▲ 1245 ▼ Brian Eno: “The biggest problem about AI is not intrinsic to AI. It’s to do with the fact that it’s owned by the same few people” (musictech.com) submitted 1 year ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 140 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] pennomi@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 72 points 1 year ago (1 child) So far, the result seems to be "it's okay when they do it" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago Yeah... Nothing to see here, people, go home, work harder, exercise, and don't forget to eat your vegetables. Of course, family first and god bless you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Electricblush@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I would agree with you if the same companies challenging copyright (protecting the intellectual and creative work of "normies") are not also aggressively welding copyright against the same people they are stealing from. With the amount of coprorate power tightly integrated with the governmental bodies in the US (and now with Doge dismantling oversight) I fear that whatever comes out of this is humans own nothing, corporations own everything. Death of free independent thought and creativity. Everything you do, say and create is instantly marketable, sellable by the major corporations and you get nothing in return. The world needs something a lot more drastic then a copyright reform at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cyd@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago It's seldom the same companies, though; there are two camps fighting each other, like Gozilla vs Mothra. permalink fedilink source parent [–] naught@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (2 children) AI scrapers illegally harvesting data are destroying smaller and open source projects. Copyright law is not the only victim https://thelibre.news/foss-infrastructure-is-under-attack-by-ai-companies/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cyd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) That article is overblown. People need to configure their websites to be more robust against traffic spikes, news at 11. Disrespecting robots.txt is bad netiquette, but honestly this sort of gentleman's agreement is always prone to cheating. At the end of the day, when you put something on the net for people to access, you have to assume anyone (or anything) can try to access it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] naught@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago You think Red Hat & friends are just all bad sysadmins? Source hut maybe... I think there's a bit of both: poorly optimized/antiquated sites and a gigantic spike in unexpected and persistent bot traffic. The typical mitigations do not work anymore. Not every site is and not every site should have to be optimized for hundreds of thousands of requests every day or more. Just because they can be doesn't mean that it's worth the time effort or cost. permalink fedilink source parent [–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) In this case they just need to publish the code as a torrent. You wouldn't setup a crawler if there was all the data in a torrent swarm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago I've heard stuff like bittorent doesn't work well when the data is often updated or changed I might be totally wrong, I've only ever used it once when downloading Wikipedia permalink fedilink source parent
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 72 points 1 year ago (1 child) So far, the result seems to be "it's okay when they do it" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago Yeah... Nothing to see here, people, go home, work harder, exercise, and don't forget to eat your vegetables. Of course, family first and god bless you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago Yeah... Nothing to see here, people, go home, work harder, exercise, and don't forget to eat your vegetables. Of course, family first and god bless you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Electricblush@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I would agree with you if the same companies challenging copyright (protecting the intellectual and creative work of "normies") are not also aggressively welding copyright against the same people they are stealing from. With the amount of coprorate power tightly integrated with the governmental bodies in the US (and now with Doge dismantling oversight) I fear that whatever comes out of this is humans own nothing, corporations own everything. Death of free independent thought and creativity. Everything you do, say and create is instantly marketable, sellable by the major corporations and you get nothing in return. The world needs something a lot more drastic then a copyright reform at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cyd@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago It's seldom the same companies, though; there are two camps fighting each other, like Gozilla vs Mothra. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cyd@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago It's seldom the same companies, though; there are two camps fighting each other, like Gozilla vs Mothra. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (2 children) AI scrapers illegally harvesting data are destroying smaller and open source projects. Copyright law is not the only victim https://thelibre.news/foss-infrastructure-is-under-attack-by-ai-companies/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cyd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) That article is overblown. People need to configure their websites to be more robust against traffic spikes, news at 11. Disrespecting robots.txt is bad netiquette, but honestly this sort of gentleman's agreement is always prone to cheating. At the end of the day, when you put something on the net for people to access, you have to assume anyone (or anything) can try to access it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] naught@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago You think Red Hat & friends are just all bad sysadmins? Source hut maybe... I think there's a bit of both: poorly optimized/antiquated sites and a gigantic spike in unexpected and persistent bot traffic. The typical mitigations do not work anymore. Not every site is and not every site should have to be optimized for hundreds of thousands of requests every day or more. Just because they can be doesn't mean that it's worth the time effort or cost. permalink fedilink source parent [–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) In this case they just need to publish the code as a torrent. You wouldn't setup a crawler if there was all the data in a torrent swarm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago I've heard stuff like bittorent doesn't work well when the data is often updated or changed I might be totally wrong, I've only ever used it once when downloading Wikipedia permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cyd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) That article is overblown. People need to configure their websites to be more robust against traffic spikes, news at 11. Disrespecting robots.txt is bad netiquette, but honestly this sort of gentleman's agreement is always prone to cheating. At the end of the day, when you put something on the net for people to access, you have to assume anyone (or anything) can try to access it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] naught@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago You think Red Hat & friends are just all bad sysadmins? Source hut maybe... I think there's a bit of both: poorly optimized/antiquated sites and a gigantic spike in unexpected and persistent bot traffic. The typical mitigations do not work anymore. Not every site is and not every site should have to be optimized for hundreds of thousands of requests every day or more. Just because they can be doesn't mean that it's worth the time effort or cost. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago You think Red Hat & friends are just all bad sysadmins? Source hut maybe... I think there's a bit of both: poorly optimized/antiquated sites and a gigantic spike in unexpected and persistent bot traffic. The typical mitigations do not work anymore. Not every site is and not every site should have to be optimized for hundreds of thousands of requests every day or more. Just because they can be doesn't mean that it's worth the time effort or cost. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) In this case they just need to publish the code as a torrent. You wouldn't setup a crawler if there was all the data in a torrent swarm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago I've heard stuff like bittorent doesn't work well when the data is often updated or changed I might be totally wrong, I've only ever used it once when downloading Wikipedia permalink fedilink source parent
[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago I've heard stuff like bittorent doesn't work well when the data is often updated or changed I might be totally wrong, I've only ever used it once when downloading Wikipedia permalink fedilink source parent