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Why It's Crucial To Expose US Provocations in Ukraine - Antiwar.com (original.antiwar.com)
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If you believe that Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine was unprovoked, you will likely compare Putin to Hitler and will likely oppose President Trump’s peace negotiations with Russia. After all, if Putin’s invasion was unprovoked, a settlement would reward naked aggression and would be akin to Neville Chamberlain’s 1938 appeasement…

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[–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've always compared this invasion to a sexual assault, actually. Aggressors love to say "They were asking for it."

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I’ve always compared this invasion to a sexual assault

    Gross

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It sure is.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So stop doing it

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Stop justifying violence by claiming the victim was asking for it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Ok, so were the massacres in Donbas the ethnic Russians asking for it? Or does your disgusting, disingenuous reductionism only apply to whichever cause the state department tells you to latch onto?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I’ve always compared geopolitics to pop psychology.

    NATO expansion:

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    NATO in general:

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    Maidan coup & fascist attacks on Eastern Ukraine:

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What a disgusting piece of rhetoric bankruptcy, as expected from liberals and gringos most of all.

    You know what can be compared to sexual assault? The sexual assault regularly happening to Roma people and ethnic Russians in Ukraine at the hands of Azov and other right wing battalions and paramilitaries in Ukraine, as per the Donbas documentary.

    There's also been allegations of rape and torture in Kursk, and why wouldn't there be? The CIA trained the Ukrainians in counter insurgency, which is their way of saying terrorism. If you wanna know what it'd look like if they hadn't defended themselves, look at the West Bank.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The sexual assault regularly happening to Roma people and ethnic Russians in Ukraine at the hands of Azov and other right wing battalions

    That is also an issue and has to be addressed. Neonazis and rapists everywhere have to be imprisoned. But the invasion of russia is the wrong way to address this. A democracy and a fair and non corrupt judicial system are the way to go.

    If you wanna know what it'd look like if they hadn't defended themselves, look at the West Bank.

    Thats an argument in favor of defense.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    A democracy and a fair judicial system is what the Donetsk and Lugansk republics want, which is why they seceded after the Nazi coup. The way to achieve that (after international organs failed to enforce a ceasefire) was through Russian support, and it's their right to ask for it and good on Russia for supporting them knowing sanctions and war would come to them for aiding them with more than empty rhetoric.

    The Palestinian people probably wish they had a neighbor like Russia who's prepared to engage militarily when it becomes clear that imperialists only fear the violence they so eagerly inflict on the rest of us.

    If you think Russia's intervention doesn't mean defense, ask yourself why the Ukrainian military was met with popular resistance while the Russian military was eagerly celebrated in Donbas.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Interesting that you don't /seem/ to be aware of the invaders' rapes and racism at all. There's rape and racism everywhere, literally every single where. But sure, tell me how rapes and racism show the inherent evil of Ukraine.. surely the kind of provocation that shows "They were asking for it." This is coming from a rape survivor, btw, can't shame me out of using it as a metaphor.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago*

    Lmao there it is. When there's credible accusations leveled at Ukraine, suddenly it's no big deal because everyone does it, but mostly the side you're against, which isn't okay.

    I'm not claiming the inherent evil of anywhere, I'm not a racist fucking lib. I'm saying there were crimes being perpetrated against the Ukrainian people, and they defended themselves and asked Russia to aid them, which was their right.

    Whatever you've gone through, it doesn't make it any less disgusting to weaponize trauma to invalidate the struggle of others. Jewish people went through the Holocaust, it doesn't make their shouts of antisemitism at the slightest criticism valid, nor does it justify the deflection from their own crimes. But I can't say I'm surprised by how low gringos will go to paint their incessant war profiteering as virtue.

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