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[–] 10 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

Can't we just vote for younger candidates?

Doesn't make sense to subvert the will of the people when they clearly support this.

Also, her age isn't what makes her shit. She's a corporate democrat just looking out for different rich people.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    The problem is that this isn’t the will of the people. Preliminaries don’t count as an election so your vote for which candidate that appears on the actual ballot is just a suggestion.

    The party committees gets final say on who’s on the ballot for that party to vote for.

    Which leads to the problem of the 2 party system where we vote for the least worst candidate

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Then vote for independents, or people whose parties don't pull that shit.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    And that is the problem with the 2 party system. No one votes that way because not enough people do. Instead everyone voted for less bad option between the 2 major parties. Which happen to be the choices the political committee chose, not the people.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yeah, you might as well not vote. You're never going to sway enough people to vote independent to challenge one of the big two, especially since the choice right now is between old people or people trying to establish a fascist theocracy.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You're absolutely right.

    Collectively we vote for the representation we deserve.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Maybe in a true democracy. No more gerrymandered districts, ranked choice voting, and term limits would be a good start. Let's kill citizens united while at it.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    In a true democracy, we'd have direct voting.

    Which I'm a huge fan of. Not sure why we'd vote for people who won't agree with us on everything when we can just vote ourselves and get true representation.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I’d prefer a republic, what the hell do I know about complex foreign policies with the relationship between Sudan and Egypt, or which tax policy will spur economic growth?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    That's fine. Just don't complain when the people you elect go against what you think is right.

    Personally, I think direct voting would result in people voting for the matters they care about, while ignoring the ones they don't.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Nah, I blame the Republicans for most of the nations current woes since, you know, they tend to be behind most of them.

    Plus, how can you see how the average American acts and think we’re still good for a democracy? We need a more fitting class of people to rule, as Adams and Hamilton envisioned it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Republicans are mostly to blame. Democrats are just the lesser evil.

    Lo' and behold, evil is still evil.

    It doesn't make sense to support the lesser evil when you could support no evil at all.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Aren’t you so lucky to be someone who can choose to sit on the fence and not suffer the consequences. Do you understand idiotic that statement is?

    Jesus Christ, I hate to do Godwins Law here but just because when you have one side that is Nazi Germany that wants to dominate the world, kill all the undesirables, all that good stuff. Then you take a gander at the British; sure, they are a world colonial empire that deserves to be shattered but they are a democracy that DOESN’T dream of world conquest and killing everyone on earth, so any nonbraindead person would pick the side of the “br’ish”.

    And you, over there just sitting there thinking “heh, one side has a small amount of evil while the other is the embodiment of evil so I’m going to do nothing.”

    Sure, an extreme example, but the principal is the exact same.

    Take Civil Rights, just because sometimes the civil rights people may be annoying and rarely takes a few things too far DOESN’T mean they’re the same as the horrific segregationists and the KKK, who’ll kill and lynch whoever they don’t like.

    Please, grow and learn.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Imagine going “My choices are between the Nazis or the British Empire” and thinking the answer is one of them and not burning the whole thing down if that’s the best it can offer you.

    You get what you settle for.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Between their shenanigans in India and Ireland the British empire was arguably worse than nazi Germany lmao what a dumb analogy

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You really are a dumbass, aren’t ya? Making an argument that the Nazis were all that bad.

    I suppose that’s fair, any concession, no matter how small, will constitute a defeat to your side so you must stand your ground and defend the undefendable.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Oh the nazis were horrible. The British empire was worse. The Indian famine, intentionally caused by the crown, killed almost 11 million people. Why are you downplaying genocide? Couldn't you pick a country that didn't kill an equal amount of people as the nazis during the same time period to play the "good guys" in your scenario?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hey stupid, the Nazis killed 6 million Jews, they killed about 11 million in the concentration camps. Imagine how many would be dead if they enacted Generalost Plan.

    Fucking dipshit.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    So killing 11 million people is bad, right? If yes, why are you ok with the British empire doing it? It's equal parts gross and hilarious that you're downplaying their attempts at genocide by using them as the good guys in your scenario.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    I disagree. Fundamentally we have the final authority to elect our representation. Collectively we decide (and are ultimately responsible for) who is elected to office. Districts don't vote, and corporations don't vote. The people do.

    It is the collective responsibility of those not disenfranchised or otherwise excluded from the political system to rectify those problems. Failing to address those problems (or any political problem) isn't a failure of the politicians--it's a failure of us, as a collective, to choose the appropriate lawmakers. Especially when we repeatedly elect the same people over and over.

    I know it sounds naive to frame the system this way. But fundamentally the political system operates under the collective authority of voters.

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