▲ 644 ▼ They put A.I. in my truck. It warns me of everything I do wrong verbally. It reports everything to HQ. It is from a company called Solera. I take offense to this. Am I wrong? What can I do? Anything? (lemmy.world) submitted 1 year ago by ThrowAwayOK@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world 256 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] frozenpopsicle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) So, what I'm hearing is "don't struggle or it's gonna hurt more". I think this advice is horrible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) No. It's two things. Maybe truck drivers should have followed the rules better and drove safer. Drivers cooking their books have caused enormous amounts of harm and death, and that's ignoring the huge loss of money when a driver crashes because they've been driving for 26hrs straight. Don't fucking damage company property. This is actually my biggest sticking point for this whole thing. I dont care if you like it or not, the hardware is not fucking yours and the hardware being there is part of your employment agreement. Don't like it? Tough shit buddy take it up with the DOT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Krudler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's an awesome sermon from somebody who knows literally fuck all about trucking. The industry created the problem by demanding that drivers go beyond any form of reasonable work, drive endless unsafe stretches and cook the books or they're the ones getting canned. It's an industry which downloads all the pain onto the drivers. Shut the fuck up when you don't know what you're talking about. Don't just show up to scold people and make crap up and pull things out of your ass. You know nothing about trucking and that's clear. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I like how you ignored the part that actually upsets me about this. Don't fucking damage company property permalink fedilink source parent [–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Look, Jim, I know you don't like the explosive collar we bolted to your neck, but you've GOT to stop messing with company property -you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) No its more This thing is not owned by you and is required by the federal government. Please dont damage our very expensive hardware But yeah blow it up to an unreasonable level and anything sounds crazy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) The only part required by the govt is the electronic logbook. It doesnt need gps. It doesnt need ai. It doesnt need cell. It only needs the electronic logbook. So yeah - blow it up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Fun fact, ELDs require GPS. It's easy to find public information. There is also this web page which goes into more details about the "why" we have to have ELDs installed in trucks. And the cell service is to allow the actual device to communicate back to the parent. At my company we use Samsara and Motive. We do not use any AI features because we don't need them but I have talked to guys at other offices that do use it. Largely it's because of insurance. You can get crazy discounts on insurance for running something with the AI tracking. There are also some AI programs that optimize routing but those are """AI""" features not necessarily AI. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) No. It's two things. Maybe truck drivers should have followed the rules better and drove safer. Drivers cooking their books have caused enormous amounts of harm and death, and that's ignoring the huge loss of money when a driver crashes because they've been driving for 26hrs straight. Don't fucking damage company property. This is actually my biggest sticking point for this whole thing. I dont care if you like it or not, the hardware is not fucking yours and the hardware being there is part of your employment agreement. Don't like it? Tough shit buddy take it up with the DOT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Krudler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's an awesome sermon from somebody who knows literally fuck all about trucking. The industry created the problem by demanding that drivers go beyond any form of reasonable work, drive endless unsafe stretches and cook the books or they're the ones getting canned. It's an industry which downloads all the pain onto the drivers. Shut the fuck up when you don't know what you're talking about. Don't just show up to scold people and make crap up and pull things out of your ass. You know nothing about trucking and that's clear. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I like how you ignored the part that actually upsets me about this. Don't fucking damage company property permalink fedilink source parent [–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Look, Jim, I know you don't like the explosive collar we bolted to your neck, but you've GOT to stop messing with company property -you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) No its more This thing is not owned by you and is required by the federal government. Please dont damage our very expensive hardware But yeah blow it up to an unreasonable level and anything sounds crazy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) The only part required by the govt is the electronic logbook. It doesnt need gps. It doesnt need ai. It doesnt need cell. It only needs the electronic logbook. So yeah - blow it up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Fun fact, ELDs require GPS. It's easy to find public information. There is also this web page which goes into more details about the "why" we have to have ELDs installed in trucks. And the cell service is to allow the actual device to communicate back to the parent. At my company we use Samsara and Motive. We do not use any AI features because we don't need them but I have talked to guys at other offices that do use it. Largely it's because of insurance. You can get crazy discounts on insurance for running something with the AI tracking. There are also some AI programs that optimize routing but those are """AI""" features not necessarily AI. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's an awesome sermon from somebody who knows literally fuck all about trucking. The industry created the problem by demanding that drivers go beyond any form of reasonable work, drive endless unsafe stretches and cook the books or they're the ones getting canned. It's an industry which downloads all the pain onto the drivers. Shut the fuck up when you don't know what you're talking about. Don't just show up to scold people and make crap up and pull things out of your ass. You know nothing about trucking and that's clear. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I like how you ignored the part that actually upsets me about this. Don't fucking damage company property permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I like how you ignored the part that actually upsets me about this. Don't fucking damage company property permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Look, Jim, I know you don't like the explosive collar we bolted to your neck, but you've GOT to stop messing with company property -you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) No its more This thing is not owned by you and is required by the federal government. Please dont damage our very expensive hardware But yeah blow it up to an unreasonable level and anything sounds crazy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) The only part required by the govt is the electronic logbook. It doesnt need gps. It doesnt need ai. It doesnt need cell. It only needs the electronic logbook. So yeah - blow it up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Fun fact, ELDs require GPS. It's easy to find public information. There is also this web page which goes into more details about the "why" we have to have ELDs installed in trucks. And the cell service is to allow the actual device to communicate back to the parent. At my company we use Samsara and Motive. We do not use any AI features because we don't need them but I have talked to guys at other offices that do use it. Largely it's because of insurance. You can get crazy discounts on insurance for running something with the AI tracking. There are also some AI programs that optimize routing but those are """AI""" features not necessarily AI. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) No its more This thing is not owned by you and is required by the federal government. Please dont damage our very expensive hardware But yeah blow it up to an unreasonable level and anything sounds crazy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) The only part required by the govt is the electronic logbook. It doesnt need gps. It doesnt need ai. It doesnt need cell. It only needs the electronic logbook. So yeah - blow it up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Fun fact, ELDs require GPS. It's easy to find public information. There is also this web page which goes into more details about the "why" we have to have ELDs installed in trucks. And the cell service is to allow the actual device to communicate back to the parent. At my company we use Samsara and Motive. We do not use any AI features because we don't need them but I have talked to guys at other offices that do use it. Largely it's because of insurance. You can get crazy discounts on insurance for running something with the AI tracking. There are also some AI programs that optimize routing but those are """AI""" features not necessarily AI. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) The only part required by the govt is the electronic logbook. It doesnt need gps. It doesnt need ai. It doesnt need cell. It only needs the electronic logbook. So yeah - blow it up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Fun fact, ELDs require GPS. It's easy to find public information. There is also this web page which goes into more details about the "why" we have to have ELDs installed in trucks. And the cell service is to allow the actual device to communicate back to the parent. At my company we use Samsara and Motive. We do not use any AI features because we don't need them but I have talked to guys at other offices that do use it. Largely it's because of insurance. You can get crazy discounts on insurance for running something with the AI tracking. There are also some AI programs that optimize routing but those are """AI""" features not necessarily AI. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Fun fact, ELDs require GPS. It's easy to find public information. There is also this web page which goes into more details about the "why" we have to have ELDs installed in trucks. And the cell service is to allow the actual device to communicate back to the parent. At my company we use Samsara and Motive. We do not use any AI features because we don't need them but I have talked to guys at other offices that do use it. Largely it's because of insurance. You can get crazy discounts on insurance for running something with the AI tracking. There are also some AI programs that optimize routing but those are """AI""" features not necessarily AI. permalink fedilink source parent