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iFixit says the Switch 2 is even harder to repair than the original (www.theverge.com)
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[–] 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hope the drift issue is fixed. Ran into the issue with two of mine. The paper under the joystick hack didn't work and one of the brand new replacement joysticks I installed isn't responsive. 🙄

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  • [–] 91 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Spoiler alert: it's not. Same joysticks as last time.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's the same joystick design. As the video says that doesn't mean it will have the same issues as frequently, but it does mean it can have the same issues. The question will be at what rate.

    Given the coverage I have very low hopes that we will get a good idea of that from the press. Instead I expect the first Switch 2 joycon to drift will be put on an auction sale for every clickbait article to parade in front of people with rotten tomatoes at the ready. Still, it will matter if it's one in two or one in a million.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    They could have easily fixed it with hall effect sticks. That is a proven and inexpensive solution, but Nintendo prefers to sell more joycons and create waste, it's that simple.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's a known and proven shit solution. Have any of you ever actually used hall effect sensor joysticks? The centering is worse, the polling rate is far worse, they use a ton more power (already a limited resource in the individual joycons) and most of all they get absolutely screwed by electromagnetic interference... Interference like, say, magnets holding the joycons on.

    Ifixit is kind of full of shit here- the joysticks are the "same" only in that it's using the same general design as every other non-hall effect sensor joystick that's ever been used and most of those didn't have problems with drift.

    It's not the same part as the original joycons, so the issue could be fixed- from what the switch welcome tour was saying, it seems pretty likely in fact.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I use hall effect on the daily and have had none of the issues you're discussing. I suppose time will tell, but I much prefer hall effect.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Probably depends entirely on what games you play, and how sensitive you are, but hall effects feel like trash and destroy the joycon battery life. I tried playing Celeste with hall effects and wooooow was it bad. Basically unplayable past the early chapters.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    As a fellow celete player, I'm sorry your experience was like that, but I'm also currently using hall effect sticks on both my 8bitdo ultimate and my guillikit kong 2, it feels absolutely mint on both with no tinkering. I'm gonna have to ask you to name and shame the hall effect sticks you're using, please. Thanks!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Buddy says they were gulikit, yes (wasn't my joycons). Tried them out on chapter 2 golden and some c sides. He liked them (didn't play anything like Celeste) but had noticed the reduced battery, I could feel the reduced polling rates sometimes causing latency and throwing off timings.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I see, thanks! I'll come back and make an edit if I start having any similar issues.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    My understanding is that if they've lasted at least a month and haven't died on you, you probably got a "good" batch and what you have now will be what it stays as for the most part, but a fair number of gulikits just sort of crap out at the 1-2 mo mark.

    So heads up on that.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    You’re getting downvoted for telling a truth no one wants to hear. But magnetic interference is why Valve abandoned Hall effect for steam deck after a bunch of field tests. You can mod other handheld PCs like ROG Ally and people who do report the same thing. Hall effect is great for standalone controllers but totally incompatible with handhelds.

    But implying that Nintendo cheaped out again regarding its most infamous complaint about the last console is a much better way to get clicks on your site. There’s a million other things worth raking Nintendo over the coals for, but skipping on hall effect ain’t it.

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  • [+] -13 points 1 year ago

    It's not.

    Hall effect sticks probably would have increased the price, and then people would complain about how greedy Nintendo is even more than they do now.

    It's always the same story. Whatever they do, it's not good enough or too expensive or whatever. In the end, the thing will be sold out nonetheless.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's not, and the joycons are even HARDER to repair due to a piece of plastic glued over a screw on the inside..

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Thanks to 3d printing I have litres of isopropyl. What sucks is you probably want to replace the glue since it's there to protect against liquids, and Nintendo don't care to provide a seal kit

    You also need to remove stickers to get at the screws

    Also you need a security screwdriver (three blade) for those screws

    There are no replacement stickers, we wait for iFixit to provide guidance on adhesives

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