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"We are going to put Satanic chaplains in Florida schools, nothing in the bill places limits on who can become a chaplain, and Ron DeSantis can not simply amend the Constitution limiting the religious (hellions.cloud)
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"We are going to put Satanic chaplains in Florida schools, nothing in the bill places limits on who can become a chaplain, and Ron DeSantis can not simply amend the Constitution limiting the religious liberty of some by proclamation from the podium. "

excellent, yes. exactly. @thesatanictemple

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/desantis-says-satanism-is-not-real-and-not-qualifying-for-new-florida-school-chaplain-program/

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[–] 0 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

So, there's a lot of confusion about what TST is and what it does.

TST exists as a church for Satanism. Its activism is (primarily) based around fighting for the rights of Satanists.

If TST didn't need to fight for the rights of Satanists, it would still need to exist for every other reason that a church exists.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    We're talking about the satanic temple here right? It's just a cooler version of pastafarism. That does community outreach mainly to battle the Christian bullshit.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is a common misconception. TST is not a joke or parody religion.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What makes you say that? Read their faq it spells it out clearly https://thesatanictemple.com/ the goal is to combat psuedo science Christian bullshit.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    They don't believe in a supernatural power, but they see themselves as a serious religion with serious beliefs. From your link:

    '[Satanism is] a narrative structure by which we contextualize our lives and works. ...[it is] a body of symbolism and religious practice — a sense of identity, culture, community, and shared values.'

    They have seven Tenets, none of which are directly about other religions - although one does mention being opposed to 'distorting scientific facts'. Most are about compassion and individuality.

    'Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought.'

    Agree with them or not, but they see themselves as much more than some kind of shell religion to undermine Religious Exemption statutes

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Well I do agree with them, I am a member. My point is they don't believe in western religious tenants like gods and afterlife. Also I'm pretty sure they were founded in a rebuttal to the scotus opinion that athesim isn't a religion and thus doesn't deserve religious protections.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    they don’t believe in western religious tenants like gods and afterlife

    Yeah, but their whole point is that this doesn't undermine their status as a religion. It doesn't make them 'a joke or parody religion', which is the phrase you initially replied to:

    This is a common misconception. TST is not a joke or parody religion.

    What makes you say that?

    They don't exist as a semi-serious troll organisation to undermine Christianity is my point, they take their beliefs and religious status seriously.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The thing is, I don’t see how the seven tenets should conflict with modern religions at all. It’s fully compatible with what Christianity claims to be. By all logic, following the Satanic tenets should make you a better Christian, a better human

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Christianity does not believe in bodily autonomy (tenet 3) or having your beliefs conform to the best scientific evidence (tenet 5). Even if it were 100% compatible with Christianity, though, that still wouldn't make it a parody religion.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think maybe you are confused. From their FAQ

    DO YOU WORSHIP SATAN? No, nor do we believe in the existence of Satan or the supernatural. The Satanic Temple believes that religion can, and should, be divorced from superstition. As such, we do not promote a belief in a personal Satan. To embrace the name Satan is to embrace rational inquiry removed from supernaturalism and archaic tradition-based superstitions. Satanists should actively work to hone critical thinking and exercise reasonable agnosticism in all things. Our beliefs must be malleable to the best current scientific understandings of the material world — never the reverse.

    There is a church of Satan, how they compare is here

    https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/about-us

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Also from their FAQ

    IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE SUPERNATURAL, HOW IS TST A RELIGION?

    The idea that religion belongs to supernaturalists is ignorant, backward, and offensive. The metaphorical Satanic construct is no more arbitrary to us than are the deeply held beliefs that we actively advocate. Are we supposed to believe that those who pledge submission to an ethereal supernatural deity hold to their values more deeply than we? Are we supposed to concede that only the superstitious are rightful recipients of religious exemption and privilege? Satanism provides all that a religion should be without a compulsory attachment to untenable items of faith-based belief. It provides a narrative structure by which we contextualize our lives and works. It also provides a body of symbolism and religious practice — a sense of identity, culture, community, and shared values.

    If you want to compare and contrast TST and the Church of Satan, there's an excellent in-depth article here.

    Neither one worships Satan. They are both religions. However, their values are very different.

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