▲ 49 ▼ Will wine ever be able to run anticheat? (lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz) submitted 1 year ago by communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz to c/linux@lemmy.ml 58 comments fedilink hide all child comments I'm not finding any information online other than that it's difficult
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 child) No, because then you can just run software cheats at kernel level which would be completely undetectable to userspace anti cheat permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] -20 points 1 year ago (2 children) So? I just want the games to run, I don't care about that side of it at all, that side of it is essentially pointless to me. There were always workarounds anyway, what does it matter? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago (1 child) At that point you might as well not have a kernel level anti cheat and companies who insist on kernel level anti cheat will block wine. The only solutions I see are Developers mainly use server side anti cheat They make native Linux games Distros provide a way to ensure a untainted (signed) kernel permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) That would be a massive win in my book, kernel level anticheat is malware. make it so that they can't block wine without blocking windows and kernel level anticheat is gone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago You cannot realistically make it impossible to detect that you're running on wine. Wine just implements the Windows ABIs. The actual code running is totally different. Even just reading any of the binary code of literally any function would reveal it's different from the Windows code. How are you going to stop it from doing memory reads on stuff that it needs to be able to read? You can't. You'd need a full hardware emulator for that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Developers who use kernel anti-cheat don't support Linux because userspace anti-cheat is largely pointless. It doesn't matter if you personally don't care, the companies that want anti-cheat do care. The workaround for kernel anti-cheat requires hundreds of USD in hardware. The workaround for userspace anti-cheat is entirely software. Because of this, you will have less cheaters if cheating has a $500 price tag. That's why kernel anti-cheat is effective, there's no way for that to be solved with a WINE patch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That’s why kernel anti-cheat is effective Is it actually effective tho? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) It doesn't stop cheating, it just makes cheating require spending a few hundred dollars and dealing with complex hardware setups. This means that relatively few people try. Non-kernel anti-cheat can be bypassed by software. So it's cheap and easily available. That's the only difference. Kernel anti-cheat doesn't prevent cheating, it just makes it more expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can't you just use a virtual machine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That would let you hide things from the kernel anti-cheat but the AC can detect that it is running in a VM and just won't let you play. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Is there really no such thing as a virtual machine that can't pretend to be real hardware? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago The short answer is no. There's a lot of study on this topic from the cybersecurity perspective. If you could create an undetectable virtualization layer then it would be used for real-world cyberattacks to steal money and the existence would be quickly noticed by security researchers (and future hardware would include changes to mitigate the vulnerability). It wouldn't be used for creating aimbots for video games. If you want to read into the technical details, this stackoverflow thread has a lot of links to various papers and articles on the topic: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39533/how-to-identify-that-youre-running-under-a-vm permalink fedilink source parent [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I simply do not believe that it costs that much to cheat with kernel level anticheat. kernel level anticheat is pointless malware in my book, let it burn permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) It requires either a Direct Memory Access card and supporting software or a video capture card and enough processing power to run fast image classification for AI aim bots. Anything running directly on the PC can be detected by the kernel anti-cheat. You can look online for the hardware and prices permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) What about a VM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anti-cheat just detects that it's running on virtual hardware (VMs don't try to lie to the kernel) and will refuse to allow you to connect. You won't get banned but it'll either stop you when you try to launch the client or it'll kick you when you try to connect to a game instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago That would let you hide things from the kernel anti-cheat but the AC can detect that it is running in a VM and just won't let you play. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] -20 points 1 year ago (2 children) So? I just want the games to run, I don't care about that side of it at all, that side of it is essentially pointless to me. There were always workarounds anyway, what does it matter? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago (1 child) At that point you might as well not have a kernel level anti cheat and companies who insist on kernel level anti cheat will block wine. The only solutions I see are Developers mainly use server side anti cheat They make native Linux games Distros provide a way to ensure a untainted (signed) kernel permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) That would be a massive win in my book, kernel level anticheat is malware. make it so that they can't block wine without blocking windows and kernel level anticheat is gone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago You cannot realistically make it impossible to detect that you're running on wine. Wine just implements the Windows ABIs. The actual code running is totally different. Even just reading any of the binary code of literally any function would reveal it's different from the Windows code. How are you going to stop it from doing memory reads on stuff that it needs to be able to read? You can't. You'd need a full hardware emulator for that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Developers who use kernel anti-cheat don't support Linux because userspace anti-cheat is largely pointless. It doesn't matter if you personally don't care, the companies that want anti-cheat do care. The workaround for kernel anti-cheat requires hundreds of USD in hardware. The workaround for userspace anti-cheat is entirely software. Because of this, you will have less cheaters if cheating has a $500 price tag. That's why kernel anti-cheat is effective, there's no way for that to be solved with a WINE patch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That’s why kernel anti-cheat is effective Is it actually effective tho? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) It doesn't stop cheating, it just makes cheating require spending a few hundred dollars and dealing with complex hardware setups. This means that relatively few people try. Non-kernel anti-cheat can be bypassed by software. So it's cheap and easily available. That's the only difference. Kernel anti-cheat doesn't prevent cheating, it just makes it more expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can't you just use a virtual machine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That would let you hide things from the kernel anti-cheat but the AC can detect that it is running in a VM and just won't let you play. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Is there really no such thing as a virtual machine that can't pretend to be real hardware? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago The short answer is no. There's a lot of study on this topic from the cybersecurity perspective. If you could create an undetectable virtualization layer then it would be used for real-world cyberattacks to steal money and the existence would be quickly noticed by security researchers (and future hardware would include changes to mitigate the vulnerability). It wouldn't be used for creating aimbots for video games. If you want to read into the technical details, this stackoverflow thread has a lot of links to various papers and articles on the topic: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39533/how-to-identify-that-youre-running-under-a-vm permalink fedilink source parent [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I simply do not believe that it costs that much to cheat with kernel level anticheat. kernel level anticheat is pointless malware in my book, let it burn permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) It requires either a Direct Memory Access card and supporting software or a video capture card and enough processing power to run fast image classification for AI aim bots. Anything running directly on the PC can be detected by the kernel anti-cheat. You can look online for the hardware and prices permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) What about a VM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anti-cheat just detects that it's running on virtual hardware (VMs don't try to lie to the kernel) and will refuse to allow you to connect. You won't get banned but it'll either stop you when you try to launch the client or it'll kick you when you try to connect to a game instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago That would let you hide things from the kernel anti-cheat but the AC can detect that it is running in a VM and just won't let you play. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago (1 child) At that point you might as well not have a kernel level anti cheat and companies who insist on kernel level anti cheat will block wine. The only solutions I see are Developers mainly use server side anti cheat They make native Linux games Distros provide a way to ensure a untainted (signed) kernel permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) That would be a massive win in my book, kernel level anticheat is malware. make it so that they can't block wine without blocking windows and kernel level anticheat is gone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago You cannot realistically make it impossible to detect that you're running on wine. Wine just implements the Windows ABIs. The actual code running is totally different. Even just reading any of the binary code of literally any function would reveal it's different from the Windows code. How are you going to stop it from doing memory reads on stuff that it needs to be able to read? You can't. You'd need a full hardware emulator for that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) That would be a massive win in my book, kernel level anticheat is malware. make it so that they can't block wine without blocking windows and kernel level anticheat is gone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago You cannot realistically make it impossible to detect that you're running on wine. Wine just implements the Windows ABIs. The actual code running is totally different. Even just reading any of the binary code of literally any function would reveal it's different from the Windows code. How are you going to stop it from doing memory reads on stuff that it needs to be able to read? You can't. You'd need a full hardware emulator for that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago You cannot realistically make it impossible to detect that you're running on wine. Wine just implements the Windows ABIs. The actual code running is totally different. Even just reading any of the binary code of literally any function would reveal it's different from the Windows code. How are you going to stop it from doing memory reads on stuff that it needs to be able to read? You can't. You'd need a full hardware emulator for that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Developers who use kernel anti-cheat don't support Linux because userspace anti-cheat is largely pointless. It doesn't matter if you personally don't care, the companies that want anti-cheat do care. The workaround for kernel anti-cheat requires hundreds of USD in hardware. The workaround for userspace anti-cheat is entirely software. Because of this, you will have less cheaters if cheating has a $500 price tag. That's why kernel anti-cheat is effective, there's no way for that to be solved with a WINE patch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That’s why kernel anti-cheat is effective Is it actually effective tho? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) It doesn't stop cheating, it just makes cheating require spending a few hundred dollars and dealing with complex hardware setups. This means that relatively few people try. Non-kernel anti-cheat can be bypassed by software. So it's cheap and easily available. That's the only difference. Kernel anti-cheat doesn't prevent cheating, it just makes it more expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can't you just use a virtual machine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That would let you hide things from the kernel anti-cheat but the AC can detect that it is running in a VM and just won't let you play. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Is there really no such thing as a virtual machine that can't pretend to be real hardware? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago The short answer is no. There's a lot of study on this topic from the cybersecurity perspective. If you could create an undetectable virtualization layer then it would be used for real-world cyberattacks to steal money and the existence would be quickly noticed by security researchers (and future hardware would include changes to mitigate the vulnerability). It wouldn't be used for creating aimbots for video games. If you want to read into the technical details, this stackoverflow thread has a lot of links to various papers and articles on the topic: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39533/how-to-identify-that-youre-running-under-a-vm permalink fedilink source parent [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I simply do not believe that it costs that much to cheat with kernel level anticheat. kernel level anticheat is pointless malware in my book, let it burn permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) It requires either a Direct Memory Access card and supporting software or a video capture card and enough processing power to run fast image classification for AI aim bots. Anything running directly on the PC can be detected by the kernel anti-cheat. You can look online for the hardware and prices permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) What about a VM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anti-cheat just detects that it's running on virtual hardware (VMs don't try to lie to the kernel) and will refuse to allow you to connect. You won't get banned but it'll either stop you when you try to launch the client or it'll kick you when you try to connect to a game instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago That would let you hide things from the kernel anti-cheat but the AC can detect that it is running in a VM and just won't let you play. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That’s why kernel anti-cheat is effective Is it actually effective tho? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) It doesn't stop cheating, it just makes cheating require spending a few hundred dollars and dealing with complex hardware setups. This means that relatively few people try. Non-kernel anti-cheat can be bypassed by software. So it's cheap and easily available. That's the only difference. Kernel anti-cheat doesn't prevent cheating, it just makes it more expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can't you just use a virtual machine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That would let you hide things from the kernel anti-cheat but the AC can detect that it is running in a VM and just won't let you play. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Is there really no such thing as a virtual machine that can't pretend to be real hardware? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago The short answer is no. There's a lot of study on this topic from the cybersecurity perspective. If you could create an undetectable virtualization layer then it would be used for real-world cyberattacks to steal money and the existence would be quickly noticed by security researchers (and future hardware would include changes to mitigate the vulnerability). It wouldn't be used for creating aimbots for video games. If you want to read into the technical details, this stackoverflow thread has a lot of links to various papers and articles on the topic: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39533/how-to-identify-that-youre-running-under-a-vm permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) It doesn't stop cheating, it just makes cheating require spending a few hundred dollars and dealing with complex hardware setups. This means that relatively few people try. Non-kernel anti-cheat can be bypassed by software. So it's cheap and easily available. That's the only difference. Kernel anti-cheat doesn't prevent cheating, it just makes it more expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can't you just use a virtual machine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That would let you hide things from the kernel anti-cheat but the AC can detect that it is running in a VM and just won't let you play. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Is there really no such thing as a virtual machine that can't pretend to be real hardware? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago The short answer is no. There's a lot of study on this topic from the cybersecurity perspective. If you could create an undetectable virtualization layer then it would be used for real-world cyberattacks to steal money and the existence would be quickly noticed by security researchers (and future hardware would include changes to mitigate the vulnerability). It wouldn't be used for creating aimbots for video games. If you want to read into the technical details, this stackoverflow thread has a lot of links to various papers and articles on the topic: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39533/how-to-identify-that-youre-running-under-a-vm permalink fedilink source parent
[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can't you just use a virtual machine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That would let you hide things from the kernel anti-cheat but the AC can detect that it is running in a VM and just won't let you play. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Is there really no such thing as a virtual machine that can't pretend to be real hardware? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago The short answer is no. There's a lot of study on this topic from the cybersecurity perspective. If you could create an undetectable virtualization layer then it would be used for real-world cyberattacks to steal money and the existence would be quickly noticed by security researchers (and future hardware would include changes to mitigate the vulnerability). It wouldn't be used for creating aimbots for video games. If you want to read into the technical details, this stackoverflow thread has a lot of links to various papers and articles on the topic: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39533/how-to-identify-that-youre-running-under-a-vm permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That would let you hide things from the kernel anti-cheat but the AC can detect that it is running in a VM and just won't let you play. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Is there really no such thing as a virtual machine that can't pretend to be real hardware? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago The short answer is no. There's a lot of study on this topic from the cybersecurity perspective. If you could create an undetectable virtualization layer then it would be used for real-world cyberattacks to steal money and the existence would be quickly noticed by security researchers (and future hardware would include changes to mitigate the vulnerability). It wouldn't be used for creating aimbots for video games. If you want to read into the technical details, this stackoverflow thread has a lot of links to various papers and articles on the topic: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39533/how-to-identify-that-youre-running-under-a-vm permalink fedilink source parent
[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Is there really no such thing as a virtual machine that can't pretend to be real hardware? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago The short answer is no. There's a lot of study on this topic from the cybersecurity perspective. If you could create an undetectable virtualization layer then it would be used for real-world cyberattacks to steal money and the existence would be quickly noticed by security researchers (and future hardware would include changes to mitigate the vulnerability). It wouldn't be used for creating aimbots for video games. If you want to read into the technical details, this stackoverflow thread has a lot of links to various papers and articles on the topic: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39533/how-to-identify-that-youre-running-under-a-vm permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago The short answer is no. There's a lot of study on this topic from the cybersecurity perspective. If you could create an undetectable virtualization layer then it would be used for real-world cyberattacks to steal money and the existence would be quickly noticed by security researchers (and future hardware would include changes to mitigate the vulnerability). It wouldn't be used for creating aimbots for video games. If you want to read into the technical details, this stackoverflow thread has a lot of links to various papers and articles on the topic: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39533/how-to-identify-that-youre-running-under-a-vm permalink fedilink source parent
[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I simply do not believe that it costs that much to cheat with kernel level anticheat. kernel level anticheat is pointless malware in my book, let it burn permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) It requires either a Direct Memory Access card and supporting software or a video capture card and enough processing power to run fast image classification for AI aim bots. Anything running directly on the PC can be detected by the kernel anti-cheat. You can look online for the hardware and prices permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) What about a VM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anti-cheat just detects that it's running on virtual hardware (VMs don't try to lie to the kernel) and will refuse to allow you to connect. You won't get banned but it'll either stop you when you try to launch the client or it'll kick you when you try to connect to a game instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago That would let you hide things from the kernel anti-cheat but the AC can detect that it is running in a VM and just won't let you play. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) It requires either a Direct Memory Access card and supporting software or a video capture card and enough processing power to run fast image classification for AI aim bots. Anything running directly on the PC can be detected by the kernel anti-cheat. You can look online for the hardware and prices permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) What about a VM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anti-cheat just detects that it's running on virtual hardware (VMs don't try to lie to the kernel) and will refuse to allow you to connect. You won't get banned but it'll either stop you when you try to launch the client or it'll kick you when you try to connect to a game instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago That would let you hide things from the kernel anti-cheat but the AC can detect that it is running in a VM and just won't let you play. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) What about a VM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anti-cheat just detects that it's running on virtual hardware (VMs don't try to lie to the kernel) and will refuse to allow you to connect. You won't get banned but it'll either stop you when you try to launch the client or it'll kick you when you try to connect to a game instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago That would let you hide things from the kernel anti-cheat but the AC can detect that it is running in a VM and just won't let you play. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anti-cheat just detects that it's running on virtual hardware (VMs don't try to lie to the kernel) and will refuse to allow you to connect. You won't get banned but it'll either stop you when you try to launch the client or it'll kick you when you try to connect to a game instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago That would let you hide things from the kernel anti-cheat but the AC can detect that it is running in a VM and just won't let you play. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago That would let you hide things from the kernel anti-cheat but the AC can detect that it is running in a VM and just won't let you play. permalink fedilink source parent