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What is one moral you have that most people don't agree with? (lemmy.world)
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Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.

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Edit2: IP= intellectal property

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[–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

I do not really believe that there is such a thing as a "fate worse than death"

What about unimaginable suffering before one's certain death? Would this not qualify as a worse fate than death?

I don't really have a strong opinion on this topic, but one example comes to mind that shows that many people don't act according to your maxime. Have you ever seen those battlefield suicides that are filmed by the drones in Ukraine? I'm not going to link them here, but they are plentyful. So, so many soldiers, many of them wounded, decide to take their own life to avoid going through an experience that they probably view as worse than death. I just think it's interesting and worth considering.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think I alluded to this in one of my other responses, but I would hold that things like that are situations that the person involves thinks are worse than death, especially given that all they would be able to think about under those conditions is what they are or anticipate feeling rather than what death is. They may also simply have beliefs about death that are nicer than what I view it to be.

    A lot of the objection i get along those lines seems to be "But have you considered just how bad (horrible fate) is", when I totally acknowledge that there are some truly agonizing things that can happen to someone, my objection is simply that I believe death is just that bad.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think I understand your position.

    In a previous post, you seem to give value to functioning as opposed to being dead. Why is that? Why does functioning even matter if your position seems to be that death is the absolute worst thing that can happen to someone?

    because I believe that death is the least functional state a person can have and anything above that implies at least some functioning even if that state is still highly undesirable).

    A person can lose all brain functions and remain alive, implying that there is no chance of making new experiences of any kind. Does that count for you as functional?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I would consider brain death to be death, if thats what you mean, I had thought that was a common enough position that I didnt need to state it. I guess I should clarify that I meant mental function there rather that just one's bodily functions. If you irreparably lose all brain functions, your mind is gone, so "you" are dead even if some of your body's cells can be kept alive.

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