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Communism bad (lemmygrad.ml)
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[–] -4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But if, deep inside, you want to overthrow the government, everyone will hate you and you'll be jailed or worse.

Don't you guys also want to overthrow a government?

Or, put otherwise, if you use the democratic mechanisms in place, it's all good. If you protest or demonstrate because you feel you aren't heard by the government, that'll usually have an effect.

Tell that to the people in china.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Don’t you guys also want to overthrow a government?

    According to communist theory, our current liberal governments are not democratic, because capital exerts control over them by various means. Thus, overthrowing them is necessary. Of course, if we had a democratic government, we wouldn't wish to overthrow it.

    Tell that to the people in china.

    If I'm not mistaken, there were extremely small-scale protests about COVID-19 measures and the government immediately listened and removed them.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Chinese people overwhelming support their government.

    Source: Harvard (We know how you western chauvinists don't trust anything from a non-euroamerikkkan source)

    In contrast to low US political approval ratings, 96% of Chinese are satisfied with the national government (Edelmans 2016). World Values Surveys says that 83% think the country is run for their benefit rather than for the benefit of special groups. A Harvard research center study of long-term public opinion survey finds that > 95% of Chinese citizens approved their government. How is this possible in a one-party state? (TED talk by Eric X Li)

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    On what basis do you call me a western chauvinist?

    America is in an active state of collapse. My own country England is also slowly declining or has at least lost its relevance. These and other countries like France have done large damage to the world through imperialism. These are all things I acknowledge.

    This is the problem I have with Marxists online. You can't actually discuss with someone you don't agree with without putting them into a box and making wild assumptions towards this end.

    I would say that it's all well and good for the people to approve of the government but this is meaningless when they lie and cover up information while committing crimes like attempted genocide and forced reeducation of minority groups.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    when they lie and cover up information while committing crimes like attempted genocide and forced reeducation of minority groups.

    Again, only the anglo countries think this is happening. The rest of the world, namely Muslim countries (especially those who would be receiving refugees were there a genocide) , and the Uyghur people themselves, disagree with you :

    "they lie", enough with the orientalism rudyard kipling. Anglos are the most racist people on the planet, and you need to shut your damn mouths before you spout orientalism.

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