▲ 469 ▼ Apple iPhone 15 relegated to USB 2.0 unless you buy the Pro (www.pcgamer.com) submitted 2 years ago* by casualhippo@sh.itjust.works to c/technology@lemmy.world 210 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 2 years ago (2 children) One last little 'f you for making us do this' Whatever, still better than lightning. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) they don't care because apple punishes the poors at every opportunity anyway. soldered on ram & ssd's on their laptops for fucks sake permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (3 children) Apple’s not the only one with soldered on components. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BroccoliFarts@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah I have a Thinkpad Carbon X1. It has soldered on RAM. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago You kind of chose the wrong series laptop to point this out. X series ThinkPad is ultra-portable line where sole focus is on weight and thickness. You can make an argument that memory clip doesn't weigh a lot, but they really reduce every gram they can. Literally every other series has clip-on RAM. Even if we ignore RAM, on ThinkPad pretty much everything is replaceable with a single screwdriver. Literally anything. You grab FRU#, find part that matches it and off you go. With Apple it's ungluing battery, ripping things apart. Hell even keyboard is riveted into the case and you have to drill holes and make threads to replace it. It's not comparable at the slightest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago ugh... please don't support companies that do this. I'd never purchase a pc laptop that didn't allow ram or ssd upgrades. insanity! I SAY! the dumbing down and enshittification will only proceed if people buy their products. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) dunno why you're downvoted, you're completely correct. BUT Apple is the only one charging eye-watering prices for the privilege. Yeah, there is that lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Agreed on the cost. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vitriolix@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Apple blazed the trail though, really pushed the idea that saving a millimeter by going to glued/soldered on components is a good idea permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Apple wasn’t the first to solder components onto the motherboard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 0 points 2 years ago It's to heat up the computer better! permalink fedilink source parent [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's funny (or sad I guess) that the current generation of laptops are back on mag chargers (I forget what they're called) instead of USB C. There was never a time when both iPhones and MacBooks used USB C charging. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] uint8_t@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) you can use either the magsafe or USB-C PD, both works permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry, should've clarified I meant the one that came with it in the box permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The cable that comes in the box is MagSafe, but the power brick is usb-c permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Sorry, should've clarified I meant the end of the cord that comes in the box that you're meant to plug into the laptop permalink fedilink source parent [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I don't have one, but I thought the user could either do magsafe or a usb-c to a laptop, either way will charge. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) they don't care because apple punishes the poors at every opportunity anyway. soldered on ram & ssd's on their laptops for fucks sake permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (3 children) Apple’s not the only one with soldered on components. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BroccoliFarts@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah I have a Thinkpad Carbon X1. It has soldered on RAM. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago You kind of chose the wrong series laptop to point this out. X series ThinkPad is ultra-portable line where sole focus is on weight and thickness. You can make an argument that memory clip doesn't weigh a lot, but they really reduce every gram they can. Literally every other series has clip-on RAM. Even if we ignore RAM, on ThinkPad pretty much everything is replaceable with a single screwdriver. Literally anything. You grab FRU#, find part that matches it and off you go. With Apple it's ungluing battery, ripping things apart. Hell even keyboard is riveted into the case and you have to drill holes and make threads to replace it. It's not comparable at the slightest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago ugh... please don't support companies that do this. I'd never purchase a pc laptop that didn't allow ram or ssd upgrades. insanity! I SAY! the dumbing down and enshittification will only proceed if people buy their products. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) dunno why you're downvoted, you're completely correct. BUT Apple is the only one charging eye-watering prices for the privilege. Yeah, there is that lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Agreed on the cost. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vitriolix@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Apple blazed the trail though, really pushed the idea that saving a millimeter by going to glued/soldered on components is a good idea permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Apple wasn’t the first to solder components onto the motherboard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 0 points 2 years ago It's to heat up the computer better! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (3 children) Apple’s not the only one with soldered on components. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BroccoliFarts@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah I have a Thinkpad Carbon X1. It has soldered on RAM. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago You kind of chose the wrong series laptop to point this out. X series ThinkPad is ultra-portable line where sole focus is on weight and thickness. You can make an argument that memory clip doesn't weigh a lot, but they really reduce every gram they can. Literally every other series has clip-on RAM. Even if we ignore RAM, on ThinkPad pretty much everything is replaceable with a single screwdriver. Literally anything. You grab FRU#, find part that matches it and off you go. With Apple it's ungluing battery, ripping things apart. Hell even keyboard is riveted into the case and you have to drill holes and make threads to replace it. It's not comparable at the slightest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago ugh... please don't support companies that do this. I'd never purchase a pc laptop that didn't allow ram or ssd upgrades. insanity! I SAY! the dumbing down and enshittification will only proceed if people buy their products. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) dunno why you're downvoted, you're completely correct. BUT Apple is the only one charging eye-watering prices for the privilege. Yeah, there is that lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Agreed on the cost. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vitriolix@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Apple blazed the trail though, really pushed the idea that saving a millimeter by going to glued/soldered on components is a good idea permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Apple wasn’t the first to solder components onto the motherboard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 0 points 2 years ago It's to heat up the computer better! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BroccoliFarts@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah I have a Thinkpad Carbon X1. It has soldered on RAM. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago You kind of chose the wrong series laptop to point this out. X series ThinkPad is ultra-portable line where sole focus is on weight and thickness. You can make an argument that memory clip doesn't weigh a lot, but they really reduce every gram they can. Literally every other series has clip-on RAM. Even if we ignore RAM, on ThinkPad pretty much everything is replaceable with a single screwdriver. Literally anything. You grab FRU#, find part that matches it and off you go. With Apple it's ungluing battery, ripping things apart. Hell even keyboard is riveted into the case and you have to drill holes and make threads to replace it. It's not comparable at the slightest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago ugh... please don't support companies that do this. I'd never purchase a pc laptop that didn't allow ram or ssd upgrades. insanity! I SAY! the dumbing down and enshittification will only proceed if people buy their products. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago You kind of chose the wrong series laptop to point this out. X series ThinkPad is ultra-portable line where sole focus is on weight and thickness. You can make an argument that memory clip doesn't weigh a lot, but they really reduce every gram they can. Literally every other series has clip-on RAM. Even if we ignore RAM, on ThinkPad pretty much everything is replaceable with a single screwdriver. Literally anything. You grab FRU#, find part that matches it and off you go. With Apple it's ungluing battery, ripping things apart. Hell even keyboard is riveted into the case and you have to drill holes and make threads to replace it. It's not comparable at the slightest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago ugh... please don't support companies that do this. I'd never purchase a pc laptop that didn't allow ram or ssd upgrades. insanity! I SAY! the dumbing down and enshittification will only proceed if people buy their products. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) dunno why you're downvoted, you're completely correct. BUT Apple is the only one charging eye-watering prices for the privilege. Yeah, there is that lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Agreed on the cost. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vitriolix@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Apple blazed the trail though, really pushed the idea that saving a millimeter by going to glued/soldered on components is a good idea permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Apple wasn’t the first to solder components onto the motherboard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 0 points 2 years ago It's to heat up the computer better! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Apple wasn’t the first to solder components onto the motherboard. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 0 points 2 years ago It's to heat up the computer better! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's funny (or sad I guess) that the current generation of laptops are back on mag chargers (I forget what they're called) instead of USB C. There was never a time when both iPhones and MacBooks used USB C charging. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] uint8_t@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) you can use either the magsafe or USB-C PD, both works permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry, should've clarified I meant the one that came with it in the box permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The cable that comes in the box is MagSafe, but the power brick is usb-c permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Sorry, should've clarified I meant the end of the cord that comes in the box that you're meant to plug into the laptop permalink fedilink source parent [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I don't have one, but I thought the user could either do magsafe or a usb-c to a laptop, either way will charge. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] uint8_t@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) you can use either the magsafe or USB-C PD, both works permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry, should've clarified I meant the one that came with it in the box permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The cable that comes in the box is MagSafe, but the power brick is usb-c permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Sorry, should've clarified I meant the end of the cord that comes in the box that you're meant to plug into the laptop permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry, should've clarified I meant the one that came with it in the box permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The cable that comes in the box is MagSafe, but the power brick is usb-c permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Sorry, should've clarified I meant the end of the cord that comes in the box that you're meant to plug into the laptop permalink fedilink source parent
[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The cable that comes in the box is MagSafe, but the power brick is usb-c permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Sorry, should've clarified I meant the end of the cord that comes in the box that you're meant to plug into the laptop permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Sorry, should've clarified I meant the end of the cord that comes in the box that you're meant to plug into the laptop permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I don't have one, but I thought the user could either do magsafe or a usb-c to a laptop, either way will charge. permalink fedilink source parent