▲ 763 ▼ White House Confirms Trump Is Exploring Ways To ‘Deport’ U.S. Citizens (www.huffpost.com) submitted 1 year ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to c/news@lemmy.world 106 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (3 children) Which means more 2A people need to start practicing. ICE agents shouldn't get to go home at night. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] warbond@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children) Realistically, what would happen if ICE agents came in the middle of the night and a person were to completely gun them down? I assume it would escalate responses in general, but what happens to that person? Is martyrdom as much as they could hope for? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago Yeah, they're not gonna live to the next day, unless they get all of the agents. But they would be doing a net good to society. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Realistically, what would happen if ICE agents came in the middle of the night and a person were to completely gun them down? The videos I've seen the ICE agents are in street clothes. They aren't wearing uniforms, no badges, nothing to indicate they're official agents at all. If these people show up at night, I'd say open fire. They look like any other gang member. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MBech@feddit.dk 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Also, what's worse, getting deported into slavelabour or dying in your home, but getting to fire back against the SS, ups ICE? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago 100%. If I were American (I'm not), in my American home (also not), on American soil (again not) and the government decided I was too woke and wanted to deport me to a deathcamp out of country, I'd definitely choose the Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid ending. In fact, if this were happening in my town I might choose to go out slowly picking off as many ICE, government and police in their homes first. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago You would be put in prison, and the only hope of getting out is your revolution winning, taking power and absolving all the people who to action of their crimes. Think about it this way: The government is tyrannical, but they don’t see it that way. They don’t see your use of the 2nd amendment as “valid”, they see it as killing federal officials trying to do their job. Your only chance is change. permalink fedilink source parent [–] supamanc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) You would be labeled a terrorist, the ICE agents would become martyrs, and all future raids would be executed full SWAT style, with flashbangs, snipers, shoot to kill etc. They save a ton on deporting people, and get to straight up murder disidents in their home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago Trumps America is really incredible. People voted for this. Whenever you feel stupid like because you made a mistake or something, just remember that people voted for this, and then you don't have to feel so stupid anymore. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) The Venn diagram of those groups is a circle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Perhaps the outspoken ones from the past several decades. But there are plenty who don't out themselves, because they understand trigger discipline. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago Yes, indeed. 2A was written specifically for this situation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago Ammosexuals is what we call em permalink fedilink source parent [–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* That is objectively false. While most pro 2A people are rightwing, to say or even imply that it is all is ridiculous and counterproductive to resistance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DogWater@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago That's not true :) R/SocialistRA And r/liberalgunowners permalink fedilink source parent [–] Apple87sagan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) What are 2A people? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago Second Amendment, specifically the ones who have be very staunchly against government overreach (coincidentally, they've been largely conservative, and pro Fascist 47 - at least the loud online ones). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] warbond@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children) Realistically, what would happen if ICE agents came in the middle of the night and a person were to completely gun them down? I assume it would escalate responses in general, but what happens to that person? Is martyrdom as much as they could hope for? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago Yeah, they're not gonna live to the next day, unless they get all of the agents. But they would be doing a net good to society. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Realistically, what would happen if ICE agents came in the middle of the night and a person were to completely gun them down? The videos I've seen the ICE agents are in street clothes. They aren't wearing uniforms, no badges, nothing to indicate they're official agents at all. If these people show up at night, I'd say open fire. They look like any other gang member. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MBech@feddit.dk 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Also, what's worse, getting deported into slavelabour or dying in your home, but getting to fire back against the SS, ups ICE? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago 100%. If I were American (I'm not), in my American home (also not), on American soil (again not) and the government decided I was too woke and wanted to deport me to a deathcamp out of country, I'd definitely choose the Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid ending. In fact, if this were happening in my town I might choose to go out slowly picking off as many ICE, government and police in their homes first. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago You would be put in prison, and the only hope of getting out is your revolution winning, taking power and absolving all the people who to action of their crimes. Think about it this way: The government is tyrannical, but they don’t see it that way. They don’t see your use of the 2nd amendment as “valid”, they see it as killing federal officials trying to do their job. Your only chance is change. permalink fedilink source parent [–] supamanc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) You would be labeled a terrorist, the ICE agents would become martyrs, and all future raids would be executed full SWAT style, with flashbangs, snipers, shoot to kill etc. They save a ton on deporting people, and get to straight up murder disidents in their home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago Trumps America is really incredible. People voted for this. Whenever you feel stupid like because you made a mistake or something, just remember that people voted for this, and then you don't have to feel so stupid anymore. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago Yeah, they're not gonna live to the next day, unless they get all of the agents. But they would be doing a net good to society. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Realistically, what would happen if ICE agents came in the middle of the night and a person were to completely gun them down? The videos I've seen the ICE agents are in street clothes. They aren't wearing uniforms, no badges, nothing to indicate they're official agents at all. If these people show up at night, I'd say open fire. They look like any other gang member. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MBech@feddit.dk 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Also, what's worse, getting deported into slavelabour or dying in your home, but getting to fire back against the SS, ups ICE? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago 100%. If I were American (I'm not), in my American home (also not), on American soil (again not) and the government decided I was too woke and wanted to deport me to a deathcamp out of country, I'd definitely choose the Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid ending. In fact, if this were happening in my town I might choose to go out slowly picking off as many ICE, government and police in their homes first. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MBech@feddit.dk 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Also, what's worse, getting deported into slavelabour or dying in your home, but getting to fire back against the SS, ups ICE? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago 100%. If I were American (I'm not), in my American home (also not), on American soil (again not) and the government decided I was too woke and wanted to deport me to a deathcamp out of country, I'd definitely choose the Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid ending. In fact, if this were happening in my town I might choose to go out slowly picking off as many ICE, government and police in their homes first. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago 100%. If I were American (I'm not), in my American home (also not), on American soil (again not) and the government decided I was too woke and wanted to deport me to a deathcamp out of country, I'd definitely choose the Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid ending. In fact, if this were happening in my town I might choose to go out slowly picking off as many ICE, government and police in their homes first. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago You would be put in prison, and the only hope of getting out is your revolution winning, taking power and absolving all the people who to action of their crimes. Think about it this way: The government is tyrannical, but they don’t see it that way. They don’t see your use of the 2nd amendment as “valid”, they see it as killing federal officials trying to do their job. Your only chance is change. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] supamanc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) You would be labeled a terrorist, the ICE agents would become martyrs, and all future raids would be executed full SWAT style, with flashbangs, snipers, shoot to kill etc. They save a ton on deporting people, and get to straight up murder disidents in their home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago Trumps America is really incredible. People voted for this. Whenever you feel stupid like because you made a mistake or something, just remember that people voted for this, and then you don't have to feel so stupid anymore. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago Trumps America is really incredible. People voted for this. Whenever you feel stupid like because you made a mistake or something, just remember that people voted for this, and then you don't have to feel so stupid anymore. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) The Venn diagram of those groups is a circle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Perhaps the outspoken ones from the past several decades. But there are plenty who don't out themselves, because they understand trigger discipline. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago Yes, indeed. 2A was written specifically for this situation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago Ammosexuals is what we call em permalink fedilink source parent [–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* That is objectively false. While most pro 2A people are rightwing, to say or even imply that it is all is ridiculous and counterproductive to resistance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DogWater@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago That's not true :) R/SocialistRA And r/liberalgunowners permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Perhaps the outspoken ones from the past several decades. But there are plenty who don't out themselves, because they understand trigger discipline. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago Yes, indeed. 2A was written specifically for this situation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago Ammosexuals is what we call em permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago Yes, indeed. 2A was written specifically for this situation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago Ammosexuals is what we call em permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* That is objectively false. While most pro 2A people are rightwing, to say or even imply that it is all is ridiculous and counterproductive to resistance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago That's not true :) R/SocialistRA And r/liberalgunowners permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Apple87sagan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) What are 2A people? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago Second Amendment, specifically the ones who have be very staunchly against government overreach (coincidentally, they've been largely conservative, and pro Fascist 47 - at least the loud online ones). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago Second Amendment, specifically the ones who have be very staunchly against government overreach (coincidentally, they've been largely conservative, and pro Fascist 47 - at least the loud online ones). permalink fedilink source parent