▲ 1460 ▼ The Welsh disagree. (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by SomeoneElse@lemmy.world [M] to c/confidently_incorrect@lemmy.world 156 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 134 points 3 years ago (4 children) dead language If people learn it, and people use it, it is by definition not a dead language. This is some colonialist BS. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] User_4272894@lemmy.world 17 points 3 years ago Also, over half a million Welsh speakers exist in Wales, accounting for roughly 20% of the population. It's hardly dead. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well Latin is a dead language, people do learn and use it. But there is no new words, or evolution of the language. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 years ago Not really, there is an office at the Vatican charged with maintaining orthodox Latin, and they are also responsible for neologisms for contemporary concepts, so that they can weigh in on cell phones, hot dogs, or weapons of mass destruction. https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/institutions_connected/latinitas/documents/rc_latinitas_20040601_lexicon_it.html One example: "hot pants" -> "brevíssimae bracae femíneae" permalink fedilink source parent [–] vsg@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Also, isn't Welsh the Celtic language with the most native speakers? permalink fedilink source parent [–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 years ago* (4 children) Resurrected Language might be a better way to put it, the Welsh that people speak today is mostly an academic construction (which also applies to French and Portuguese, that isn't meant as an insult). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ziggurism@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago what do you mean about french and portuguese being academic reconstructions? permalink fedilink source parent [–] aidan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago For French it is an insult. Descriptivism is lame permalink fedilink source parent [+] kadu@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 years ago Modern Hebrew is another good example of this. Possibly the most successful language revitalization project of all time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] User_4272894@lemmy.world 17 points 3 years ago Also, over half a million Welsh speakers exist in Wales, accounting for roughly 20% of the population. It's hardly dead. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well Latin is a dead language, people do learn and use it. But there is no new words, or evolution of the language. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 years ago Not really, there is an office at the Vatican charged with maintaining orthodox Latin, and they are also responsible for neologisms for contemporary concepts, so that they can weigh in on cell phones, hot dogs, or weapons of mass destruction. https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/institutions_connected/latinitas/documents/rc_latinitas_20040601_lexicon_it.html One example: "hot pants" -> "brevíssimae bracae femíneae" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 years ago Not really, there is an office at the Vatican charged with maintaining orthodox Latin, and they are also responsible for neologisms for contemporary concepts, so that they can weigh in on cell phones, hot dogs, or weapons of mass destruction. https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/institutions_connected/latinitas/documents/rc_latinitas_20040601_lexicon_it.html One example: "hot pants" -> "brevíssimae bracae femíneae" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vsg@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Also, isn't Welsh the Celtic language with the most native speakers? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 years ago* (4 children) Resurrected Language might be a better way to put it, the Welsh that people speak today is mostly an academic construction (which also applies to French and Portuguese, that isn't meant as an insult). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ziggurism@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago what do you mean about french and portuguese being academic reconstructions? permalink fedilink source parent [–] aidan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago For French it is an insult. Descriptivism is lame permalink fedilink source parent [+] kadu@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 years ago Modern Hebrew is another good example of this. Possibly the most successful language revitalization project of all time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ziggurism@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago what do you mean about french and portuguese being academic reconstructions? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aidan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago For French it is an insult. Descriptivism is lame permalink fedilink source parent
[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 years ago Modern Hebrew is another good example of this. Possibly the most successful language revitalization project of all time. permalink fedilink source parent