▲ 813 ▼ Barack Obama Is Also Scared Shitless That Donald Trump Could Win Another Term: Report (www.vanityfair.com) submitted 3 years ago by eurekaphoenix@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 371 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 53 points 3 years ago (1 child) Education is the only way to overcome this tsunami of stupidity and misinformation. But it’s slow and costly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yesman@lemmy.world 27 points 3 years ago (2 children) Conservatives with a capital "c" are not brainwashed; they're not tricked; they're not progressives who've been misinformed. Trump is who they are and what they want. The Dominion discovery documents demonstrate that Fox News opinion hacks changed their coverage to appease the deplorables. In the case of the big lie, it was the viewers who radicalized right media, not the other way round. Maybe it's been that way the whole time? The deplorables number in the millions. We need a plan to defeat and marginalize them in our democracy, not fantasies about changing what they are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PupBiru@kbin.social 14 points 3 years ago i’m not so sure it’s just evil people being evil i think it’s just us vs them, which basically has roots in greed, power over others, etc i think you could probably overturn those things with better instilled skills of long term planning, understanding of things like game theory (sometimes giving something to someone helps both of you! it’s not rewarding laziness: it can be selfish and humane) i just think the reasoning here doesn’t go further than the initial emotion… there’s been no reinforcement that maybe your first reaction isn’t the right one permalink fedilink source parent [–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'm going to go ahead and assume you're not from middle America. It's a lot more than just shitty people being shitty. This Cracked article from 2016 explains it quite well and I can assure you, as someone who was born and raised and now lives in Trump country, it still holds up. Add seven years of aggressive propaganda and intense radicalization and here we are now. The populist to fascist pipeline is almost complete. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago Thanks for reminding me of how good David Wong used to be at capturing popular thought and placing you into a certain perspective. I might not agree with some of the generalizations of that article, but it does help understand their perspective. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yesman@lemmy.world 27 points 3 years ago (2 children) Conservatives with a capital "c" are not brainwashed; they're not tricked; they're not progressives who've been misinformed. Trump is who they are and what they want. The Dominion discovery documents demonstrate that Fox News opinion hacks changed their coverage to appease the deplorables. In the case of the big lie, it was the viewers who radicalized right media, not the other way round. Maybe it's been that way the whole time? The deplorables number in the millions. We need a plan to defeat and marginalize them in our democracy, not fantasies about changing what they are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PupBiru@kbin.social 14 points 3 years ago i’m not so sure it’s just evil people being evil i think it’s just us vs them, which basically has roots in greed, power over others, etc i think you could probably overturn those things with better instilled skills of long term planning, understanding of things like game theory (sometimes giving something to someone helps both of you! it’s not rewarding laziness: it can be selfish and humane) i just think the reasoning here doesn’t go further than the initial emotion… there’s been no reinforcement that maybe your first reaction isn’t the right one permalink fedilink source parent [–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'm going to go ahead and assume you're not from middle America. It's a lot more than just shitty people being shitty. This Cracked article from 2016 explains it quite well and I can assure you, as someone who was born and raised and now lives in Trump country, it still holds up. Add seven years of aggressive propaganda and intense radicalization and here we are now. The populist to fascist pipeline is almost complete. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago Thanks for reminding me of how good David Wong used to be at capturing popular thought and placing you into a certain perspective. I might not agree with some of the generalizations of that article, but it does help understand their perspective. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 14 points 3 years ago i’m not so sure it’s just evil people being evil i think it’s just us vs them, which basically has roots in greed, power over others, etc i think you could probably overturn those things with better instilled skills of long term planning, understanding of things like game theory (sometimes giving something to someone helps both of you! it’s not rewarding laziness: it can be selfish and humane) i just think the reasoning here doesn’t go further than the initial emotion… there’s been no reinforcement that maybe your first reaction isn’t the right one permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'm going to go ahead and assume you're not from middle America. It's a lot more than just shitty people being shitty. This Cracked article from 2016 explains it quite well and I can assure you, as someone who was born and raised and now lives in Trump country, it still holds up. Add seven years of aggressive propaganda and intense radicalization and here we are now. The populist to fascist pipeline is almost complete. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago Thanks for reminding me of how good David Wong used to be at capturing popular thought and placing you into a certain perspective. I might not agree with some of the generalizations of that article, but it does help understand their perspective. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago Thanks for reminding me of how good David Wong used to be at capturing popular thought and placing you into a certain perspective. I might not agree with some of the generalizations of that article, but it does help understand their perspective. permalink fedilink source parent