▲ 302 ▼ New Mexico governor issues order suspending the right to carry firearms in public across Albuquerque (apnews.com) submitted 2 years ago by sith_lord_zitro@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 196 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you don't want to hurt anyone, why carry a weapon designed for that exact purpose? There's literally no other use for a gun. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudo22@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Want and need are different. I don't want to shoot a rabid dog that got loose, but I absolutely will before it bites me. Same with any other threats to my bodily safety that I can't escape from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) God, do Americans live in such a state of paranoia they always think something like that might happen whenever they leave the house so need a gun? Seems sad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudo22@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Are you under the impression that America has a violent crime rate of 0 and carriers are just hullicinating the existence of criminals or dangerous animals? If you're cool with relying on chance that you'll never need it, that's fine I'm not advocating you carry or change your laws. But I prefer to have the right to carry the tools to defend myself even if I'll likely never need them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, all countries have violent crimes, but I don't leave the house assuming I'll be a victim of one to the point I need to carry a lethal weapon. I can ubder stand say, women carrying pepper spray or the like to deter an attacker but killing them just seems like a step too far when you have no idea how they ended up at that point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudo22@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So you understand the concept and need for self defense. Pepper spray and tasers don't always work. If your assailant is on mind altering substances, pain compliance tools like PS will be inaffective. Tasers won't work (or are less likely to work) on winter clothing. If you're cool with your odds that's fine, but I'm not willing to risk my life (or more importantly my partner's life) when conceal carry is just as physical easy as PS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The problem is... you are assuming you are going to be attacked, and you assume you are going to be powerless unless you have a gun with you. Americans have been taught from infancy that the only true source of power and justice comes from the barrel of a gun. The lessons from the War of Independence and the Civil War have hammered home time and time again the belief that only naked, lethal force can guarantee safety and enact needed change. Not governments, or agencies, or powers. Not religion, not dialogues, not negotiations. Only the ability and willingness to kill your fellow man can guarantee your safety and shape the world around you into what you want to see. At times it has been your virtue, but it is also your curse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sudo22@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Want and need are different. I don't want to shoot a rabid dog that got loose, but I absolutely will before it bites me. Same with any other threats to my bodily safety that I can't escape from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) God, do Americans live in such a state of paranoia they always think something like that might happen whenever they leave the house so need a gun? Seems sad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudo22@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Are you under the impression that America has a violent crime rate of 0 and carriers are just hullicinating the existence of criminals or dangerous animals? If you're cool with relying on chance that you'll never need it, that's fine I'm not advocating you carry or change your laws. But I prefer to have the right to carry the tools to defend myself even if I'll likely never need them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, all countries have violent crimes, but I don't leave the house assuming I'll be a victim of one to the point I need to carry a lethal weapon. I can ubder stand say, women carrying pepper spray or the like to deter an attacker but killing them just seems like a step too far when you have no idea how they ended up at that point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudo22@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So you understand the concept and need for self defense. Pepper spray and tasers don't always work. If your assailant is on mind altering substances, pain compliance tools like PS will be inaffective. Tasers won't work (or are less likely to work) on winter clothing. If you're cool with your odds that's fine, but I'm not willing to risk my life (or more importantly my partner's life) when conceal carry is just as physical easy as PS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The problem is... you are assuming you are going to be attacked, and you assume you are going to be powerless unless you have a gun with you. Americans have been taught from infancy that the only true source of power and justice comes from the barrel of a gun. The lessons from the War of Independence and the Civil War have hammered home time and time again the belief that only naked, lethal force can guarantee safety and enact needed change. Not governments, or agencies, or powers. Not religion, not dialogues, not negotiations. Only the ability and willingness to kill your fellow man can guarantee your safety and shape the world around you into what you want to see. At times it has been your virtue, but it is also your curse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) God, do Americans live in such a state of paranoia they always think something like that might happen whenever they leave the house so need a gun? Seems sad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudo22@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Are you under the impression that America has a violent crime rate of 0 and carriers are just hullicinating the existence of criminals or dangerous animals? If you're cool with relying on chance that you'll never need it, that's fine I'm not advocating you carry or change your laws. But I prefer to have the right to carry the tools to defend myself even if I'll likely never need them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, all countries have violent crimes, but I don't leave the house assuming I'll be a victim of one to the point I need to carry a lethal weapon. I can ubder stand say, women carrying pepper spray or the like to deter an attacker but killing them just seems like a step too far when you have no idea how they ended up at that point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudo22@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So you understand the concept and need for self defense. Pepper spray and tasers don't always work. If your assailant is on mind altering substances, pain compliance tools like PS will be inaffective. Tasers won't work (or are less likely to work) on winter clothing. If you're cool with your odds that's fine, but I'm not willing to risk my life (or more importantly my partner's life) when conceal carry is just as physical easy as PS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The problem is... you are assuming you are going to be attacked, and you assume you are going to be powerless unless you have a gun with you. Americans have been taught from infancy that the only true source of power and justice comes from the barrel of a gun. The lessons from the War of Independence and the Civil War have hammered home time and time again the belief that only naked, lethal force can guarantee safety and enact needed change. Not governments, or agencies, or powers. Not religion, not dialogues, not negotiations. Only the ability and willingness to kill your fellow man can guarantee your safety and shape the world around you into what you want to see. At times it has been your virtue, but it is also your curse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sudo22@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Are you under the impression that America has a violent crime rate of 0 and carriers are just hullicinating the existence of criminals or dangerous animals? If you're cool with relying on chance that you'll never need it, that's fine I'm not advocating you carry or change your laws. But I prefer to have the right to carry the tools to defend myself even if I'll likely never need them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, all countries have violent crimes, but I don't leave the house assuming I'll be a victim of one to the point I need to carry a lethal weapon. I can ubder stand say, women carrying pepper spray or the like to deter an attacker but killing them just seems like a step too far when you have no idea how they ended up at that point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudo22@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So you understand the concept and need for self defense. Pepper spray and tasers don't always work. If your assailant is on mind altering substances, pain compliance tools like PS will be inaffective. Tasers won't work (or are less likely to work) on winter clothing. If you're cool with your odds that's fine, but I'm not willing to risk my life (or more importantly my partner's life) when conceal carry is just as physical easy as PS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The problem is... you are assuming you are going to be attacked, and you assume you are going to be powerless unless you have a gun with you. Americans have been taught from infancy that the only true source of power and justice comes from the barrel of a gun. The lessons from the War of Independence and the Civil War have hammered home time and time again the belief that only naked, lethal force can guarantee safety and enact needed change. Not governments, or agencies, or powers. Not religion, not dialogues, not negotiations. Only the ability and willingness to kill your fellow man can guarantee your safety and shape the world around you into what you want to see. At times it has been your virtue, but it is also your curse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, all countries have violent crimes, but I don't leave the house assuming I'll be a victim of one to the point I need to carry a lethal weapon. I can ubder stand say, women carrying pepper spray or the like to deter an attacker but killing them just seems like a step too far when you have no idea how they ended up at that point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudo22@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So you understand the concept and need for self defense. Pepper spray and tasers don't always work. If your assailant is on mind altering substances, pain compliance tools like PS will be inaffective. Tasers won't work (or are less likely to work) on winter clothing. If you're cool with your odds that's fine, but I'm not willing to risk my life (or more importantly my partner's life) when conceal carry is just as physical easy as PS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The problem is... you are assuming you are going to be attacked, and you assume you are going to be powerless unless you have a gun with you. Americans have been taught from infancy that the only true source of power and justice comes from the barrel of a gun. The lessons from the War of Independence and the Civil War have hammered home time and time again the belief that only naked, lethal force can guarantee safety and enact needed change. Not governments, or agencies, or powers. Not religion, not dialogues, not negotiations. Only the ability and willingness to kill your fellow man can guarantee your safety and shape the world around you into what you want to see. At times it has been your virtue, but it is also your curse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sudo22@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So you understand the concept and need for self defense. Pepper spray and tasers don't always work. If your assailant is on mind altering substances, pain compliance tools like PS will be inaffective. Tasers won't work (or are less likely to work) on winter clothing. If you're cool with your odds that's fine, but I'm not willing to risk my life (or more importantly my partner's life) when conceal carry is just as physical easy as PS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The problem is... you are assuming you are going to be attacked, and you assume you are going to be powerless unless you have a gun with you. Americans have been taught from infancy that the only true source of power and justice comes from the barrel of a gun. The lessons from the War of Independence and the Civil War have hammered home time and time again the belief that only naked, lethal force can guarantee safety and enact needed change. Not governments, or agencies, or powers. Not religion, not dialogues, not negotiations. Only the ability and willingness to kill your fellow man can guarantee your safety and shape the world around you into what you want to see. At times it has been your virtue, but it is also your curse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The problem is... you are assuming you are going to be attacked, and you assume you are going to be powerless unless you have a gun with you. Americans have been taught from infancy that the only true source of power and justice comes from the barrel of a gun. The lessons from the War of Independence and the Civil War have hammered home time and time again the belief that only naked, lethal force can guarantee safety and enact needed change. Not governments, or agencies, or powers. Not religion, not dialogues, not negotiations. Only the ability and willingness to kill your fellow man can guarantee your safety and shape the world around you into what you want to see. At times it has been your virtue, but it is also your curse. permalink fedilink source parent