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[–] Skipcast@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bla_bla_bla@feddit.org -44 points 1 year ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Baleine@jlai.lu 42 points 1 year ago (1 child) I thought it was just bots spamming comments on issues. See https://blog.codeberg.org/we-stay-strong-against-hate-and-hatred.html Also I would believe that since codeberg is run by volunteers in a non-profit organization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk -5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I agree with what you're saying, that the attack didn't require any data breach to take place, but I do have one slightly pedantic point. Codeberg being non-profit does not make the employees "volunteers". They are normal employees and take a wage like working for any other company. What's different is that any excess revenue over costs must be used to continue the company's objectives and is not able to be taken by the company owners as profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Baleine@jlai.lu 10 points 1 year ago No. Codeberg is run by volunteers. AFAIK Codeberg e.V. has only one part time employee https://blog.codeberg.org/letter-from-codeberg-we-are-now-an-employer.html permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You have to think of them more like a club rather than a non-profit company. Their legal form "eingetragener Verein" does mean "registered club". Basically, here in Germany, you can register a non-profit club and then you get exempt from taxes. And folks who donate to your club can also get that donation exempt from their taxes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) So more like a charity status? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago I guess, kinda? In my head, a Verein is definitely more of a hobby/socialising thing, but I do have to say that "club" certainly doesn't feel impactful enough. Like, Germany as a whole would fall apart, if you took the Vereine away. For example, the Red Cross is an e.V. here. There's e.V.s that support the local voluntary firefighters (although those are also organized by the municipality). We've got big-ass nature preservation e.V.s that do really important work in suing awful corporations. Local sports organizations and orchestras and whatnot are also organized as e.V.s. And perhaps the most relevant in this community is the KDE e.V., which helps organize/assist the wider KDE community. So, yeah, some of them definitely do work that one might expect from a charity... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Oinks@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago How was it an obvious data breach? The attack was done via Codebergs notification system. It's no different from the notification you got from me writing this comment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago How is that an obvious databreach? It was just bot spam, something every single public site has had issues with. permalink fedilink source parent [–] comfy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago That spam was a troll who found a loophole in the notification system. It was obviously not a data breach. That's clear to anyone who's worked with software databases or web servers. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] bla_bla_bla@feddit.org -44 points 1 year ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Baleine@jlai.lu 42 points 1 year ago (1 child) I thought it was just bots spamming comments on issues. See https://blog.codeberg.org/we-stay-strong-against-hate-and-hatred.html Also I would believe that since codeberg is run by volunteers in a non-profit organization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk -5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I agree with what you're saying, that the attack didn't require any data breach to take place, but I do have one slightly pedantic point. Codeberg being non-profit does not make the employees "volunteers". They are normal employees and take a wage like working for any other company. What's different is that any excess revenue over costs must be used to continue the company's objectives and is not able to be taken by the company owners as profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Baleine@jlai.lu 10 points 1 year ago No. Codeberg is run by volunteers. AFAIK Codeberg e.V. has only one part time employee https://blog.codeberg.org/letter-from-codeberg-we-are-now-an-employer.html permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You have to think of them more like a club rather than a non-profit company. Their legal form "eingetragener Verein" does mean "registered club". Basically, here in Germany, you can register a non-profit club and then you get exempt from taxes. And folks who donate to your club can also get that donation exempt from their taxes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) So more like a charity status? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago I guess, kinda? In my head, a Verein is definitely more of a hobby/socialising thing, but I do have to say that "club" certainly doesn't feel impactful enough. Like, Germany as a whole would fall apart, if you took the Vereine away. For example, the Red Cross is an e.V. here. There's e.V.s that support the local voluntary firefighters (although those are also organized by the municipality). We've got big-ass nature preservation e.V.s that do really important work in suing awful corporations. Local sports organizations and orchestras and whatnot are also organized as e.V.s. And perhaps the most relevant in this community is the KDE e.V., which helps organize/assist the wider KDE community. So, yeah, some of them definitely do work that one might expect from a charity... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Oinks@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago How was it an obvious data breach? The attack was done via Codebergs notification system. It's no different from the notification you got from me writing this comment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago How is that an obvious databreach? It was just bot spam, something every single public site has had issues with. permalink fedilink source parent [–] comfy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago That spam was a troll who found a loophole in the notification system. It was obviously not a data breach. That's clear to anyone who's worked with software databases or web servers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Baleine@jlai.lu 42 points 1 year ago (1 child) I thought it was just bots spamming comments on issues. See https://blog.codeberg.org/we-stay-strong-against-hate-and-hatred.html Also I would believe that since codeberg is run by volunteers in a non-profit organization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk -5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I agree with what you're saying, that the attack didn't require any data breach to take place, but I do have one slightly pedantic point. Codeberg being non-profit does not make the employees "volunteers". They are normal employees and take a wage like working for any other company. What's different is that any excess revenue over costs must be used to continue the company's objectives and is not able to be taken by the company owners as profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Baleine@jlai.lu 10 points 1 year ago No. Codeberg is run by volunteers. AFAIK Codeberg e.V. has only one part time employee https://blog.codeberg.org/letter-from-codeberg-we-are-now-an-employer.html permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You have to think of them more like a club rather than a non-profit company. Their legal form "eingetragener Verein" does mean "registered club". Basically, here in Germany, you can register a non-profit club and then you get exempt from taxes. And folks who donate to your club can also get that donation exempt from their taxes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) So more like a charity status? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago I guess, kinda? In my head, a Verein is definitely more of a hobby/socialising thing, but I do have to say that "club" certainly doesn't feel impactful enough. Like, Germany as a whole would fall apart, if you took the Vereine away. For example, the Red Cross is an e.V. here. There's e.V.s that support the local voluntary firefighters (although those are also organized by the municipality). We've got big-ass nature preservation e.V.s that do really important work in suing awful corporations. Local sports organizations and orchestras and whatnot are also organized as e.V.s. And perhaps the most relevant in this community is the KDE e.V., which helps organize/assist the wider KDE community. So, yeah, some of them definitely do work that one might expect from a charity... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wewbull@feddit.uk -5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I agree with what you're saying, that the attack didn't require any data breach to take place, but I do have one slightly pedantic point. Codeberg being non-profit does not make the employees "volunteers". They are normal employees and take a wage like working for any other company. What's different is that any excess revenue over costs must be used to continue the company's objectives and is not able to be taken by the company owners as profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Baleine@jlai.lu 10 points 1 year ago No. Codeberg is run by volunteers. AFAIK Codeberg e.V. has only one part time employee https://blog.codeberg.org/letter-from-codeberg-we-are-now-an-employer.html permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You have to think of them more like a club rather than a non-profit company. Their legal form "eingetragener Verein" does mean "registered club". Basically, here in Germany, you can register a non-profit club and then you get exempt from taxes. And folks who donate to your club can also get that donation exempt from their taxes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) So more like a charity status? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago I guess, kinda? In my head, a Verein is definitely more of a hobby/socialising thing, but I do have to say that "club" certainly doesn't feel impactful enough. Like, Germany as a whole would fall apart, if you took the Vereine away. For example, the Red Cross is an e.V. here. There's e.V.s that support the local voluntary firefighters (although those are also organized by the municipality). We've got big-ass nature preservation e.V.s that do really important work in suing awful corporations. Local sports organizations and orchestras and whatnot are also organized as e.V.s. And perhaps the most relevant in this community is the KDE e.V., which helps organize/assist the wider KDE community. So, yeah, some of them definitely do work that one might expect from a charity... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Baleine@jlai.lu 10 points 1 year ago No. Codeberg is run by volunteers. AFAIK Codeberg e.V. has only one part time employee https://blog.codeberg.org/letter-from-codeberg-we-are-now-an-employer.html permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You have to think of them more like a club rather than a non-profit company. Their legal form "eingetragener Verein" does mean "registered club". Basically, here in Germany, you can register a non-profit club and then you get exempt from taxes. And folks who donate to your club can also get that donation exempt from their taxes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) So more like a charity status? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago I guess, kinda? In my head, a Verein is definitely more of a hobby/socialising thing, but I do have to say that "club" certainly doesn't feel impactful enough. Like, Germany as a whole would fall apart, if you took the Vereine away. For example, the Red Cross is an e.V. here. There's e.V.s that support the local voluntary firefighters (although those are also organized by the municipality). We've got big-ass nature preservation e.V.s that do really important work in suing awful corporations. Local sports organizations and orchestras and whatnot are also organized as e.V.s. And perhaps the most relevant in this community is the KDE e.V., which helps organize/assist the wider KDE community. So, yeah, some of them definitely do work that one might expect from a charity... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) So more like a charity status? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago I guess, kinda? In my head, a Verein is definitely more of a hobby/socialising thing, but I do have to say that "club" certainly doesn't feel impactful enough. Like, Germany as a whole would fall apart, if you took the Vereine away. For example, the Red Cross is an e.V. here. There's e.V.s that support the local voluntary firefighters (although those are also organized by the municipality). We've got big-ass nature preservation e.V.s that do really important work in suing awful corporations. Local sports organizations and orchestras and whatnot are also organized as e.V.s. And perhaps the most relevant in this community is the KDE e.V., which helps organize/assist the wider KDE community. So, yeah, some of them definitely do work that one might expect from a charity... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago I guess, kinda? In my head, a Verein is definitely more of a hobby/socialising thing, but I do have to say that "club" certainly doesn't feel impactful enough. Like, Germany as a whole would fall apart, if you took the Vereine away. For example, the Red Cross is an e.V. here. There's e.V.s that support the local voluntary firefighters (although those are also organized by the municipality). We've got big-ass nature preservation e.V.s that do really important work in suing awful corporations. Local sports organizations and orchestras and whatnot are also organized as e.V.s. And perhaps the most relevant in this community is the KDE e.V., which helps organize/assist the wider KDE community. So, yeah, some of them definitely do work that one might expect from a charity... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Oinks@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago How was it an obvious data breach? The attack was done via Codebergs notification system. It's no different from the notification you got from me writing this comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago How is that an obvious databreach? It was just bot spam, something every single public site has had issues with. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago That spam was a troll who found a loophole in the notification system. It was obviously not a data breach. That's clear to anyone who's worked with software databases or web servers. permalink fedilink source parent