▲ 246 ▼ Eurovision: Israel's result prompts questions over voting (www.bbc.co.uk) submitted 1 year ago by FelixCress@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 53 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/30155120
[–] VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com 71 points 1 year ago (3 children) If Eurovision is non-political, invite Russia back to participate. No fucking chance. The hypocrisy is astounding. Butchering innocent people is okay when the perpetrator is friendly to the west. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Well, 11 out of 37 total Eurovision participants are under threat of direct russian attack in the future, two of which already attacked and under occupation i.e. Georgia and Ukraine, so you'd ignore that at your own risk. Most eurovision countries have greater (urgent) self-interest in grounding russia before doing the same with israel, but I wouldn't say it is impossible, especially as genocide bibi starts to blame everyone for every stupid thing he does and diplomatic relations deteriorate. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's technically not countries participating, but broadcasters and they need to be independent of state control. The russian broadcasters were not kicked out for the russian invasion of Ukraine, but for being state controlled. They were accused of this for a long time and the invasion was the final straw. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s technically not countries participating, but broadcasters and they need to be independent of state control So...same problem as the geography question then. How the fuck does Australia participate? As best I can tell, it's broadcast here on SBS, a state-owned broadcaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) The person you replied to said that the needed to be independent of state control, not that they couldn’t be state owned. I don’t know about SBS but it is broadcast on BBC One in the UK which is also state owned but is not directly controlled by the state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] alansuspect@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago I think there's a difference between state-owned and state-funded. permalink fedilink source parent [–] roman_the_last_iac@api-dev.rabotaem.app 1 point 1 year ago That's right, you're making a point. Now, though, people in the comments will explain to you why you're wrong... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Well, 11 out of 37 total Eurovision participants are under threat of direct russian attack in the future, two of which already attacked and under occupation i.e. Georgia and Ukraine, so you'd ignore that at your own risk. Most eurovision countries have greater (urgent) self-interest in grounding russia before doing the same with israel, but I wouldn't say it is impossible, especially as genocide bibi starts to blame everyone for every stupid thing he does and diplomatic relations deteriorate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's technically not countries participating, but broadcasters and they need to be independent of state control. The russian broadcasters were not kicked out for the russian invasion of Ukraine, but for being state controlled. They were accused of this for a long time and the invasion was the final straw. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s technically not countries participating, but broadcasters and they need to be independent of state control So...same problem as the geography question then. How the fuck does Australia participate? As best I can tell, it's broadcast here on SBS, a state-owned broadcaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) The person you replied to said that the needed to be independent of state control, not that they couldn’t be state owned. I don’t know about SBS but it is broadcast on BBC One in the UK which is also state owned but is not directly controlled by the state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] alansuspect@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago I think there's a difference between state-owned and state-funded. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s technically not countries participating, but broadcasters and they need to be independent of state control So...same problem as the geography question then. How the fuck does Australia participate? As best I can tell, it's broadcast here on SBS, a state-owned broadcaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) The person you replied to said that the needed to be independent of state control, not that they couldn’t be state owned. I don’t know about SBS but it is broadcast on BBC One in the UK which is also state owned but is not directly controlled by the state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] alansuspect@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago I think there's a difference between state-owned and state-funded. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) The person you replied to said that the needed to be independent of state control, not that they couldn’t be state owned. I don’t know about SBS but it is broadcast on BBC One in the UK which is also state owned but is not directly controlled by the state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] alansuspect@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago I think there's a difference between state-owned and state-funded. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alansuspect@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago I think there's a difference between state-owned and state-funded. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] roman_the_last_iac@api-dev.rabotaem.app 1 point 1 year ago That's right, you're making a point. Now, though, people in the comments will explain to you why you're wrong... permalink fedilink source parent