▲ 515 ▼ hexbear.net is on sale for auction (lemmy.dbzer0.com) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca 493 comments fedilink hide all child comments Auction: https://www.sav.com/auctions/details/7073489/hexbear.net Not sure what will happen, but seems to be a Fediverselore event for sure Update: post from hexbear admin on chapo.chat: https://chapo.chat/post/4468531
[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not them, but here you go permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Edit: Okay, I figured it out. NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring registrar. Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration. So, as I had guessed, sav.com registered it "for them" for one year more than they actually wanted to register, and then when there was some minor billing issue, used it as an opportunity to do a cash grab. Fuck sav.com, is basically what I'm saying. Previous comment, before the edit: IDK what's going on with that web site, but it's wrong. Or, sav.com updated something to backdate the expiration or something else shady like that. $ whois hexbear.net | head -n20 Domain Name: HEXBEAR.NET Registry Domain ID: 2584175083_DOMAIN_NET-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois-service.virtualcloud.co Registrar URL: http://sav.com/ Updated Date: 2025-02-11T17:34:08Z Creation Date: 2021-01-12T00:35:22Z Registry Expiry Date: 2026-01-12T00:35:22Z Registrar: Sav.com, LLC Registrar IANA ID: 609 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse-contact@sav.com Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.8885808790 Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Name Server: NS1-EXPIRED.SAV.COM Name Server: NS2-EXPIRED.SAV.COM I trust running whois more than I trust a web site. Like I say, I have no explanation why they would be wrong, but they're wrong. Maybe sav.com registers it "on behalf of" their clients, and sets the meta-expiration one year after to give them time to fuck around with auctions? Something weird like that? And then it's only paid until last month, and because a card had expired or something trivial like that, they decided to throw it into this auction process? As much as I think it's funny to make fun of Hexbear, I don't think people should be celebrating them getting fucked over by criminals. Edit: They're over on chapo.chat now, blaming the whole thing not on sav.com, or on themselves for choosing a registrar for an important server without doing due diligence, but on DNS itself and the architects of the internet. I take it back. Fuck 'em. https://chapo.chat/post/4468515 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Edie@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Wtf are you talking about??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Thats one user being unhappy with how the system functions They are clearly blaming the admin going AWOL and not paying, and themselves for not getting the domain transfered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) https://chapo.chat/c/chapotraphouse?dataType=Post&sort=TopDay https://chapo.chat/post/4468515?sort=Top I did see the much more reasonable post from the site admin. That one was fine, I should have made that clear. I was mocking the users of the site freaking out, to broad and sustained applause, over how DNS is a capitalist plot when it is just about the furthest thing from it that exists on the modern internet. I also thought it was funny that they found some GNU tool that was a replacement, but then freaked out minorly because in the docs it talks about some issue related to censorship of the Chinese internet, and we are not allowed to talk about that, that is a bad thought, it's not real it's not real. Also, this is absolutely true: As an aside, this site has a way better layout and interface than all the other lemmies. Seriously the most comfortable way to browse and it even works well on mobile. I don't know why it hasn't been shared, or picked up by anyone else. Lemmy.ml if nowhere else. I never really browsed Hexbear on its own instance before today. It's a little bit garish, on purpose, but not overly much and it all fits together and looks peaceful and attractive. It is not "show me the UX equivalent of a pile of unvarnished planks" like the default theming. Edit: Just in case it's not clear, I am fully and sincerely saying that Hexbear's theme looks really good. IDK what they did but they did a good job. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chickentendrils@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Something's wrong with you if you think Chinese censorship is denied anywhere... It's just funny to contrast coverage in the west to how little discussion there is of our owners' budget for counterrevolutionary activities and propaganda and sabotage and espionage against any country making its own decision. Let alone illegal sanctions, invasions, occupations... Or neverending examples of states which acquiesced simply being exploited by collaborators. As if there's no reasonable historical explanation for such a censorship regime to have ever existed... As the US rolls out its own versions of Web censorship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat -1 points 2 years ago https://chapo.chat/post/4468515/5913728 That's the thing in context. If someone made a tool for you to use, out of the goodness of their heart, but acknowledges the simple fact of Chinese censorship, and that disgusts you, there is something wrong with you and you're trying to engineer the world and reality to conform to your dogma. Like DNS, GNU is some of the most successful communist-paradigm stuff that any of us ever interact with day-to-day. Singling it out for criticism and disgust unless it hews the line exactly of how you want to demand it contextualizes its true facts about anything, making excuses for a regime a lot more authoritarian than surely-problematic Western governments, is absurd. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 0 points 2 years ago* As much as I think it’s funny to make fun of Hexbear, I don’t think people should be celebrating them getting fucked over by criminals. Edit: They’re over on chapo.chat now, blaming the whole thing not on sav.com, or on themselves for choosing a registrar for an important server without doing due diligence, but on DNS itself and the architects of the internet. I take it back. Fuck 'em. They are still the same permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Edit: Okay, I figured it out. NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring registrar. Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration. So, as I had guessed, sav.com registered it "for them" for one year more than they actually wanted to register, and then when there was some minor billing issue, used it as an opportunity to do a cash grab. Fuck sav.com, is basically what I'm saying. Previous comment, before the edit: IDK what's going on with that web site, but it's wrong. Or, sav.com updated something to backdate the expiration or something else shady like that. $ whois hexbear.net | head -n20 Domain Name: HEXBEAR.NET Registry Domain ID: 2584175083_DOMAIN_NET-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois-service.virtualcloud.co Registrar URL: http://sav.com/ Updated Date: 2025-02-11T17:34:08Z Creation Date: 2021-01-12T00:35:22Z Registry Expiry Date: 2026-01-12T00:35:22Z Registrar: Sav.com, LLC Registrar IANA ID: 609 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse-contact@sav.com Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.8885808790 Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Name Server: NS1-EXPIRED.SAV.COM Name Server: NS2-EXPIRED.SAV.COM I trust running whois more than I trust a web site. Like I say, I have no explanation why they would be wrong, but they're wrong. Maybe sav.com registers it "on behalf of" their clients, and sets the meta-expiration one year after to give them time to fuck around with auctions? Something weird like that? And then it's only paid until last month, and because a card had expired or something trivial like that, they decided to throw it into this auction process? As much as I think it's funny to make fun of Hexbear, I don't think people should be celebrating them getting fucked over by criminals. Edit: They're over on chapo.chat now, blaming the whole thing not on sav.com, or on themselves for choosing a registrar for an important server without doing due diligence, but on DNS itself and the architects of the internet. I take it back. Fuck 'em. https://chapo.chat/post/4468515 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Edie@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Wtf are you talking about??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Thats one user being unhappy with how the system functions They are clearly blaming the admin going AWOL and not paying, and themselves for not getting the domain transfered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) https://chapo.chat/c/chapotraphouse?dataType=Post&sort=TopDay https://chapo.chat/post/4468515?sort=Top I did see the much more reasonable post from the site admin. That one was fine, I should have made that clear. I was mocking the users of the site freaking out, to broad and sustained applause, over how DNS is a capitalist plot when it is just about the furthest thing from it that exists on the modern internet. I also thought it was funny that they found some GNU tool that was a replacement, but then freaked out minorly because in the docs it talks about some issue related to censorship of the Chinese internet, and we are not allowed to talk about that, that is a bad thought, it's not real it's not real. Also, this is absolutely true: As an aside, this site has a way better layout and interface than all the other lemmies. Seriously the most comfortable way to browse and it even works well on mobile. I don't know why it hasn't been shared, or picked up by anyone else. Lemmy.ml if nowhere else. I never really browsed Hexbear on its own instance before today. It's a little bit garish, on purpose, but not overly much and it all fits together and looks peaceful and attractive. It is not "show me the UX equivalent of a pile of unvarnished planks" like the default theming. Edit: Just in case it's not clear, I am fully and sincerely saying that Hexbear's theme looks really good. IDK what they did but they did a good job. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chickentendrils@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Something's wrong with you if you think Chinese censorship is denied anywhere... It's just funny to contrast coverage in the west to how little discussion there is of our owners' budget for counterrevolutionary activities and propaganda and sabotage and espionage against any country making its own decision. Let alone illegal sanctions, invasions, occupations... Or neverending examples of states which acquiesced simply being exploited by collaborators. As if there's no reasonable historical explanation for such a censorship regime to have ever existed... As the US rolls out its own versions of Web censorship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat -1 points 2 years ago https://chapo.chat/post/4468515/5913728 That's the thing in context. If someone made a tool for you to use, out of the goodness of their heart, but acknowledges the simple fact of Chinese censorship, and that disgusts you, there is something wrong with you and you're trying to engineer the world and reality to conform to your dogma. Like DNS, GNU is some of the most successful communist-paradigm stuff that any of us ever interact with day-to-day. Singling it out for criticism and disgust unless it hews the line exactly of how you want to demand it contextualizes its true facts about anything, making excuses for a regime a lot more authoritarian than surely-problematic Western governments, is absurd. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 0 points 2 years ago* As much as I think it’s funny to make fun of Hexbear, I don’t think people should be celebrating them getting fucked over by criminals. Edit: They’re over on chapo.chat now, blaming the whole thing not on sav.com, or on themselves for choosing a registrar for an important server without doing due diligence, but on DNS itself and the architects of the internet. I take it back. Fuck 'em. They are still the same permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Wtf are you talking about??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Thats one user being unhappy with how the system functions They are clearly blaming the admin going AWOL and not paying, and themselves for not getting the domain transfered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) https://chapo.chat/c/chapotraphouse?dataType=Post&sort=TopDay https://chapo.chat/post/4468515?sort=Top I did see the much more reasonable post from the site admin. That one was fine, I should have made that clear. I was mocking the users of the site freaking out, to broad and sustained applause, over how DNS is a capitalist plot when it is just about the furthest thing from it that exists on the modern internet. I also thought it was funny that they found some GNU tool that was a replacement, but then freaked out minorly because in the docs it talks about some issue related to censorship of the Chinese internet, and we are not allowed to talk about that, that is a bad thought, it's not real it's not real. Also, this is absolutely true: As an aside, this site has a way better layout and interface than all the other lemmies. Seriously the most comfortable way to browse and it even works well on mobile. I don't know why it hasn't been shared, or picked up by anyone else. Lemmy.ml if nowhere else. I never really browsed Hexbear on its own instance before today. It's a little bit garish, on purpose, but not overly much and it all fits together and looks peaceful and attractive. It is not "show me the UX equivalent of a pile of unvarnished planks" like the default theming. Edit: Just in case it's not clear, I am fully and sincerely saying that Hexbear's theme looks really good. IDK what they did but they did a good job. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chickentendrils@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Something's wrong with you if you think Chinese censorship is denied anywhere... It's just funny to contrast coverage in the west to how little discussion there is of our owners' budget for counterrevolutionary activities and propaganda and sabotage and espionage against any country making its own decision. Let alone illegal sanctions, invasions, occupations... Or neverending examples of states which acquiesced simply being exploited by collaborators. As if there's no reasonable historical explanation for such a censorship regime to have ever existed... As the US rolls out its own versions of Web censorship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat -1 points 2 years ago https://chapo.chat/post/4468515/5913728 That's the thing in context. If someone made a tool for you to use, out of the goodness of their heart, but acknowledges the simple fact of Chinese censorship, and that disgusts you, there is something wrong with you and you're trying to engineer the world and reality to conform to your dogma. Like DNS, GNU is some of the most successful communist-paradigm stuff that any of us ever interact with day-to-day. Singling it out for criticism and disgust unless it hews the line exactly of how you want to demand it contextualizes its true facts about anything, making excuses for a regime a lot more authoritarian than surely-problematic Western governments, is absurd. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) https://chapo.chat/c/chapotraphouse?dataType=Post&sort=TopDay https://chapo.chat/post/4468515?sort=Top I did see the much more reasonable post from the site admin. That one was fine, I should have made that clear. I was mocking the users of the site freaking out, to broad and sustained applause, over how DNS is a capitalist plot when it is just about the furthest thing from it that exists on the modern internet. I also thought it was funny that they found some GNU tool that was a replacement, but then freaked out minorly because in the docs it talks about some issue related to censorship of the Chinese internet, and we are not allowed to talk about that, that is a bad thought, it's not real it's not real. Also, this is absolutely true: As an aside, this site has a way better layout and interface than all the other lemmies. Seriously the most comfortable way to browse and it even works well on mobile. I don't know why it hasn't been shared, or picked up by anyone else. Lemmy.ml if nowhere else. I never really browsed Hexbear on its own instance before today. It's a little bit garish, on purpose, but not overly much and it all fits together and looks peaceful and attractive. It is not "show me the UX equivalent of a pile of unvarnished planks" like the default theming. Edit: Just in case it's not clear, I am fully and sincerely saying that Hexbear's theme looks really good. IDK what they did but they did a good job. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chickentendrils@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Something's wrong with you if you think Chinese censorship is denied anywhere... It's just funny to contrast coverage in the west to how little discussion there is of our owners' budget for counterrevolutionary activities and propaganda and sabotage and espionage against any country making its own decision. Let alone illegal sanctions, invasions, occupations... Or neverending examples of states which acquiesced simply being exploited by collaborators. As if there's no reasonable historical explanation for such a censorship regime to have ever existed... As the US rolls out its own versions of Web censorship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat -1 points 2 years ago https://chapo.chat/post/4468515/5913728 That's the thing in context. If someone made a tool for you to use, out of the goodness of their heart, but acknowledges the simple fact of Chinese censorship, and that disgusts you, there is something wrong with you and you're trying to engineer the world and reality to conform to your dogma. Like DNS, GNU is some of the most successful communist-paradigm stuff that any of us ever interact with day-to-day. Singling it out for criticism and disgust unless it hews the line exactly of how you want to demand it contextualizes its true facts about anything, making excuses for a regime a lot more authoritarian than surely-problematic Western governments, is absurd. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chickentendrils@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Something's wrong with you if you think Chinese censorship is denied anywhere... It's just funny to contrast coverage in the west to how little discussion there is of our owners' budget for counterrevolutionary activities and propaganda and sabotage and espionage against any country making its own decision. Let alone illegal sanctions, invasions, occupations... Or neverending examples of states which acquiesced simply being exploited by collaborators. As if there's no reasonable historical explanation for such a censorship regime to have ever existed... As the US rolls out its own versions of Web censorship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat -1 points 2 years ago https://chapo.chat/post/4468515/5913728 That's the thing in context. If someone made a tool for you to use, out of the goodness of their heart, but acknowledges the simple fact of Chinese censorship, and that disgusts you, there is something wrong with you and you're trying to engineer the world and reality to conform to your dogma. Like DNS, GNU is some of the most successful communist-paradigm stuff that any of us ever interact with day-to-day. Singling it out for criticism and disgust unless it hews the line exactly of how you want to demand it contextualizes its true facts about anything, making excuses for a regime a lot more authoritarian than surely-problematic Western governments, is absurd. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat -1 points 2 years ago https://chapo.chat/post/4468515/5913728 That's the thing in context. If someone made a tool for you to use, out of the goodness of their heart, but acknowledges the simple fact of Chinese censorship, and that disgusts you, there is something wrong with you and you're trying to engineer the world and reality to conform to your dogma. Like DNS, GNU is some of the most successful communist-paradigm stuff that any of us ever interact with day-to-day. Singling it out for criticism and disgust unless it hews the line exactly of how you want to demand it contextualizes its true facts about anything, making excuses for a regime a lot more authoritarian than surely-problematic Western governments, is absurd. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 0 points 2 years ago* As much as I think it’s funny to make fun of Hexbear, I don’t think people should be celebrating them getting fucked over by criminals. Edit: They’re over on chapo.chat now, blaming the whole thing not on sav.com, or on themselves for choosing a registrar for an important server without doing due diligence, but on DNS itself and the architects of the internet. I take it back. Fuck 'em. They are still the same permalink fedilink source parent
