▲ 1385 ▼ Penn Jillette is No Longer A Libertarian (lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz) submitted 1 year ago by BigHeadMode@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 397 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] vvilld@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not arguing anything about the modern meaning. I'm providing historical context as to where the word comes from, and correcting the previous commenter who was asserting 'libertarian' had no connection to socialist political theory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) One could argue that many modern right wing libertarians are closer to anarchism than some of their left wing equivalents. Back when I was on reddit there was much discussion of what they called watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside. Meaning they presented themselves as anti authoritarian but in reality wanted to use the power of the state to enforce their ideal version of societal freedom. There are also differences in how the words are understood today in different places - Europe, the US, other places in the world. I did commend your historical representation btw. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vvilld@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) One could argue that many modern right wing libertarians are closer to anarchism than some of their left wing equivalents. Only if you don't understand what right-wing libertarianism is. It is 100% reliant on the state monopoly on violence and coercive authoritarianism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 point 1 year ago Only if you paint with broad strokes. They are more diverse than that, and some are very anti government. The same is true of those more on the Left. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) One could argue that many modern right wing libertarians are closer to anarchism than some of their left wing equivalents. Back when I was on reddit there was much discussion of what they called watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside. Meaning they presented themselves as anti authoritarian but in reality wanted to use the power of the state to enforce their ideal version of societal freedom. There are also differences in how the words are understood today in different places - Europe, the US, other places in the world. I did commend your historical representation btw. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vvilld@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) One could argue that many modern right wing libertarians are closer to anarchism than some of their left wing equivalents. Only if you don't understand what right-wing libertarianism is. It is 100% reliant on the state monopoly on violence and coercive authoritarianism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 point 1 year ago Only if you paint with broad strokes. They are more diverse than that, and some are very anti government. The same is true of those more on the Left. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vvilld@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) One could argue that many modern right wing libertarians are closer to anarchism than some of their left wing equivalents. Only if you don't understand what right-wing libertarianism is. It is 100% reliant on the state monopoly on violence and coercive authoritarianism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 point 1 year ago Only if you paint with broad strokes. They are more diverse than that, and some are very anti government. The same is true of those more on the Left. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 point 1 year ago Only if you paint with broad strokes. They are more diverse than that, and some are very anti government. The same is true of those more on the Left. permalink fedilink source parent