▲ 1345 ▼ As top Trump aides sent texts on Signal, flight data show a member of the group chat was in Russia (www.cbsnews.com) submitted 1 year ago by kevowej635@lemmy.wtf to c/world@lemmy.world 146 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 1 year ago (3 children) It also goes to show that Signal may actually be worth its salt in regards to security. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] booly@sh.itjust.works 72 points 1 year ago You use Signal to avoid government surveillance. I use Signal to avoid government accountability. We are not the same. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 7 points 1 year ago Well I use it and have put it on relatives phones so they can communicate with me easily, ideally though I'd use Threema but yeah signals a lot better than other free alternatives. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Doesn't matter if the phone is rooted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Rooted phones with signal are more secure or less secure? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Less. If someone has root privs on your phone they can screenshot without your notice and send those shots wherever they want, encryption or self-deleting messaging apps be damned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) So if Google has root privileges (does it automatically on Android? ) then they can screenshot whatever they like? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago I mean, they provide the operating system and push updates to your phone via a trusted channel, so yeah you're kinda extending them 100% trust already. I'm more thinking about malware authors here though; criminals or governments (or criminal governments) slipping shady shit onto your phone without your noticing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] seeigel@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Important reminder. Why is this downvoted? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago Because it's largely irrelevant? If someone says "This is the best lock you can use on your front door" and someone else replies "not if you leave the key in the lock" do you think that's a important thing to mention? No lock is safe if you leave the key in the lock. Maybe it's important to remind people that you shouldn't leave your key in the lock, but that statement says nothing about the security of the lock. Similarly maybe it's important to remind people that their phones might already be rooted, but that statement says nothing about whether Signal is good or bad from a security point of view. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 72 points 1 year ago You use Signal to avoid government surveillance. I use Signal to avoid government accountability. We are not the same. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 7 points 1 year ago Well I use it and have put it on relatives phones so they can communicate with me easily, ideally though I'd use Threema but yeah signals a lot better than other free alternatives. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Doesn't matter if the phone is rooted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Rooted phones with signal are more secure or less secure? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Less. If someone has root privs on your phone they can screenshot without your notice and send those shots wherever they want, encryption or self-deleting messaging apps be damned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) So if Google has root privileges (does it automatically on Android? ) then they can screenshot whatever they like? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago I mean, they provide the operating system and push updates to your phone via a trusted channel, so yeah you're kinda extending them 100% trust already. I'm more thinking about malware authors here though; criminals or governments (or criminal governments) slipping shady shit onto your phone without your noticing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] seeigel@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Important reminder. Why is this downvoted? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago Because it's largely irrelevant? If someone says "This is the best lock you can use on your front door" and someone else replies "not if you leave the key in the lock" do you think that's a important thing to mention? No lock is safe if you leave the key in the lock. Maybe it's important to remind people that you shouldn't leave your key in the lock, but that statement says nothing about the security of the lock. Similarly maybe it's important to remind people that their phones might already be rooted, but that statement says nothing about whether Signal is good or bad from a security point of view. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Rooted phones with signal are more secure or less secure? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Less. If someone has root privs on your phone they can screenshot without your notice and send those shots wherever they want, encryption or self-deleting messaging apps be damned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) So if Google has root privileges (does it automatically on Android? ) then they can screenshot whatever they like? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago I mean, they provide the operating system and push updates to your phone via a trusted channel, so yeah you're kinda extending them 100% trust already. I'm more thinking about malware authors here though; criminals or governments (or criminal governments) slipping shady shit onto your phone without your noticing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Less. If someone has root privs on your phone they can screenshot without your notice and send those shots wherever they want, encryption or self-deleting messaging apps be damned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) So if Google has root privileges (does it automatically on Android? ) then they can screenshot whatever they like? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago I mean, they provide the operating system and push updates to your phone via a trusted channel, so yeah you're kinda extending them 100% trust already. I'm more thinking about malware authors here though; criminals or governments (or criminal governments) slipping shady shit onto your phone without your noticing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) So if Google has root privileges (does it automatically on Android? ) then they can screenshot whatever they like? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago I mean, they provide the operating system and push updates to your phone via a trusted channel, so yeah you're kinda extending them 100% trust already. I'm more thinking about malware authors here though; criminals or governments (or criminal governments) slipping shady shit onto your phone without your noticing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago I mean, they provide the operating system and push updates to your phone via a trusted channel, so yeah you're kinda extending them 100% trust already. I'm more thinking about malware authors here though; criminals or governments (or criminal governments) slipping shady shit onto your phone without your noticing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] seeigel@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Important reminder. Why is this downvoted? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago Because it's largely irrelevant? If someone says "This is the best lock you can use on your front door" and someone else replies "not if you leave the key in the lock" do you think that's a important thing to mention? No lock is safe if you leave the key in the lock. Maybe it's important to remind people that you shouldn't leave your key in the lock, but that statement says nothing about the security of the lock. Similarly maybe it's important to remind people that their phones might already be rooted, but that statement says nothing about whether Signal is good or bad from a security point of view. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago Because it's largely irrelevant? If someone says "This is the best lock you can use on your front door" and someone else replies "not if you leave the key in the lock" do you think that's a important thing to mention? No lock is safe if you leave the key in the lock. Maybe it's important to remind people that you shouldn't leave your key in the lock, but that statement says nothing about the security of the lock. Similarly maybe it's important to remind people that their phones might already be rooted, but that statement says nothing about whether Signal is good or bad from a security point of view. permalink fedilink source parent