All roads seem to lead to Rome in some way with you. I say I'm not a liberal you say I'm a liberal I say how can I prove I'm not a liberal you say I'm pretending to be a liberal to co-opt leftist spaces (who knows to what end though) I will stop participating in liberal democracy. I will stop voting for any of the candidates because they all contribute to the status quo. Please. Tell me: what ought we do? Do you have a road map or an effective strategy to achieve anything? I'd really like to know if there's a better way. Thanks! <3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You’ve made it impossible to falsify I've done nothing of the sort. You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like - you don't need me to hold your hand through it... after all, you became a liberal without my help, did you not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not a liberal. If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, walks like a duck... and all that. You're a liberal. most productive dialog You offer nothing except business as usual, liberal. And you can't stand it when actual leftists tell you to shove it where the sun don't shine. Blah, blah,blah... Don't be angry at me, liberal. Your ideology were unmasked a long, long time ago - as far back as Malcolm X, in fact: "The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative." - Malcolm X Don't be angry at me because you are that which you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) All you can contribute is name calling people liberals just for daring to ask the left to become more politically effective Thats all I asked for. I want the goal of the left to become reality. That's it. In order to do that, we have to be politically effective. If you have another strategy I'm all ears. What do you want? The revolution? Let's go, man. I'm right behind you! Let's do this. How do you want to get any of the lefts goals accomplished? Give me a roadmap. Anything. I'm 39. I've heard you guys yap about liberalism and fascism for over a dozen years and nothing, I mean nothing in terms of practical accomplishments. So give it to me, man. I'm all ears. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You have done nothing here except that which liberals have always done... attempting to co-opt leftists into helping you protect your precious status quo. And you're getting pretty darn desperate about it, too. Does it perhaps have anything to do with the fact that your precious liberal order was caught with it's hand in the genocide cookie jar and is now sinking faster than the Titanic, perhaps? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I notice you never answer or engage with anythitg I write. Why don't you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Oh, you noticed that I only spend the bare minimum of my energy on liberals, eh? Sure took you long enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) The only thing you've contributed to this entire conversation is calling me a liberal. Nothing about strategy, solutions, concrete lines of actions, or plans. You do the same thing to other users as well. I don't think you have any answers. How is one to have a conversation with someone who has nothing to contribute? Are you here only to troll? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) concrete lines of actions, or plans. And why would I discuss any of this with an enemy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Does anyone that question your methodology earn that title? How ought we to engage with you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) How ought we to engage with you? That's easy. Piss off. And take your liberal death cult with you - just like OP suggests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Interesting. More name calling. So before we can discuss how to actualize anything concrete for the left we have to prove ourselves not liberals. We can't have a conversation until the liberal label has been extirpated. I'm ready. How do we do that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol! Remember when I told you how you liberals really don't ever stand for anything? And now suddenly you do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I don't know what that means. All I learned from you is that to even begin to have a conversation I have to first testify under oath and somehow establish I'm not a liberal. I don't know what you want. Every question I pose is only met with another snide remark. But imma keep going because this is so bizzarre and fascinating. Once again, what ought I do to establish I'm not a liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) what ought I do to establish I’m not a liberal? So you are interested in making your attempts to co-opt and hijack leftist spaces to protect your precious liberal status quo less obvious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You've made it impossible to falsify your claim even after I've asked you for your terms. All roads seem to lead to Rome in some way with you. I say I'm not a liberal you say I'm a liberal I say how can I prove I'm not a liberal you say I'm pretending to be a liberal to co-opt leftist spaces (who knows to what end though) I will stop participating in liberal democracy. I will stop voting for any of the candidates because they all contribute to the status quo. Please. Tell me: what ought we do? Do you have a road map or an effective strategy to achieve anything? I'd really like to know if there's a better way. Thanks! <3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You’ve made it impossible to falsify I've done nothing of the sort. You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like - you don't need me to hold your hand through it... after all, you became a liberal without my help, did you not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) All you can contribute is name calling people liberals just for daring to ask the left to become more politically effective Thats all I asked for. I want the goal of the left to become reality. That's it. In order to do that, we have to be politically effective. If you have another strategy I'm all ears. What do you want? The revolution? Let's go, man. I'm right behind you! Let's do this. How do you want to get any of the lefts goals accomplished? Give me a roadmap. Anything. I'm 39. I've heard you guys yap about liberalism and fascism for over a dozen years and nothing, I mean nothing in terms of practical accomplishments. So give it to me, man. I'm all ears. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You have done nothing here except that which liberals have always done... attempting to co-opt leftists into helping you protect your precious status quo. And you're getting pretty darn desperate about it, too. Does it perhaps have anything to do with the fact that your precious liberal order was caught with it's hand in the genocide cookie jar and is now sinking faster than the Titanic, perhaps? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I notice you never answer or engage with anythitg I write. Why don't you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Oh, you noticed that I only spend the bare minimum of my energy on liberals, eh? Sure took you long enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) The only thing you've contributed to this entire conversation is calling me a liberal. Nothing about strategy, solutions, concrete lines of actions, or plans. You do the same thing to other users as well. I don't think you have any answers. How is one to have a conversation with someone who has nothing to contribute? Are you here only to troll? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) concrete lines of actions, or plans. And why would I discuss any of this with an enemy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Does anyone that question your methodology earn that title? How ought we to engage with you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) How ought we to engage with you? That's easy. Piss off. And take your liberal death cult with you - just like OP suggests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Interesting. More name calling. So before we can discuss how to actualize anything concrete for the left we have to prove ourselves not liberals. We can't have a conversation until the liberal label has been extirpated. I'm ready. How do we do that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol! Remember when I told you how you liberals really don't ever stand for anything? And now suddenly you do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I don't know what that means. All I learned from you is that to even begin to have a conversation I have to first testify under oath and somehow establish I'm not a liberal. I don't know what you want. Every question I pose is only met with another snide remark. But imma keep going because this is so bizzarre and fascinating. Once again, what ought I do to establish I'm not a liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) what ought I do to establish I’m not a liberal? So you are interested in making your attempts to co-opt and hijack leftist spaces to protect your precious liberal status quo less obvious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You've made it impossible to falsify your claim even after I've asked you for your terms. All roads seem to lead to Rome in some way with you. I say I'm not a liberal you say I'm a liberal I say how can I prove I'm not a liberal you say I'm pretending to be a liberal to co-opt leftist spaces (who knows to what end though) I will stop participating in liberal democracy. I will stop voting for any of the candidates because they all contribute to the status quo. Please. Tell me: what ought we do? Do you have a road map or an effective strategy to achieve anything? I'd really like to know if there's a better way. Thanks! <3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You’ve made it impossible to falsify I've done nothing of the sort. You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like - you don't need me to hold your hand through it... after all, you became a liberal without my help, did you not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You have done nothing here except that which liberals have always done... attempting to co-opt leftists into helping you protect your precious status quo. And you're getting pretty darn desperate about it, too. Does it perhaps have anything to do with the fact that your precious liberal order was caught with it's hand in the genocide cookie jar and is now sinking faster than the Titanic, perhaps? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I notice you never answer or engage with anythitg I write. Why don't you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Oh, you noticed that I only spend the bare minimum of my energy on liberals, eh? Sure took you long enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) The only thing you've contributed to this entire conversation is calling me a liberal. Nothing about strategy, solutions, concrete lines of actions, or plans. You do the same thing to other users as well. I don't think you have any answers. How is one to have a conversation with someone who has nothing to contribute? Are you here only to troll? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) concrete lines of actions, or plans. And why would I discuss any of this with an enemy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Does anyone that question your methodology earn that title? How ought we to engage with you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) How ought we to engage with you? That's easy. Piss off. And take your liberal death cult with you - just like OP suggests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Interesting. More name calling. So before we can discuss how to actualize anything concrete for the left we have to prove ourselves not liberals. We can't have a conversation until the liberal label has been extirpated. I'm ready. How do we do that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol! Remember when I told you how you liberals really don't ever stand for anything? And now suddenly you do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I don't know what that means. All I learned from you is that to even begin to have a conversation I have to first testify under oath and somehow establish I'm not a liberal. I don't know what you want. Every question I pose is only met with another snide remark. But imma keep going because this is so bizzarre and fascinating. Once again, what ought I do to establish I'm not a liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) what ought I do to establish I’m not a liberal? So you are interested in making your attempts to co-opt and hijack leftist spaces to protect your precious liberal status quo less obvious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You've made it impossible to falsify your claim even after I've asked you for your terms. All roads seem to lead to Rome in some way with you. I say I'm not a liberal you say I'm a liberal I say how can I prove I'm not a liberal you say I'm pretending to be a liberal to co-opt leftist spaces (who knows to what end though) I will stop participating in liberal democracy. I will stop voting for any of the candidates because they all contribute to the status quo. Please. Tell me: what ought we do? Do you have a road map or an effective strategy to achieve anything? I'd really like to know if there's a better way. Thanks! <3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You’ve made it impossible to falsify I've done nothing of the sort. You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like - you don't need me to hold your hand through it... after all, you became a liberal without my help, did you not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I notice you never answer or engage with anythitg I write. Why don't you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Oh, you noticed that I only spend the bare minimum of my energy on liberals, eh? Sure took you long enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) The only thing you've contributed to this entire conversation is calling me a liberal. Nothing about strategy, solutions, concrete lines of actions, or plans. You do the same thing to other users as well. I don't think you have any answers. How is one to have a conversation with someone who has nothing to contribute? Are you here only to troll? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) concrete lines of actions, or plans. And why would I discuss any of this with an enemy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Does anyone that question your methodology earn that title? How ought we to engage with you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) How ought we to engage with you? That's easy. Piss off. And take your liberal death cult with you - just like OP suggests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Interesting. More name calling. So before we can discuss how to actualize anything concrete for the left we have to prove ourselves not liberals. We can't have a conversation until the liberal label has been extirpated. I'm ready. How do we do that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol! Remember when I told you how you liberals really don't ever stand for anything? And now suddenly you do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I don't know what that means. All I learned from you is that to even begin to have a conversation I have to first testify under oath and somehow establish I'm not a liberal. I don't know what you want. Every question I pose is only met with another snide remark. But imma keep going because this is so bizzarre and fascinating. Once again, what ought I do to establish I'm not a liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) what ought I do to establish I’m not a liberal? So you are interested in making your attempts to co-opt and hijack leftist spaces to protect your precious liberal status quo less obvious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You've made it impossible to falsify your claim even after I've asked you for your terms. All roads seem to lead to Rome in some way with you. I say I'm not a liberal you say I'm a liberal I say how can I prove I'm not a liberal you say I'm pretending to be a liberal to co-opt leftist spaces (who knows to what end though) I will stop participating in liberal democracy. I will stop voting for any of the candidates because they all contribute to the status quo. Please. Tell me: what ought we do? Do you have a road map or an effective strategy to achieve anything? I'd really like to know if there's a better way. Thanks! <3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You’ve made it impossible to falsify I've done nothing of the sort. You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like - you don't need me to hold your hand through it... after all, you became a liberal without my help, did you not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Oh, you noticed that I only spend the bare minimum of my energy on liberals, eh? Sure took you long enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) The only thing you've contributed to this entire conversation is calling me a liberal. Nothing about strategy, solutions, concrete lines of actions, or plans. You do the same thing to other users as well. I don't think you have any answers. How is one to have a conversation with someone who has nothing to contribute? Are you here only to troll? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) concrete lines of actions, or plans. And why would I discuss any of this with an enemy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Does anyone that question your methodology earn that title? How ought we to engage with you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) How ought we to engage with you? That's easy. Piss off. And take your liberal death cult with you - just like OP suggests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Interesting. More name calling. So before we can discuss how to actualize anything concrete for the left we have to prove ourselves not liberals. We can't have a conversation until the liberal label has been extirpated. I'm ready. How do we do that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol! Remember when I told you how you liberals really don't ever stand for anything? And now suddenly you do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I don't know what that means. All I learned from you is that to even begin to have a conversation I have to first testify under oath and somehow establish I'm not a liberal. I don't know what you want. Every question I pose is only met with another snide remark. But imma keep going because this is so bizzarre and fascinating. Once again, what ought I do to establish I'm not a liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) what ought I do to establish I’m not a liberal? So you are interested in making your attempts to co-opt and hijack leftist spaces to protect your precious liberal status quo less obvious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You've made it impossible to falsify your claim even after I've asked you for your terms. All roads seem to lead to Rome in some way with you. I say I'm not a liberal you say I'm a liberal I say how can I prove I'm not a liberal you say I'm pretending to be a liberal to co-opt leftist spaces (who knows to what end though) I will stop participating in liberal democracy. I will stop voting for any of the candidates because they all contribute to the status quo. Please. Tell me: what ought we do? Do you have a road map or an effective strategy to achieve anything? I'd really like to know if there's a better way. Thanks! <3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You’ve made it impossible to falsify I've done nothing of the sort. You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like - you don't need me to hold your hand through it... after all, you became a liberal without my help, did you not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) The only thing you've contributed to this entire conversation is calling me a liberal. Nothing about strategy, solutions, concrete lines of actions, or plans. You do the same thing to other users as well. I don't think you have any answers. How is one to have a conversation with someone who has nothing to contribute? Are you here only to troll? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) concrete lines of actions, or plans. And why would I discuss any of this with an enemy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Does anyone that question your methodology earn that title? How ought we to engage with you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) How ought we to engage with you? That's easy. Piss off. And take your liberal death cult with you - just like OP suggests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Interesting. More name calling. So before we can discuss how to actualize anything concrete for the left we have to prove ourselves not liberals. We can't have a conversation until the liberal label has been extirpated. I'm ready. How do we do that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol! Remember when I told you how you liberals really don't ever stand for anything? And now suddenly you do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I don't know what that means. All I learned from you is that to even begin to have a conversation I have to first testify under oath and somehow establish I'm not a liberal. I don't know what you want. Every question I pose is only met with another snide remark. But imma keep going because this is so bizzarre and fascinating. Once again, what ought I do to establish I'm not a liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) what ought I do to establish I’m not a liberal? So you are interested in making your attempts to co-opt and hijack leftist spaces to protect your precious liberal status quo less obvious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You've made it impossible to falsify your claim even after I've asked you for your terms. All roads seem to lead to Rome in some way with you. I say I'm not a liberal you say I'm a liberal I say how can I prove I'm not a liberal you say I'm pretending to be a liberal to co-opt leftist spaces (who knows to what end though) I will stop participating in liberal democracy. I will stop voting for any of the candidates because they all contribute to the status quo. Please. Tell me: what ought we do? Do you have a road map or an effective strategy to achieve anything? I'd really like to know if there's a better way. Thanks! <3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You’ve made it impossible to falsify I've done nothing of the sort. You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like - you don't need me to hold your hand through it... after all, you became a liberal without my help, did you not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) concrete lines of actions, or plans. And why would I discuss any of this with an enemy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Does anyone that question your methodology earn that title? How ought we to engage with you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) How ought we to engage with you? That's easy. Piss off. And take your liberal death cult with you - just like OP suggests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Interesting. More name calling. So before we can discuss how to actualize anything concrete for the left we have to prove ourselves not liberals. We can't have a conversation until the liberal label has been extirpated. I'm ready. How do we do that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol! Remember when I told you how you liberals really don't ever stand for anything? And now suddenly you do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I don't know what that means. All I learned from you is that to even begin to have a conversation I have to first testify under oath and somehow establish I'm not a liberal. I don't know what you want. Every question I pose is only met with another snide remark. But imma keep going because this is so bizzarre and fascinating. Once again, what ought I do to establish I'm not a liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) what ought I do to establish I’m not a liberal? So you are interested in making your attempts to co-opt and hijack leftist spaces to protect your precious liberal status quo less obvious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You've made it impossible to falsify your claim even after I've asked you for your terms. All roads seem to lead to Rome in some way with you. I say I'm not a liberal you say I'm a liberal I say how can I prove I'm not a liberal you say I'm pretending to be a liberal to co-opt leftist spaces (who knows to what end though) I will stop participating in liberal democracy. I will stop voting for any of the candidates because they all contribute to the status quo. Please. Tell me: what ought we do? Do you have a road map or an effective strategy to achieve anything? I'd really like to know if there's a better way. Thanks! <3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You’ve made it impossible to falsify I've done nothing of the sort. You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like - you don't need me to hold your hand through it... after all, you became a liberal without my help, did you not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Does anyone that question your methodology earn that title? How ought we to engage with you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) How ought we to engage with you? That's easy. Piss off. And take your liberal death cult with you - just like OP suggests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Interesting. More name calling. So before we can discuss how to actualize anything concrete for the left we have to prove ourselves not liberals. We can't have a conversation until the liberal label has been extirpated. I'm ready. How do we do that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol! Remember when I told you how you liberals really don't ever stand for anything? And now suddenly you do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I don't know what that means. All I learned from you is that to even begin to have a conversation I have to first testify under oath and somehow establish I'm not a liberal. I don't know what you want. Every question I pose is only met with another snide remark. But imma keep going because this is so bizzarre and fascinating. Once again, what ought I do to establish I'm not a liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) what ought I do to establish I’m not a liberal? So you are interested in making your attempts to co-opt and hijack leftist spaces to protect your precious liberal status quo less obvious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You've made it impossible to falsify your claim even after I've asked you for your terms. All roads seem to lead to Rome in some way with you. I say I'm not a liberal you say I'm a liberal I say how can I prove I'm not a liberal you say I'm pretending to be a liberal to co-opt leftist spaces (who knows to what end though) I will stop participating in liberal democracy. I will stop voting for any of the candidates because they all contribute to the status quo. Please. Tell me: what ought we do? Do you have a road map or an effective strategy to achieve anything? I'd really like to know if there's a better way. Thanks! <3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You’ve made it impossible to falsify I've done nothing of the sort. You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like - you don't need me to hold your hand through it... after all, you became a liberal without my help, did you not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) How ought we to engage with you? That's easy. Piss off. And take your liberal death cult with you - just like OP suggests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Interesting. More name calling. So before we can discuss how to actualize anything concrete for the left we have to prove ourselves not liberals. We can't have a conversation until the liberal label has been extirpated. I'm ready. How do we do that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol! Remember when I told you how you liberals really don't ever stand for anything? And now suddenly you do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I don't know what that means. All I learned from you is that to even begin to have a conversation I have to first testify under oath and somehow establish I'm not a liberal. I don't know what you want. Every question I pose is only met with another snide remark. But imma keep going because this is so bizzarre and fascinating. Once again, what ought I do to establish I'm not a liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) what ought I do to establish I’m not a liberal? So you are interested in making your attempts to co-opt and hijack leftist spaces to protect your precious liberal status quo less obvious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You've made it impossible to falsify your claim even after I've asked you for your terms. All roads seem to lead to Rome in some way with you. I say I'm not a liberal you say I'm a liberal I say how can I prove I'm not a liberal you say I'm pretending to be a liberal to co-opt leftist spaces (who knows to what end though) I will stop participating in liberal democracy. I will stop voting for any of the candidates because they all contribute to the status quo. Please. Tell me: what ought we do? Do you have a road map or an effective strategy to achieve anything? I'd really like to know if there's a better way. Thanks! <3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You’ve made it impossible to falsify I've done nothing of the sort. You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like - you don't need me to hold your hand through it... after all, you became a liberal without my help, did you not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Interesting. More name calling. So before we can discuss how to actualize anything concrete for the left we have to prove ourselves not liberals. We can't have a conversation until the liberal label has been extirpated. I'm ready. How do we do that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol! Remember when I told you how you liberals really don't ever stand for anything? And now suddenly you do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I don't know what that means. All I learned from you is that to even begin to have a conversation I have to first testify under oath and somehow establish I'm not a liberal. I don't know what you want. Every question I pose is only met with another snide remark. But imma keep going because this is so bizzarre and fascinating. Once again, what ought I do to establish I'm not a liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) what ought I do to establish I’m not a liberal? So you are interested in making your attempts to co-opt and hijack leftist spaces to protect your precious liberal status quo less obvious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You've made it impossible to falsify your claim even after I've asked you for your terms. All roads seem to lead to Rome in some way with you. I say I'm not a liberal you say I'm a liberal I say how can I prove I'm not a liberal you say I'm pretending to be a liberal to co-opt leftist spaces (who knows to what end though) I will stop participating in liberal democracy. I will stop voting for any of the candidates because they all contribute to the status quo. Please. Tell me: what ought we do? Do you have a road map or an effective strategy to achieve anything? I'd really like to know if there's a better way. Thanks! <3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You’ve made it impossible to falsify I've done nothing of the sort. You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like - you don't need me to hold your hand through it... after all, you became a liberal without my help, did you not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol! Remember when I told you how you liberals really don't ever stand for anything? And now suddenly you do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I don't know what that means. All I learned from you is that to even begin to have a conversation I have to first testify under oath and somehow establish I'm not a liberal. I don't know what you want. Every question I pose is only met with another snide remark. But imma keep going because this is so bizzarre and fascinating. Once again, what ought I do to establish I'm not a liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) what ought I do to establish I’m not a liberal? So you are interested in making your attempts to co-opt and hijack leftist spaces to protect your precious liberal status quo less obvious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You've made it impossible to falsify your claim even after I've asked you for your terms. All roads seem to lead to Rome in some way with you. I say I'm not a liberal you say I'm a liberal I say how can I prove I'm not a liberal you say I'm pretending to be a liberal to co-opt leftist spaces (who knows to what end though) I will stop participating in liberal democracy. I will stop voting for any of the candidates because they all contribute to the status quo. Please. Tell me: what ought we do? Do you have a road map or an effective strategy to achieve anything? I'd really like to know if there's a better way. Thanks! <3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You’ve made it impossible to falsify I've done nothing of the sort. You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like - you don't need me to hold your hand through it... after all, you became a liberal without my help, did you not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I don't know what that means. All I learned from you is that to even begin to have a conversation I have to first testify under oath and somehow establish I'm not a liberal. I don't know what you want. Every question I pose is only met with another snide remark. But imma keep going because this is so bizzarre and fascinating. Once again, what ought I do to establish I'm not a liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) what ought I do to establish I’m not a liberal? So you are interested in making your attempts to co-opt and hijack leftist spaces to protect your precious liberal status quo less obvious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You've made it impossible to falsify your claim even after I've asked you for your terms. All roads seem to lead to Rome in some way with you. I say I'm not a liberal you say I'm a liberal I say how can I prove I'm not a liberal you say I'm pretending to be a liberal to co-opt leftist spaces (who knows to what end though) I will stop participating in liberal democracy. I will stop voting for any of the candidates because they all contribute to the status quo. Please. Tell me: what ought we do? Do you have a road map or an effective strategy to achieve anything? I'd really like to know if there's a better way. Thanks! <3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You’ve made it impossible to falsify I've done nothing of the sort. You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like - you don't need me to hold your hand through it... after all, you became a liberal without my help, did you not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) what ought I do to establish I’m not a liberal? So you are interested in making your attempts to co-opt and hijack leftist spaces to protect your precious liberal status quo less obvious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You've made it impossible to falsify your claim even after I've asked you for your terms. All roads seem to lead to Rome in some way with you. I say I'm not a liberal you say I'm a liberal I say how can I prove I'm not a liberal you say I'm pretending to be a liberal to co-opt leftist spaces (who knows to what end though) I will stop participating in liberal democracy. I will stop voting for any of the candidates because they all contribute to the status quo. Please. Tell me: what ought we do? Do you have a road map or an effective strategy to achieve anything? I'd really like to know if there's a better way. Thanks! <3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You’ve made it impossible to falsify I've done nothing of the sort. You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like - you don't need me to hold your hand through it... after all, you became a liberal without my help, did you not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You've made it impossible to falsify your claim even after I've asked you for your terms. All roads seem to lead to Rome in some way with you. I say I'm not a liberal you say I'm a liberal I say how can I prove I'm not a liberal you say I'm pretending to be a liberal to co-opt leftist spaces (who knows to what end though) I will stop participating in liberal democracy. I will stop voting for any of the candidates because they all contribute to the status quo. Please. Tell me: what ought we do? Do you have a road map or an effective strategy to achieve anything? I'd really like to know if there's a better way. Thanks! <3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You’ve made it impossible to falsify I've done nothing of the sort. You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like - you don't need me to hold your hand through it... after all, you became a liberal without my help, did you not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You’ve made it impossible to falsify I've done nothing of the sort. You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like - you don't need me to hold your hand through it... after all, you became a liberal without my help, did you not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Cool. I've stopped being a liberal and I won't participate in electoral politics. After all, it all contributes to fascism one way or the another, amirite? What should I do next? What's the strategy now? Is it more listening to you yap or is there an actual plan we can turn into concrete results? I'd like to know please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, I'm asking you what do we do next? Are you having a hard time understanding? It's the only question I've posed in this whole thread. Which part is confusing? What's the next step? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I’m asking you what do we do next? Who is "we," liberal? You are on a leftist sub, lib - the only people skulking around here who will help you protect your precious status quo are your fellow libs. So, again - which part of... You can stop being a liberal any time you feel like ...are you having a hard time understanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ah, I see. We're back to square one. The loop must go on. So again, we need to eliminate the liberalism out of me before we can talk leftist strategy. I said I got the liberal out. I stopped the liberalism. What's missing before we can move on to discussing strategy? I'm beginning to believe you have no concrete strategy. I've only asked you ten times in this thread. I shall persist though. Together, we can find a viable path to implementing our - - sorry sorry! YOUR-- goals. I'm not allowed to be part of your in-group because I haven't proven myself "not liberal". That's a hurdle we still have to overcome apparently. This is fun! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I stopped the liberalism. Oh, you did, huh? You took off your little ideology coat just like that, eh, liberal? Do tell... what coat are you wearing now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm an anarchist. Can we have a concrete plan of action? What do we do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, "anarchist..." what is it that you actually want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Same thing I've been asking from the beginning: what's the concrete path to achieving our goals? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, "anarchist..." what is "our" goals again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Generally a stateless and classless society free of the oppression and exploitation. However, at this point I'll settle for achieving anythitg that we want on the left of center. Really, I'd like anythitg (Universal Healthcare, parental leave, end of wage exploitation, etc).. I don't think what I'm asking is very mysterious. Would you like to obfuscate more or can you finally answer the question? What's your path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So all you actually want is another New Deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) At this point I'll take anything. I'm starting to think you don't have any strategy at all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a yes. So as soon as some liberal comes around and offers you one, you'll be swapping your "anarchist" coat out again, huh? Do tell... how did the last New Deal come into existence? Do you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) You seem really invested in labels and qualifiers rather than accomplishing anything. The aesthetic of the left for its own sake. Kinda like college kids who put up a Cheguevara poster in their dorm room. I want to be on board with a movement that accomplishes something. I'm not really interested in the cosplay part of the left, ya dig? I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even have as much as the semblance of a strategy or plan for implementing.... anything really. Good luck to... whatever it is you're trying to do. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you don't even understand how this thing you want came into existence in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I understand fake cosplay from lame ass losers with no practical agency when I see it. Its all theater. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll take that as a no... which begs the question - what are you doing here? You expect the left to give you something that only liberals will give you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) No, I don't. I want the left to give me anything as stated...many...many...times before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You want the left to give you the first-world privileges and comforts the liberals were supposed to give you. Is that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* Where are you getting all this from? "first world privileges"?? Why do you feel compelled to make stuff up? Why don't you ask me what I want? Hint: it's been mentioned several times in this thread. It's because you, masquenox, have nothing to offer apart from gate keeping and calling everyone you dislike 'liberals'. The left has plenty to offer but is hampered by imbeciles larping as 21st century leninists. Case in point.... Do better permalink fedilink source parent