▲ 1176 ▼ That's an, uh, extremely suspect phrasing there, school textbook (lemmy.world) submitted 1 year ago by PugJesus@lemmy.world [M] to c/historymemes@lemmy.world 130 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Deceptichum@quokk.au 18 points 1 year ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hmm depends what you mean by "like Australia". Australia were brutal about how they treated their indigenous population. Straight up to kidnapping their kids and trying to breed them out of existence, last century... I don't know how they teach it today but I know they still have a long way to go to making things better. New Zealand on the other hand, while doing some fucked up shit of their own, have gone a long way to teaching the atrocious treatment of their indigenous people and try very hard to embrace and grow the culture of it within the worst populace. Might be a better comparison? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I always thought Canada was like Australia in that it had done terrible things but was working on fixing them. To hear they're still teaching that it was beneficial shows that they're really far behind on the path to reconciliation. NZ is good and a bit ahead of Australia, but they're also actively regressing on this front at the moment so huge loss of kudos to them there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago That's not representative of how we're all taught in Canada. Where I'm from, we're taught in school exactly how awful residential schools were, the people responsible for it, and the lasting damage it has caused our Indigenous people. It's not something that's brushed aside like it wasn't an atrocity, and many members of our community are still affected by it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago Yeah I was confused as well. I once was seriously considering moving to Australia, and so I visited for a month first to make sure it was definitely right for me. The amount of casual racism I noticed in the first day alone put me off for life. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) They are. Australia put aborginal kids in residence schools. Watch the movie "Rabbit Proof Fence". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 1 year ago* Talking about comparing current efforts to reconcile, not past atrocities. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I assume you're referring to the Stolen Generations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 1 year ago That's one thing yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tiddy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Its a balance, the government is trying to push it pretty hard - but thats made some racist areas even more racist in response. Though Hudson bay company is shutting down and we can all celebrate that Edit: I just remembered most reserves dont even have fiber internet though it would cost pennies to connect to the existing lines. Yeah no the systematic racism is very much still here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hmm depends what you mean by "like Australia". Australia were brutal about how they treated their indigenous population. Straight up to kidnapping their kids and trying to breed them out of existence, last century... I don't know how they teach it today but I know they still have a long way to go to making things better. New Zealand on the other hand, while doing some fucked up shit of their own, have gone a long way to teaching the atrocious treatment of their indigenous people and try very hard to embrace and grow the culture of it within the worst populace. Might be a better comparison? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I always thought Canada was like Australia in that it had done terrible things but was working on fixing them. To hear they're still teaching that it was beneficial shows that they're really far behind on the path to reconciliation. NZ is good and a bit ahead of Australia, but they're also actively regressing on this front at the moment so huge loss of kudos to them there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago That's not representative of how we're all taught in Canada. Where I'm from, we're taught in school exactly how awful residential schools were, the people responsible for it, and the lasting damage it has caused our Indigenous people. It's not something that's brushed aside like it wasn't an atrocity, and many members of our community are still affected by it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago Yeah I was confused as well. I once was seriously considering moving to Australia, and so I visited for a month first to make sure it was definitely right for me. The amount of casual racism I noticed in the first day alone put me off for life. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I always thought Canada was like Australia in that it had done terrible things but was working on fixing them. To hear they're still teaching that it was beneficial shows that they're really far behind on the path to reconciliation. NZ is good and a bit ahead of Australia, but they're also actively regressing on this front at the moment so huge loss of kudos to them there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago That's not representative of how we're all taught in Canada. Where I'm from, we're taught in school exactly how awful residential schools were, the people responsible for it, and the lasting damage it has caused our Indigenous people. It's not something that's brushed aside like it wasn't an atrocity, and many members of our community are still affected by it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago That's not representative of how we're all taught in Canada. Where I'm from, we're taught in school exactly how awful residential schools were, the people responsible for it, and the lasting damage it has caused our Indigenous people. It's not something that's brushed aside like it wasn't an atrocity, and many members of our community are still affected by it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago Yeah I was confused as well. I once was seriously considering moving to Australia, and so I visited for a month first to make sure it was definitely right for me. The amount of casual racism I noticed in the first day alone put me off for life. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) They are. Australia put aborginal kids in residence schools. Watch the movie "Rabbit Proof Fence". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 1 year ago* Talking about comparing current efforts to reconcile, not past atrocities. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 1 year ago* Talking about comparing current efforts to reconcile, not past atrocities. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I assume you're referring to the Stolen Generations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 1 year ago That's one thing yes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tiddy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Its a balance, the government is trying to push it pretty hard - but thats made some racist areas even more racist in response. Though Hudson bay company is shutting down and we can all celebrate that Edit: I just remembered most reserves dont even have fiber internet though it would cost pennies to connect to the existing lines. Yeah no the systematic racism is very much still here. permalink fedilink source parent
