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Linux For Life (lemm.ee)
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[–] 325 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

  1. Linux normally does a nice shutdown as well, unless you force it.

  2. You can force it on windows if you really want.

I'm so tired of linux memes posted/made by people who don't know much about windows or linux.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    You can force it on windows if you really want.

    Please elaborate

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  • [–] 127 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Shutdown.exe -r -t 00 -f

    Fast , no mucking around with graceful exiting of stuff. Kicks it in the teefs

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I use that as a bat file so all I have to do is double click it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don’t use windows.

    Not sure if this is a joke or serious.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I can't speak for them if they're joking or not but it's something you can absolutely do. *.bat files (short for "batch", as in a batch of commands to execute in sequence) are the script files for the Windows command line, and can be executed by double clicking on them

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Thanks, I’m familiar with batch files. This just seems like a very bad way to perform a shutdown, especially when running a UI Desktop windowing system. And even if that shutdown command is fully supported from the GUI, I would guess you need to be admin to run it, which means you can run the bat file as admin, so if you can edit the file or modify the env in which it runs (e.g. PATH) it seems like it could be a security problem. And if you don’t need to be root to run the shutdown command, that seems like its own problem. I suppose Windows still has the β€œrun as administrator” from the context menu so maybe that helps.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    You did say "I don't use Windows" which sounded like you were saying you didn't know if what they were saying was technically plausible or reasonable, and without knowing what you do or don't know about Windows or DOS, figured I'd respond with the presumption that it's possible you're only really familiar with *NIX systems (which is not a judgement).

    I find it kludgey and unnecessary to shut down that way, but it's not exactly a bad idea, and it does not require admin rights.

    And there's no reason it wouldn't be supported: when you run the file, it opens it in a terminal window, it's exactly like if you manually opened it and typed it from a technical point of view.

    And if someone malicious has the ability to edit a file on your desktop, they could do a lot more dangerous things, pretty much anything you could put in the batch file, more or less directly.

    Really, the only issue here is that you'd always be force closing your programs when you shut down which increases the odds that eventually they might corrupt one of their files... Not a huge risk, but non-zero.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    00?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    How many seconds you're prepared to wait for Windows to shutdown.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah, but why 00 and not 00000? Or 0.000?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I know! I wasn't sure when I posted it, so stuck to memory to be safe.

    I reckon I've confused the double digits needed for the silly shutdown explanation thing (planned/unplanned, various reasons) instead...

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    There's also a hardware way, works on practically any device. Phone, tablet, laptop, desktop, etc. Doesn't matter what the OS is.

    Press and hold power button for anywhere between 5 - 15 seconds. The second half of this meme describes this method the best, methinks.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago*

    Oh, p-lease, can force it my ass, Linux has never failed to shutdown on me when using plain obvious GUI method. windows - can easily hang on forever as long as computer stays powered. The point of all the memes is exactly insane windows defaults, not the things that can or can't be done by someone with enough knowledge

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Epic?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Why not Ctrl+Shift+Esc?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    1. Linux programs either HAVE to be quick while receiving shutdown signal, otherwise the state will be fucked, work will be lost, and people will be mad, and program will stop being used.

    2. Clicking the Windows button to force shutdown will straight up kill the program and won't care at all.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah this is more of a situation where because more applications are built for windows you're more likely to encounter poor quality application level software on windows than on Linux. Especially if you stay within the walled garden that most distros provide.

    People see a pattern with having a lot more problems with applications on windows than they do on linux and wrongly assume it's because of the OS.

    It's really silly since there's plenty of real bullshit going on with windows people could meme about. There's no need to make up shit about windows being bad at something it actually does ok with.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Windows also has to worry about getting sued by another multinational conglomerate when some idiot loses the only copy if a super critical file because they were too lazy to save and forced their laptop to shutdown so they could pickup lunch.

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