▲ 783 ▼ Finnish parliament drops Pepsi as fallout continues from its addition to international sponsors of war list (english.nv.ua) submitted 2 years ago by alphacyberranger@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 131 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] frododouchebaggins@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (4 children) Anyone who works to maximize equality is a good guy and anyone who works to maximize inequality is a bad guy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] cynetri@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] cynetri@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Depends on how you want to maximize equality. Nazi Germany maximized it by eliminating everyone else lol. Probably not a good guy. :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Omniraptor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No they definitely had plans to leave some untermenschen alive as slaves. I wouldn't call that maximizing equality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago They've simply been promoted to living to serve the remainder of the population! (I'm just using the playbook from every movie for evil dictator justifications. Absolutely don't think this at all btw. Big /s after these statements if it wasn't clear. ) permalink fedilink source parent [–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure I follow your logic here. What equality was gained by the victims of the Holocaust? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The idea is that the Nazis tried to create in their perverse fucked up way technical equality by exterminating everyone else that didn't conform to their vision and everyone else was equally removed from existence. Thus not all methods of getting to equality are valid or good and we should be careful about saying all methods of creating equality or mandating it are good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The logic I don't follow is how killing some people and not killing others is in any way an application of equality. They decided that the people they killed were unequal. Like, the logic of your individual points makes sense, but it's the overall logic of your argument that I can't follow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago By killing everyone else except they considered acceptable it leaves only equality left. One of their goals was to remove everyone else who didn't fit into their vision leaving only those left. It's similar to the policies that mandate various under represented groups are the only ones able to partake in various activities. Both are shitty methods of creating equal outcomes just... One is far more lethal and terrible obviously. But the same flawed logic trying to force an outcome. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hypelightfly@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think you know what the word specifically means. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I think my point is obvious enough to be understood without getting bogged down in the pedantry of equity vs equality, but if you want to start that discussion you are welcome to provide some definitions :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (4 children) Anyone who works to maximize equality is a good guy and anyone who works to maximize inequality is a bad guy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] cynetri@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] cynetri@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Depends on how you want to maximize equality. Nazi Germany maximized it by eliminating everyone else lol. Probably not a good guy. :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Omniraptor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No they definitely had plans to leave some untermenschen alive as slaves. I wouldn't call that maximizing equality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago They've simply been promoted to living to serve the remainder of the population! (I'm just using the playbook from every movie for evil dictator justifications. Absolutely don't think this at all btw. Big /s after these statements if it wasn't clear. ) permalink fedilink source parent [–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure I follow your logic here. What equality was gained by the victims of the Holocaust? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The idea is that the Nazis tried to create in their perverse fucked up way technical equality by exterminating everyone else that didn't conform to their vision and everyone else was equally removed from existence. Thus not all methods of getting to equality are valid or good and we should be careful about saying all methods of creating equality or mandating it are good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The logic I don't follow is how killing some people and not killing others is in any way an application of equality. They decided that the people they killed were unequal. Like, the logic of your individual points makes sense, but it's the overall logic of your argument that I can't follow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago By killing everyone else except they considered acceptable it leaves only equality left. One of their goals was to remove everyone else who didn't fit into their vision leaving only those left. It's similar to the policies that mandate various under represented groups are the only ones able to partake in various activities. Both are shitty methods of creating equal outcomes just... One is far more lethal and terrible obviously. But the same flawed logic trying to force an outcome. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hypelightfly@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think you know what the word specifically means. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I think my point is obvious enough to be understood without getting bogged down in the pedantry of equity vs equality, but if you want to start that discussion you are welcome to provide some definitions :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Depends on how you want to maximize equality. Nazi Germany maximized it by eliminating everyone else lol. Probably not a good guy. :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Omniraptor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No they definitely had plans to leave some untermenschen alive as slaves. I wouldn't call that maximizing equality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago They've simply been promoted to living to serve the remainder of the population! (I'm just using the playbook from every movie for evil dictator justifications. Absolutely don't think this at all btw. Big /s after these statements if it wasn't clear. ) permalink fedilink source parent [–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure I follow your logic here. What equality was gained by the victims of the Holocaust? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The idea is that the Nazis tried to create in their perverse fucked up way technical equality by exterminating everyone else that didn't conform to their vision and everyone else was equally removed from existence. Thus not all methods of getting to equality are valid or good and we should be careful about saying all methods of creating equality or mandating it are good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The logic I don't follow is how killing some people and not killing others is in any way an application of equality. They decided that the people they killed were unequal. Like, the logic of your individual points makes sense, but it's the overall logic of your argument that I can't follow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago By killing everyone else except they considered acceptable it leaves only equality left. One of their goals was to remove everyone else who didn't fit into their vision leaving only those left. It's similar to the policies that mandate various under represented groups are the only ones able to partake in various activities. Both are shitty methods of creating equal outcomes just... One is far more lethal and terrible obviously. But the same flawed logic trying to force an outcome. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Omniraptor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No they definitely had plans to leave some untermenschen alive as slaves. I wouldn't call that maximizing equality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago They've simply been promoted to living to serve the remainder of the population! (I'm just using the playbook from every movie for evil dictator justifications. Absolutely don't think this at all btw. Big /s after these statements if it wasn't clear. ) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago They've simply been promoted to living to serve the remainder of the population! (I'm just using the playbook from every movie for evil dictator justifications. Absolutely don't think this at all btw. Big /s after these statements if it wasn't clear. ) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure I follow your logic here. What equality was gained by the victims of the Holocaust? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The idea is that the Nazis tried to create in their perverse fucked up way technical equality by exterminating everyone else that didn't conform to their vision and everyone else was equally removed from existence. Thus not all methods of getting to equality are valid or good and we should be careful about saying all methods of creating equality or mandating it are good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The logic I don't follow is how killing some people and not killing others is in any way an application of equality. They decided that the people they killed were unequal. Like, the logic of your individual points makes sense, but it's the overall logic of your argument that I can't follow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago By killing everyone else except they considered acceptable it leaves only equality left. One of their goals was to remove everyone else who didn't fit into their vision leaving only those left. It's similar to the policies that mandate various under represented groups are the only ones able to partake in various activities. Both are shitty methods of creating equal outcomes just... One is far more lethal and terrible obviously. But the same flawed logic trying to force an outcome. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The idea is that the Nazis tried to create in their perverse fucked up way technical equality by exterminating everyone else that didn't conform to their vision and everyone else was equally removed from existence. Thus not all methods of getting to equality are valid or good and we should be careful about saying all methods of creating equality or mandating it are good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The logic I don't follow is how killing some people and not killing others is in any way an application of equality. They decided that the people they killed were unequal. Like, the logic of your individual points makes sense, but it's the overall logic of your argument that I can't follow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago By killing everyone else except they considered acceptable it leaves only equality left. One of their goals was to remove everyone else who didn't fit into their vision leaving only those left. It's similar to the policies that mandate various under represented groups are the only ones able to partake in various activities. Both are shitty methods of creating equal outcomes just... One is far more lethal and terrible obviously. But the same flawed logic trying to force an outcome. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The logic I don't follow is how killing some people and not killing others is in any way an application of equality. They decided that the people they killed were unequal. Like, the logic of your individual points makes sense, but it's the overall logic of your argument that I can't follow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago By killing everyone else except they considered acceptable it leaves only equality left. One of their goals was to remove everyone else who didn't fit into their vision leaving only those left. It's similar to the policies that mandate various under represented groups are the only ones able to partake in various activities. Both are shitty methods of creating equal outcomes just... One is far more lethal and terrible obviously. But the same flawed logic trying to force an outcome. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 point 2 years ago By killing everyone else except they considered acceptable it leaves only equality left. One of their goals was to remove everyone else who didn't fit into their vision leaving only those left. It's similar to the policies that mandate various under represented groups are the only ones able to partake in various activities. Both are shitty methods of creating equal outcomes just... One is far more lethal and terrible obviously. But the same flawed logic trying to force an outcome. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hypelightfly@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think you know what the word specifically means. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I think my point is obvious enough to be understood without getting bogged down in the pedantry of equity vs equality, but if you want to start that discussion you are welcome to provide some definitions :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I think my point is obvious enough to be understood without getting bogged down in the pedantry of equity vs equality, but if you want to start that discussion you are welcome to provide some definitions :) permalink fedilink source parent