▲ 1111 ▼ California to negotiate trade with other countries to bypass Trump tariffs (www.newsweek.com) submitted 1 year ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 333 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 year ago (1 child) You're implying the constitution has any weight right now (it doesn't) I'd say fuckin do it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 child) It depends on who's breaking the law/constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago At this point it's hardly the law and the constitution. These are just unpredictable whims of the people in power. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 child) And it's the same for the European union. European states can't get trade agreements by themselves. So when you read "Italy is ready to talk with trump" is just sucking dick permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) Merkel had to explain that to Trump 11 times last time he was president. I bet he forgot it again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not really a matter of forgetting. Trump was a leading advocate for Brexit. He wants to see the EU dissolved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Putin does anyway and thus so does Trump permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago More than those two, by a long shot. The AfD, the Le Penns, Reform UK, the list goes on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children) California produces 10% of American agricultural needs. If they secede it would be way worse on the economy than these tariffs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Those 5 states would do just fine without the United States but the United states would be an unimportant backwater without them. well no, the US would still be 60-70% of the total US economy without them lmao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago an economy of whatever it currently does? I think you literally said it yourself, the handful of states are 30% the economy of the US total, the rest is still a thing, it's not going to disappear lmao. Idk how hard this is to understand. The US primarily exports high value goods and services, tech for example, not food. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago depending on which produce item its significantly higher permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ckjazz@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) I'm genuinely curious on how realistic this is... I can't imagine it's a simple process, but like what would need to happen for California to become it's own country? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago To do so legally, Constitutional Convention. 2/3 of states would have to agree to let it go. And everyone would have to hammer out what happens to federal assets inside the state. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago At the moment, California is taking signatures for studying a "CALexit" plan. It is about 500,000 signatures by July for a successful petition. After that, California starts to study the costs, opportunities, logistics, and other aspects of leaving the union. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* There is basically zero chance they successfully secede. There is however a slightly above zero chance they seriously try. California trying to secede would be stupid enough to make Trump look like a top mensa candidate. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago the same thing for texas to become it's own country, that said, it's not happening. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago The best I could tell from the article was that all he was doing was essentially lobbying foriegn countries to tailor their responses so that they hurt california less than other states. I can't see any law blocking that. From what I could tell he wasn't even offering anything real in exchange. permalink fedilink source parent [–] scala@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* Texas couldn't secede, probably because it's a red state..how amazing would it be if California became it's own country with actual progressive laws. I for one would allow it. Let them become Canada, Mexico or even it's own. Do it Cali! permalink fedilink source parent [–] interested_party@lemmy.org 2 points 1 year ago Let's do it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 year ago (1 child) You're implying the constitution has any weight right now (it doesn't) I'd say fuckin do it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 child) It depends on who's breaking the law/constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago At this point it's hardly the law and the constitution. These are just unpredictable whims of the people in power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 child) It depends on who's breaking the law/constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago At this point it's hardly the law and the constitution. These are just unpredictable whims of the people in power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago At this point it's hardly the law and the constitution. These are just unpredictable whims of the people in power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 child) And it's the same for the European union. European states can't get trade agreements by themselves. So when you read "Italy is ready to talk with trump" is just sucking dick permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) Merkel had to explain that to Trump 11 times last time he was president. I bet he forgot it again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not really a matter of forgetting. Trump was a leading advocate for Brexit. He wants to see the EU dissolved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Putin does anyway and thus so does Trump permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago More than those two, by a long shot. The AfD, the Le Penns, Reform UK, the list goes on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) Merkel had to explain that to Trump 11 times last time he was president. I bet he forgot it again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not really a matter of forgetting. Trump was a leading advocate for Brexit. He wants to see the EU dissolved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Putin does anyway and thus so does Trump permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago More than those two, by a long shot. The AfD, the Le Penns, Reform UK, the list goes on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not really a matter of forgetting. Trump was a leading advocate for Brexit. He wants to see the EU dissolved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Putin does anyway and thus so does Trump permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago More than those two, by a long shot. The AfD, the Le Penns, Reform UK, the list goes on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Putin does anyway and thus so does Trump permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago More than those two, by a long shot. The AfD, the Le Penns, Reform UK, the list goes on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago More than those two, by a long shot. The AfD, the Le Penns, Reform UK, the list goes on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children) California produces 10% of American agricultural needs. If they secede it would be way worse on the economy than these tariffs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Those 5 states would do just fine without the United States but the United states would be an unimportant backwater without them. well no, the US would still be 60-70% of the total US economy without them lmao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago an economy of whatever it currently does? I think you literally said it yourself, the handful of states are 30% the economy of the US total, the rest is still a thing, it's not going to disappear lmao. Idk how hard this is to understand. The US primarily exports high value goods and services, tech for example, not food. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago depending on which produce item its significantly higher permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ckjazz@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) I'm genuinely curious on how realistic this is... I can't imagine it's a simple process, but like what would need to happen for California to become it's own country? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago To do so legally, Constitutional Convention. 2/3 of states would have to agree to let it go. And everyone would have to hammer out what happens to federal assets inside the state. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago At the moment, California is taking signatures for studying a "CALexit" plan. It is about 500,000 signatures by July for a successful petition. After that, California starts to study the costs, opportunities, logistics, and other aspects of leaving the union. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* There is basically zero chance they successfully secede. There is however a slightly above zero chance they seriously try. California trying to secede would be stupid enough to make Trump look like a top mensa candidate. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago the same thing for texas to become it's own country, that said, it's not happening. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Those 5 states would do just fine without the United States but the United states would be an unimportant backwater without them. well no, the US would still be 60-70% of the total US economy without them lmao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago an economy of whatever it currently does? I think you literally said it yourself, the handful of states are 30% the economy of the US total, the rest is still a thing, it's not going to disappear lmao. Idk how hard this is to understand. The US primarily exports high value goods and services, tech for example, not food. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Those 5 states would do just fine without the United States but the United states would be an unimportant backwater without them. well no, the US would still be 60-70% of the total US economy without them lmao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago an economy of whatever it currently does? I think you literally said it yourself, the handful of states are 30% the economy of the US total, the rest is still a thing, it's not going to disappear lmao. Idk how hard this is to understand. The US primarily exports high value goods and services, tech for example, not food. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago an economy of whatever it currently does? I think you literally said it yourself, the handful of states are 30% the economy of the US total, the rest is still a thing, it's not going to disappear lmao. Idk how hard this is to understand. The US primarily exports high value goods and services, tech for example, not food. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago an economy of whatever it currently does? I think you literally said it yourself, the handful of states are 30% the economy of the US total, the rest is still a thing, it's not going to disappear lmao. Idk how hard this is to understand. The US primarily exports high value goods and services, tech for example, not food. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago depending on which produce item its significantly higher permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ckjazz@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) I'm genuinely curious on how realistic this is... I can't imagine it's a simple process, but like what would need to happen for California to become it's own country? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago To do so legally, Constitutional Convention. 2/3 of states would have to agree to let it go. And everyone would have to hammer out what happens to federal assets inside the state. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago At the moment, California is taking signatures for studying a "CALexit" plan. It is about 500,000 signatures by July for a successful petition. After that, California starts to study the costs, opportunities, logistics, and other aspects of leaving the union. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* There is basically zero chance they successfully secede. There is however a slightly above zero chance they seriously try. California trying to secede would be stupid enough to make Trump look like a top mensa candidate. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago the same thing for texas to become it's own country, that said, it's not happening. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago To do so legally, Constitutional Convention. 2/3 of states would have to agree to let it go. And everyone would have to hammer out what happens to federal assets inside the state. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago At the moment, California is taking signatures for studying a "CALexit" plan. It is about 500,000 signatures by July for a successful petition. After that, California starts to study the costs, opportunities, logistics, and other aspects of leaving the union. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* There is basically zero chance they successfully secede. There is however a slightly above zero chance they seriously try. California trying to secede would be stupid enough to make Trump look like a top mensa candidate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago the same thing for texas to become it's own country, that said, it's not happening. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago The best I could tell from the article was that all he was doing was essentially lobbying foriegn countries to tailor their responses so that they hurt california less than other states. I can't see any law blocking that. From what I could tell he wasn't even offering anything real in exchange. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scala@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* Texas couldn't secede, probably because it's a red state..how amazing would it be if California became it's own country with actual progressive laws. I for one would allow it. Let them become Canada, Mexico or even it's own. Do it Cali! permalink fedilink source parent