▲ 647 ▼ New Zealand MPs who performed haka in parliament given unprecedented punishment (www.theguardian.com) submitted 1 year ago by schizoidman@lemm.ee to c/world@lemmy.world 174 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] yarr@feddit.nl -21 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 child) You are missing the context of Maori culture being alive and well in NZ, in NZ Parliament and that the haka was a response to the erosion of Maori rights... In NZ. No one was harmed by the haka. Before you go calling folks disingenuous, you may want to get more background information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yarr@feddit.nl -17 points 1 year ago (3 children) No one was harmed by the haka. The vote was delayed. You also don't know the reaction of other parliamentary members. The context of the haka is a dance done to intimidate enemies. Maybe some of the other members feel intimidated now. If I was a parliament member and stood up with 3 of my pals and loudly threatened another member, what do you think would happen to me? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago Wouldn’t want parliamentary process to be disrupted in any way by Maori’s expressing concern about laws that are going to affect them negatively. /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] Johnny5@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) in the USA we are purported to have “freedom of speech” Can you elaborate further on the cultural context of the haka, fellow American? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yarr@feddit.nl -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I really hate this "you're an outsider so you can't have an opinion". Am I only allowed to consider things in America? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Johnny5@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago You can consider whatever the heck you want but please don’t assert as fact your understanding of the cultural context of an art form from the other side of the globe. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago No one was harmed by the haka. The vote was delayed. Did he fucking stutter? If anything, it sounds like delaying the vote was an attempt to prevent harm. Maybe some of the other members feel intimidated now. That doesn't count as "harm" either, you dishonest ass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Johnny5@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) lol that’s a hell of a strawman “you’re being disingenuous, what about child sacrifice” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yarr@feddit.nl -5 points 1 year ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 child) You are missing the context of Maori culture being alive and well in NZ, in NZ Parliament and that the haka was a response to the erosion of Maori rights... In NZ. No one was harmed by the haka. Before you go calling folks disingenuous, you may want to get more background information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yarr@feddit.nl -17 points 1 year ago (3 children) No one was harmed by the haka. The vote was delayed. You also don't know the reaction of other parliamentary members. The context of the haka is a dance done to intimidate enemies. Maybe some of the other members feel intimidated now. If I was a parliament member and stood up with 3 of my pals and loudly threatened another member, what do you think would happen to me? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago Wouldn’t want parliamentary process to be disrupted in any way by Maori’s expressing concern about laws that are going to affect them negatively. /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] Johnny5@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) in the USA we are purported to have “freedom of speech” Can you elaborate further on the cultural context of the haka, fellow American? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yarr@feddit.nl -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I really hate this "you're an outsider so you can't have an opinion". Am I only allowed to consider things in America? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Johnny5@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago You can consider whatever the heck you want but please don’t assert as fact your understanding of the cultural context of an art form from the other side of the globe. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago No one was harmed by the haka. The vote was delayed. Did he fucking stutter? If anything, it sounds like delaying the vote was an attempt to prevent harm. Maybe some of the other members feel intimidated now. That doesn't count as "harm" either, you dishonest ass. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] yarr@feddit.nl -17 points 1 year ago (3 children) No one was harmed by the haka. The vote was delayed. You also don't know the reaction of other parliamentary members. The context of the haka is a dance done to intimidate enemies. Maybe some of the other members feel intimidated now. If I was a parliament member and stood up with 3 of my pals and loudly threatened another member, what do you think would happen to me? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago Wouldn’t want parliamentary process to be disrupted in any way by Maori’s expressing concern about laws that are going to affect them negatively. /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] Johnny5@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) in the USA we are purported to have “freedom of speech” Can you elaborate further on the cultural context of the haka, fellow American? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yarr@feddit.nl -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I really hate this "you're an outsider so you can't have an opinion". Am I only allowed to consider things in America? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Johnny5@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago You can consider whatever the heck you want but please don’t assert as fact your understanding of the cultural context of an art form from the other side of the globe. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago No one was harmed by the haka. The vote was delayed. Did he fucking stutter? If anything, it sounds like delaying the vote was an attempt to prevent harm. Maybe some of the other members feel intimidated now. That doesn't count as "harm" either, you dishonest ass. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago Wouldn’t want parliamentary process to be disrupted in any way by Maori’s expressing concern about laws that are going to affect them negatively. /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Johnny5@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) in the USA we are purported to have “freedom of speech” Can you elaborate further on the cultural context of the haka, fellow American? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yarr@feddit.nl -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I really hate this "you're an outsider so you can't have an opinion". Am I only allowed to consider things in America? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Johnny5@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago You can consider whatever the heck you want but please don’t assert as fact your understanding of the cultural context of an art form from the other side of the globe. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yarr@feddit.nl -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I really hate this "you're an outsider so you can't have an opinion". Am I only allowed to consider things in America? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Johnny5@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago You can consider whatever the heck you want but please don’t assert as fact your understanding of the cultural context of an art form from the other side of the globe. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Johnny5@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago You can consider whatever the heck you want but please don’t assert as fact your understanding of the cultural context of an art form from the other side of the globe. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago No one was harmed by the haka. The vote was delayed. Did he fucking stutter? If anything, it sounds like delaying the vote was an attempt to prevent harm. Maybe some of the other members feel intimidated now. That doesn't count as "harm" either, you dishonest ass. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Johnny5@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) lol that’s a hell of a strawman “you’re being disingenuous, what about child sacrifice” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yarr@feddit.nl -5 points 1 year ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent