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The quickest turn off (lemmy.ca)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/banpitbulls@lemmy.ca
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[–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

Is that an instinct or a training thing? The previous comment was about nature vs nurture. To conclude anything about either from this chart is presumptuous. I'm honestly not even sure how to research it without doing horrible things to both dogs and people. Especially since owners are as likely to not know the signs of a stressed or aggressive animal as they are to accidentally train the same behaviors

Edit for follow-up question: How do these stats scale when normalized by the population of each breed? That would inform more about whether it's an instinct thing, whether owner culture contributes, or whether it's because there are so many of a given type of animal

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That would increase the pitbulls standing.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I mean, I just want to see legitimate publicly funded research into this, rather than out of context graphs and personal opinions. The closest thing I could find is this study by Purdue, but I wouldn't say it's conclusive. Even in this, the data collection method is subject to owner bias to some degree and it's not an enormous data set.

    Half the discourse is that pitbulls are gentle giants and it's due to poor or negligent training. Half the discourse is that they're aggressive and deadly because of what they are. I just want to remove the pathos and see the logos.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If you follow discourse on this subject, you will see an intent to obscure research into dog attacks and mislead reports on dog type from places like r/pitbull.

    This question could be answered by genetic dog breed testing of dangerous dogs, but that’s not law anywhere IIRC. That Purdue study is, for lack of a better term, normalized aggression research on breeds which is valuable. They mention Dachschunds being high on multiple stats, but a Dachschunds ability to maul is very different from larger type dogs like German Shepards or Pitbulls.

    People who argue “bad training” purposefully ignore the idea and influences of domestication, as a whole, and don’t mention genetically influenced behaviors from other animal species.

    We should all be supporting research into dog types and general safety / behavior of these (generally) wonderful creatures that we domesticated and live with in close proximity.

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