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Instance A does not federate with Instance B. But B federates with A. What does it mean to a user? (fedia.io)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
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I've tried searching for other posts that ask a similar question, but I couldn't fine one that could fully make me understand what it would mean in this scenario.

So far from my understanding is that if I browse All, the instance I'm on won't show anything at all from the instances that it blocked. But manually doing the workaround would still show me the community and whatever posts that got federated in my instance. Is my understanding correct?

The other topic of federation that I'm interested to understand as a user are below.

The example: fedia.io states in their federation list that it does not federate with ani.social. But ani.social states they federate with fedia.io.

I can go to say !anime@ani.social just fine via fedia.io, although there is some posts that doesn't show. Is this one of the result of this situation?

Additionally, today I did basically try to subscribe to all the same communities/magazines on my lemmy.world (I'm considering to abandon this account), fedia.io and kbin.earth accounts.

Other than the situation above happened to some communities where some post doesn't sync, I've also found some communities that's just inaccessible from either 3 instances.

Is that another result of not being federated?

Thanks in advanced.

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[–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Yup. Since fedia.io was federating with ani.social for awhile you've got a "local copy" of ani.social's communities on fedia.io from back when it federated.

So when you post on those communities it's all happening only on fedia.io and you see posts/comments on that community from other fedia.io users. But, for example, I can't see what fedia.io local copy of anime@ani.social looks like from my instance, because my "local copy" is still federating with the actual instance anime community is hosted on (i see new posts and my posts/comments get sent first to ani.social's original community and federates to rest of instances from there).

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Thanks. That's a slight shame. I've only been trying out lemmy / threadiverse for just a few days (second attempt. first attempt was back on reddit APIcalypse) and for now I'm liking mbin a bit more than lemmy. fedia.io being the biggest instance, so that's why I registered there first. next biggest mbin instance is a bit less stable.

    I suppose it's still early days for me so I can afford to jump around for now to see what instance sticks, and I guess the software as well.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I went with kbin because I liked the interface better. Im guessing you are also a person who browses on a computer rather than a phone. Unfortunately something happened with earnest so I moved to an mbin instance. There is a third thing sorta in alpha that looks promising and I keep forgetting its name. It might ultimately have a better interface.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm kind of am using both on desktop and mobile equally. back when i was active on reddit, I use mobile apps to browse and save comments to later interact and respond more easily on desktop.

    the third thing, is it possible it's sublink or something like that?

    piefed seems to be the third defacto for now, but you already said that's not what you meant.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    no its definitely a thing you can sign up to and not a mod in that way. im just not sure if its a unique activity pub implementation like mbin/lemmy or like taking one of those and adding to it. It might even be making changes to activity pub as part of it as there is something I had read in a convo where someone was talking about how communities having to assign something so they get into a particular pool or something.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Piefed? It integrates with a variety of federated things but I haven't gotten in too deep. I have a similar path as you.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I highly recommend a smaller stable instance. You are less likely to end up between defederation wars.

    Initially it will suck because you wont find communities and your feed will look empty since you need to have atleast one account from your instance subscribing to a community to federate it to your instance, but once you find communities and subscribe you'll have the widest access to content since federation is on by default and instances explicitly choose who they defederate (or they use lists of known bad-instances, but small ones are often not on these).

    But that's just my opinion, look into options a bit!

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Noted. It does feel like I do have to go look for "the one" instance like that. Sucks as a lurker; that's my default mode lol.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I know how you feel! I myself was a lurker on reddit and I've instance-/software-hopped on fediverse few times until I found my favourite instance+software.

    It takes more time and effort, but I'm definitely happier here than on reddit. Fediverse has it's difficulties but it feels more "organic", atleast until now.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's interesting though, and somewhat nostalgic. It feels like how I was pruning my reddit subscriptions and all. Or twitter. Or other social media. Idk how go through the noise by not pruning what they follow.

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