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[–] TheTimeKnife@beehaw.org 52 points 2 years ago (4 children) Hope other browser developers realize chromium is a ticking time bomb. I've used firefox for over 15 years and see no reason to change with the current landscape of browsers being so reliant on google . permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Erdrick@beehaw.org 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Seriously… I’ve never once strayed from Firefox since its release. I’m forced to use chrome for work and it is crap. I guess that using safari on iOS devices is one exception, and it isn’t too bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wim@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've been using Firefox since it was called Phoenix. Mozilla, for all it's flaws, has been our first and only line of defense for an open web for so long. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NaoPb@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I think I started using it in the 1.x times. I remember all the flaws it's had since. I've given lots of other browsers a try in the meantime but none come close to Firefox. They might be good enough for others but for power users Firefox is the way to go. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Erdrick@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago Damn… I think I came on a bit later than that. I don’t recognize the icon of Phoenix so I doubt I made the switch that early on! permalink fedilink source parent [+] fasnix@dresden.network 4 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] lloram239@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I’ve used firefox for over 15 years and see no reason to change https://digdeeper.club/articles/mozilla.xhtml permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hare_ware@pawb.social 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Okay, but change to what then? All the other options are just Chrome, Safari, and Firefox again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lloram239@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Ungoogle-Chromium, Brave, Vivaldi, Librewolf, anything that isn't paid by Google. That they are still based on Chrome or Firefox doesn't really matter, since they remove the undesirable parts of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] unfnknblvbl@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago they are still based on Chrome or Firefox doesn't really matter, since they remove the undesirable parts of them. Actually it does matter, since Google are killing off the ability for ad blockers to work with a new manifest specification in Chromium. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eleanor@social.hamington.net 6 points 2 years ago In the case of Brave and Vivaldi, they add their own undesirable parts (Brave adds crypto bullshit and Vivaldi is closed-source, so $DEITY knows what they're adding). Librewolf is open and doesn't contribute to the Chromium monoculture; so it's the best option permalink fedilink source parent [–] Leafeytea@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* Librewolf https://www.torproject.org/ https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/tor-browser permalink fedilink source parent [–] comicallycluttered@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lol, reading that "censorship" section alone tells you all you need to know about the author there. Literally hammering 1984 quotes like they love to do (dude, if Mozilla has the same kind of power as the Party, I must be chilling under a rock somewhere). Even has one of their sections called "Cucking to Manifest V3". Back to the "censorship": They want to algorithmically decide which content is allowed to be posted, and which isn't. This is especially relevant in the context of the fake pandemic, during which the whole world has been enslaved exactly thanks to the propagation of the "factual voices" over the so-called "disinformation". The "disinformation" here includes mentioning the factual harm done by COVID vaccines or even proven alternative treatments for COVID itself. So, Mozilla supports a world where people are harmed without being able to defend themselves. Yeah, sorry. No. People with this little regard for reality shouldn't be taken seriously when presenting arguments. This whole screed is aimed at a very particular brand of user that looooooves to pretend they're all "facts", when it's just emotional outrage over perceived slights. Same ones who complained about DDG when they tried to deal with Russian propaganda links showing up too often. It's all very conspiratorial, as is expected, yet offers no real answers because conspiracies very rarely have any. Also, have to lol at the SystemD shit showing up at the end there as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lloram239@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Lol, reading that “censorship” section alone tells you all you need to know about the author there. The site is obviously a bit over the top, however that doesn't change the fact that the (criminally overpaid) Mozilla CEO openly endorses censorship: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplatforming/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Your link doesn't seem to support your statement. Do you mean the part that advocates "turn on by default" tools to amplify factual information over disinformation? Because "turn on by default" implies an off switch. It's not possible for search engines to make zero decisions about what to prioritize in results, anyway. How would you prefer they sort the absurd quantity of results? Especially now SEO listicles try to drown everything else out? permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnowBunting@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Seemingly my Google pixel phone has stopped connecting to the Internet with other browsers. So I'm stuck using Google Chrome on it. 😠 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AngularAloe@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I have a pixel 5a and haven't had that problem, currently using Fennec (firefox fork). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Erdrick@beehaw.org 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Seriously… I’ve never once strayed from Firefox since its release. I’m forced to use chrome for work and it is crap. I guess that using safari on iOS devices is one exception, and it isn’t too bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wim@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've been using Firefox since it was called Phoenix. Mozilla, for all it's flaws, has been our first and only line of defense for an open web for so long. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NaoPb@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I think I started using it in the 1.x times. I remember all the flaws it's had since. I've given lots of other browsers a try in the meantime but none come close to Firefox. They might be good enough for others but for power users Firefox is the way to go. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Erdrick@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago Damn… I think I came on a bit later than that. I don’t recognize the icon of Phoenix so I doubt I made the switch that early on! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wim@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've been using Firefox since it was called Phoenix. Mozilla, for all it's flaws, has been our first and only line of defense for an open web for so long. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NaoPb@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I think I started using it in the 1.x times. I remember all the flaws it's had since. I've given lots of other browsers a try in the meantime but none come close to Firefox. They might be good enough for others but for power users Firefox is the way to go. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Erdrick@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago Damn… I think I came on a bit later than that. I don’t recognize the icon of Phoenix so I doubt I made the switch that early on! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NaoPb@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I think I started using it in the 1.x times. I remember all the flaws it's had since. I've given lots of other browsers a try in the meantime but none come close to Firefox. They might be good enough for others but for power users Firefox is the way to go. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Erdrick@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago Damn… I think I came on a bit later than that. I don’t recognize the icon of Phoenix so I doubt I made the switch that early on! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lloram239@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I’ve used firefox for over 15 years and see no reason to change https://digdeeper.club/articles/mozilla.xhtml permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hare_ware@pawb.social 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Okay, but change to what then? All the other options are just Chrome, Safari, and Firefox again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lloram239@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Ungoogle-Chromium, Brave, Vivaldi, Librewolf, anything that isn't paid by Google. That they are still based on Chrome or Firefox doesn't really matter, since they remove the undesirable parts of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] unfnknblvbl@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago they are still based on Chrome or Firefox doesn't really matter, since they remove the undesirable parts of them. Actually it does matter, since Google are killing off the ability for ad blockers to work with a new manifest specification in Chromium. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eleanor@social.hamington.net 6 points 2 years ago In the case of Brave and Vivaldi, they add their own undesirable parts (Brave adds crypto bullshit and Vivaldi is closed-source, so $DEITY knows what they're adding). Librewolf is open and doesn't contribute to the Chromium monoculture; so it's the best option permalink fedilink source parent [–] Leafeytea@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* Librewolf https://www.torproject.org/ https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/tor-browser permalink fedilink source parent [–] comicallycluttered@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lol, reading that "censorship" section alone tells you all you need to know about the author there. Literally hammering 1984 quotes like they love to do (dude, if Mozilla has the same kind of power as the Party, I must be chilling under a rock somewhere). Even has one of their sections called "Cucking to Manifest V3". Back to the "censorship": They want to algorithmically decide which content is allowed to be posted, and which isn't. This is especially relevant in the context of the fake pandemic, during which the whole world has been enslaved exactly thanks to the propagation of the "factual voices" over the so-called "disinformation". The "disinformation" here includes mentioning the factual harm done by COVID vaccines or even proven alternative treatments for COVID itself. So, Mozilla supports a world where people are harmed without being able to defend themselves. Yeah, sorry. No. People with this little regard for reality shouldn't be taken seriously when presenting arguments. This whole screed is aimed at a very particular brand of user that looooooves to pretend they're all "facts", when it's just emotional outrage over perceived slights. Same ones who complained about DDG when they tried to deal with Russian propaganda links showing up too often. It's all very conspiratorial, as is expected, yet offers no real answers because conspiracies very rarely have any. Also, have to lol at the SystemD shit showing up at the end there as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lloram239@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Lol, reading that “censorship” section alone tells you all you need to know about the author there. The site is obviously a bit over the top, however that doesn't change the fact that the (criminally overpaid) Mozilla CEO openly endorses censorship: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplatforming/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Your link doesn't seem to support your statement. Do you mean the part that advocates "turn on by default" tools to amplify factual information over disinformation? Because "turn on by default" implies an off switch. It's not possible for search engines to make zero decisions about what to prioritize in results, anyway. How would you prefer they sort the absurd quantity of results? Especially now SEO listicles try to drown everything else out? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hare_ware@pawb.social 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Okay, but change to what then? All the other options are just Chrome, Safari, and Firefox again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lloram239@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Ungoogle-Chromium, Brave, Vivaldi, Librewolf, anything that isn't paid by Google. That they are still based on Chrome or Firefox doesn't really matter, since they remove the undesirable parts of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] unfnknblvbl@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago they are still based on Chrome or Firefox doesn't really matter, since they remove the undesirable parts of them. Actually it does matter, since Google are killing off the ability for ad blockers to work with a new manifest specification in Chromium. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eleanor@social.hamington.net 6 points 2 years ago In the case of Brave and Vivaldi, they add their own undesirable parts (Brave adds crypto bullshit and Vivaldi is closed-source, so $DEITY knows what they're adding). Librewolf is open and doesn't contribute to the Chromium monoculture; so it's the best option permalink fedilink source parent [–] Leafeytea@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* Librewolf https://www.torproject.org/ https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/tor-browser permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lloram239@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Ungoogle-Chromium, Brave, Vivaldi, Librewolf, anything that isn't paid by Google. That they are still based on Chrome or Firefox doesn't really matter, since they remove the undesirable parts of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] unfnknblvbl@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago they are still based on Chrome or Firefox doesn't really matter, since they remove the undesirable parts of them. Actually it does matter, since Google are killing off the ability for ad blockers to work with a new manifest specification in Chromium. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eleanor@social.hamington.net 6 points 2 years ago In the case of Brave and Vivaldi, they add their own undesirable parts (Brave adds crypto bullshit and Vivaldi is closed-source, so $DEITY knows what they're adding). Librewolf is open and doesn't contribute to the Chromium monoculture; so it's the best option permalink fedilink source parent
[–] unfnknblvbl@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago they are still based on Chrome or Firefox doesn't really matter, since they remove the undesirable parts of them. Actually it does matter, since Google are killing off the ability for ad blockers to work with a new manifest specification in Chromium. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eleanor@social.hamington.net 6 points 2 years ago In the case of Brave and Vivaldi, they add their own undesirable parts (Brave adds crypto bullshit and Vivaldi is closed-source, so $DEITY knows what they're adding). Librewolf is open and doesn't contribute to the Chromium monoculture; so it's the best option permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Leafeytea@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* Librewolf https://www.torproject.org/ https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/tor-browser permalink fedilink source parent
[–] comicallycluttered@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lol, reading that "censorship" section alone tells you all you need to know about the author there. Literally hammering 1984 quotes like they love to do (dude, if Mozilla has the same kind of power as the Party, I must be chilling under a rock somewhere). Even has one of their sections called "Cucking to Manifest V3". Back to the "censorship": They want to algorithmically decide which content is allowed to be posted, and which isn't. This is especially relevant in the context of the fake pandemic, during which the whole world has been enslaved exactly thanks to the propagation of the "factual voices" over the so-called "disinformation". The "disinformation" here includes mentioning the factual harm done by COVID vaccines or even proven alternative treatments for COVID itself. So, Mozilla supports a world where people are harmed without being able to defend themselves. Yeah, sorry. No. People with this little regard for reality shouldn't be taken seriously when presenting arguments. This whole screed is aimed at a very particular brand of user that looooooves to pretend they're all "facts", when it's just emotional outrage over perceived slights. Same ones who complained about DDG when they tried to deal with Russian propaganda links showing up too often. It's all very conspiratorial, as is expected, yet offers no real answers because conspiracies very rarely have any. Also, have to lol at the SystemD shit showing up at the end there as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lloram239@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Lol, reading that “censorship” section alone tells you all you need to know about the author there. The site is obviously a bit over the top, however that doesn't change the fact that the (criminally overpaid) Mozilla CEO openly endorses censorship: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplatforming/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Your link doesn't seem to support your statement. Do you mean the part that advocates "turn on by default" tools to amplify factual information over disinformation? Because "turn on by default" implies an off switch. It's not possible for search engines to make zero decisions about what to prioritize in results, anyway. How would you prefer they sort the absurd quantity of results? Especially now SEO listicles try to drown everything else out? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lloram239@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Lol, reading that “censorship” section alone tells you all you need to know about the author there. The site is obviously a bit over the top, however that doesn't change the fact that the (criminally overpaid) Mozilla CEO openly endorses censorship: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplatforming/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Your link doesn't seem to support your statement. Do you mean the part that advocates "turn on by default" tools to amplify factual information over disinformation? Because "turn on by default" implies an off switch. It's not possible for search engines to make zero decisions about what to prioritize in results, anyway. How would you prefer they sort the absurd quantity of results? Especially now SEO listicles try to drown everything else out? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Your link doesn't seem to support your statement. Do you mean the part that advocates "turn on by default" tools to amplify factual information over disinformation? Because "turn on by default" implies an off switch. It's not possible for search engines to make zero decisions about what to prioritize in results, anyway. How would you prefer they sort the absurd quantity of results? Especially now SEO listicles try to drown everything else out? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnowBunting@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Seemingly my Google pixel phone has stopped connecting to the Internet with other browsers. So I'm stuck using Google Chrome on it. 😠 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AngularAloe@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I have a pixel 5a and haven't had that problem, currently using Fennec (firefox fork). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AngularAloe@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I have a pixel 5a and haven't had that problem, currently using Fennec (firefox fork). permalink fedilink source parent