▲ 1034 ▼ Calls to tax the superrich grow as economic inequality surges (www.aljazeera.com) submitted 2 years ago by alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works to c/world@lemmy.world 97 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] CompassInspector@invariant-marxism.red 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Capitalism, Socialism and Communism are only how the means of production/trade is owned. Wage labor can still exist. In capitalism, the means of production and trade are owned by private entities. Worker trade their labour for a set wage. All the profit goes to the owner/shareholder. In socialism, the worker owns the means of production and trade. If a coop is more profitable than the next one, the worker of the first coop get more money. The profits are distributed amongst the workers that produced the goods. The workers own the coop/company. In communism, the state owns the mean of production. The profits of the coop/company goes back to the state and are then redistributed in the society. Socialism can still have investment, but the returns necessarily be money. A certain good is needed. The worker pool their money to build a factory and make a successful product. The workers then get a return on their investment (they make more money than they initially had). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CompassInspector@invariant-marxism.red 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) All those examples are capitalism and changes absolutely nothing for humanity except the shape of the slave driver. Your mistake is thinking of commodity production and wage labor as unchanging, eternal states of being which comes from the bourgeois economic ideology taught to you, a notion Marx already destroyed. There was a "before" capitalist production and there will be an "after" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What are you babling on about? Production can be an artisan making one spoon a year or a factory making a million pcb a month. In the end, the way that output is managed defines the economic system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] CompassInspector@invariant-marxism.red 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Because it was in the context of the current system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Capitalism, Socialism and Communism are only how the means of production/trade is owned. Wage labor can still exist. In capitalism, the means of production and trade are owned by private entities. Worker trade their labour for a set wage. All the profit goes to the owner/shareholder. In socialism, the worker owns the means of production and trade. If a coop is more profitable than the next one, the worker of the first coop get more money. The profits are distributed amongst the workers that produced the goods. The workers own the coop/company. In communism, the state owns the mean of production. The profits of the coop/company goes back to the state and are then redistributed in the society. Socialism can still have investment, but the returns necessarily be money. A certain good is needed. The worker pool their money to build a factory and make a successful product. The workers then get a return on their investment (they make more money than they initially had). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CompassInspector@invariant-marxism.red 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) All those examples are capitalism and changes absolutely nothing for humanity except the shape of the slave driver. Your mistake is thinking of commodity production and wage labor as unchanging, eternal states of being which comes from the bourgeois economic ideology taught to you, a notion Marx already destroyed. There was a "before" capitalist production and there will be an "after" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What are you babling on about? Production can be an artisan making one spoon a year or a factory making a million pcb a month. In the end, the way that output is managed defines the economic system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] CompassInspector@invariant-marxism.red 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Because it was in the context of the current system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CompassInspector@invariant-marxism.red 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) All those examples are capitalism and changes absolutely nothing for humanity except the shape of the slave driver. Your mistake is thinking of commodity production and wage labor as unchanging, eternal states of being which comes from the bourgeois economic ideology taught to you, a notion Marx already destroyed. There was a "before" capitalist production and there will be an "after" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What are you babling on about? Production can be an artisan making one spoon a year or a factory making a million pcb a month. In the end, the way that output is managed defines the economic system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] CompassInspector@invariant-marxism.red 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Because it was in the context of the current system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What are you babling on about? Production can be an artisan making one spoon a year or a factory making a million pcb a month. In the end, the way that output is managed defines the economic system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] CompassInspector@invariant-marxism.red 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Because it was in the context of the current system. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] CompassInspector@invariant-marxism.red 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Because it was in the context of the current system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Because it was in the context of the current system. permalink fedilink source parent