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US seizes nearly 1 million barrels of Iranian oil allegedly bound for China (www.cnn.com)
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[–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

You can tell from the comments in this post that Americans are immune to propaganda.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    In their view propaganda only comes from rouge nations, and their superior intellect safeguards them from the impact of foreign propaganda. Despite living in the worlds most propagandized country.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I somehow don't think the US is more propagandized than, say, North Korea. I want a source on this or I'm just going to assume you're pulling it out of your ass.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Yeah I'm pretty sure if I were being propagandized I would have heard about it on the news. In North Korea they believe that Kim Jong Un doesn't poop. And I know that's true because I saw it on the news.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm gonna go with that it's typically pulled out of their ass for some sweet dunking points

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There are two types of propaganda, the north Korean one which boils down to the party and leader who can do nothing wrong, and as a result there is only one truth, because the government controls it.

    The western method is to flood the person with a constant barrage of information, stimulus, and dopamine, it doesn't matters the subject "the conservatives are sucking off and swallowing the loads of corporations again" "some trannny will ask you to call him she, and eat your children" in this case the truth doesn't matter either, as truth has become another commodity to be bought as capital demands, you can buy your own truth, you can even get your own prophet, for the low price of 5 each month.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    The western method is to flood the person with a constant barrage of information, stimulus, and dopamine

    As depicted in Brave New World by Aldous Huxley

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  • [+] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    most is an overstatement. Yeah I think we are, it seems to take a lot of work to get past my American biases when reading world news. I could fall into "America Bad" leftist takes, and that would be just as lazy.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Probably. Since it's one with the least censorship, everyone needs to push more propaganda than the opposition...

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You believe the US is one with least censorship? Did they tell you that?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Guess it depends on what we call "censorship". Is it state enacted censorship of personal opinions? Is it censorship of porn? Is it how many reporters get killed each year?

    At least the US has the 1st amendment; a lot of countries don't, or circumvent free speech laws with censorship in one way or another (free speech for me, not for thee).

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-first-criminal-resolution-involving-illicit-sale-and-transport

    "In addition, pursuant to a deferred prosecution agreement (DPA) and a seizure warrant issued by the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, Empire Navigation, the operating company of the vessel carrying the contraband cargo, agreed to cooperate and transport the Iranian oil to the United States – an operation which has now concluded."

    Link came from this CNN article. Would you say that ignoring the facts of a situation and using it to push an agenda would be, perhaps, propaganda?

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    transport the Iranian oil to the United States

    So everyone is cool with the US taking stuff that isnt theirs?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You didn't answer my other question -- if China seized oil from an international shipping company, because China had sanctions against selling oil to the US after designated them a sponsor of terror, and a Chinese vessel was going to be used, would you be just as upset?

    Because I'm fine with the US seizing goods from a US ship if they're violating US trade sanctions -- just like I'm fine with China seizing goods from a Chinese ship if they're violating Chinese trade sanctions. If the company didn't want to have their cargo seized, they shouldn't have used a US/Chinese ship to act against US/Chinese sanctions.

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