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I bet it's an engineering marvel though. (lemmy.world)
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[–] -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Or maybe it is the brainwashing of the Springer-press that continues to vilify the Greens

The German greens are the greatest insult to ecology and progressivism in the history of Earth. Born out of the antinuclear movement and immediately coopted by fossil fuel lobbies, the only thing they've done is to encourage MORE coal plants to be opened (due to pushing for the closure of nuclear plants), and supported every single neoliberal anti-welfare budget and every military intervention (think bombing of Yugoslavia, bombing of Libya, invasion of Iraq). They're seriously one of the worst parties in the EU.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Remind me again, who ordered the nuclear plants to be closed, and who prolonged their runtimes? Who came up with Agenda 2010 and who blocked Bürgergeld being more than a name change?

    And if they are one of the worst parties of the EU, I envy your selective reading. We have parties more or less openly advocating for fascism. "SocDems but with a green coat of paint" don't even make the top ten.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    This account is a known pro-russia anti-liberal troll.

    Don't feed it. plonk

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Must be convenient being a European lib and discarding everyone further left than you as a "Ruzzian troll bot". I also haven't fucking commented or posted in the previous month essentially, if you actually go through my account history, but go ahead with your thought-terminating clichés. Seriously, the "Russian bot" is the "woke" of libs, just a series of words you repeat to discard information that doesn't suit your preconceived notion or your point of view.

    For reference, I'm a Spaniard who voted for Podemos since they appeared in the political spectrum, and militant in a socialist org in my homeland. But whatever floats your boat.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Did not call you a bot, but I have read your comments before and flagged your username as someone who appears left-aligned, but unreasonable, pro russian and anti-NATO when it comes to the russian war of aggression against Ukraine.

    This is, I presume also the main point in your opposition to the german Greens, a party very much aligned with a free Ukraine and opposed to russian imperial aggression.

    Because from my point of view, it looks like in your worldview everything western, everything touched by the US, everything that opposed the eastern block in any way is tainted by imerialism. Your comments lack any evidence of nuance or understanding that both the west and the east were and are are ruled by horrible people and good people trying their best. I'm forced to fucking both-sides-ism upon reading your history, because your radical positions lack so much dearly needed nuance.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago*

    Did not call you a bot

    Sorry, assumed that because of the plonk, what did you mean by that then?

    pro russian

    I'm not "pro-Russian" except in terms of ethnicity. Currently there's pervasive and state-supported russophobia all over the western world, and I consider myself anti-racist. Regarding the Russian government, not only do I think it's on a downwards fascist spiral, oppressing women, LGTBQ and minorities, I have loved ones directly suffering under the Putin regime.

    You call my lack of nuance, but as a western-european socialist, what's the nuanced alternative? Supporting the military rearming of the western genocidal empire currently funding genocide and neocolonialism? I'm not "in favour" of the Russian invasion of Ukraine per-se, I just understand that it's the necessary consequence of imperialist struggle to see who controls the former Soviet block's sphere of influence. The Russian bourgeoisie, born in the 90s' plundering of the formerly state-owned economy, won't accept subservience to North American and Western-European capital, so it naturally revolves against that.

    The west has been, despite the agreements of the 90s, pushing NATO further east, and funding and staging colour revolutions all over the former eastern block. Given the current Russian lack of soft power, the only alternative to western control (at best, as in the case of Poland) and colonialism (at worst, as in the case of the Ukraine resource extraction deal) is Russian military intervention. It's a sad state of affairs, but the Russian bourgeoisie tried to establish economic links with Europe and it wasn't allowed to do so, with tensions peaking after the US-sponsored blowup of Nordstream.

    My analysis is that Russian militarism is the only tool the Russian bourgeoisie has been allowed to maintain its sphere of influence. My proposal is the rapprochement of Western Europe with Russia to defuse the tensions, and to stop trying to destroy Russian influence in its neighbouring regions, because as bad as Russia is, I don't think it's a solid strategy for peace that Russia would, for example, start soft coups in Mexico or Guatemala (just as a comparison). Creating other routes could perfectly well defuse militarism in Europe from both sides which, as a male below 30, I see desirable (since I dont wanna die in imperialist war).

    Now please tell me what part of my analysis is lacking nuance. You may disagree, but I don't think lack of nuance is my problem.

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