▲ 94 ▼ AI Will Save Dating Apps. Or Maybe Finally Kill Them (www.wired.com) submitted 1 year ago by misk@sopuli.xyz to c/technology@lemmy.world 39 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 year ago (5 children) Were they ever good tho? permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] misk@sopuli.xyz [S] 31 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah. When they had to fight for their user base. Even Tinder was reasonably usable couple of years ago. It paired me with my current partner which must be considered a marvel of technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Trex202@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes, but by pairing you, it lost 2 users! That's counterintuitive to capitalism. So if the AI works for the users, it will bring down the app. If the AI works for the investors, people will get bad pairings and it will bring down the app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Hey, it's not "bad pairings", it's just a very good pairing (with fake AI profile) that "unfortunately" could never have a conversation outside the app permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Neuralink ftw lol. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah the OG OKCupid was incredible. Then it was bought out and became another swiping app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Oh was OKCupid a non Tinder like app back then? Good to know permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Yes, they had a system where you answered questions about a wide range of topics, and answered what the ideal mate should say, then give a weight to how important that is for you. For example, you prefer chocolate over vanilla, and you want your mate to be the same, but it’s not an important factor. On the other hand, you prefer not to be a nazi, and it’s super important your mate isn’t one either. Also, there were IQ questions which allowed filtering out the stupid ones (like is the sun or the earth larger). Then the system would recommend profiles based on a match score computed from your answers. Really great. Got two relationships out of it, one is going 10 years today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago Adding onto this, it was totally free and you could just endlessly scroll through profiles, read them, look at their answers to questions, etc. No need to say "yes" or "no" to each profile judt to see the next one. And if you answered all of the personality questions (there were hundreds if not thousands) you were invited to become a site mod, which I did. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) I had a modicum of success on OKC. In 2013. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] poo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ditto - a date from OKC in 2012 led to my current marriage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) But not your next one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poo@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago And probably not my twentieth permalink fedilink source parent [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago That was because OKC had long form quizzes and in depth bios. It has been Tinderized and is no longer recognizable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DelightfullyDivisive@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago I went on something like 50 dates with people that I found on online dating sites. This was between 2005 and 2007 (when I met my wife via Yahoo Personals.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] psyspoop@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I met my fiancée on a dating app circa 2014 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) And how much do you use dating apps now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] psyspoop@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Considering I have a fiancée, never. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) And that’s the point. When it works, they lose 2 customers forever. It’s a filtering process that removes all the diamonds in the rough. All that’s left is the rough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) I mean that's definitely true and all, but wouldn't they also get a continuous fresh supply of single people (coming of age, breakups). Don't get me wrong I totally get they want that and to keep the users hooked as well, because they're greedy piggys, but still I don't know if the business model is doomed if they don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago The issue is if those new singles enter the rough zone (full of people who have not had much success) they’re going to have a very bad experience. Probably the best experience is for then to pair off against other new singles and depart. Some will end up doing that but others will end up stuck in the mud like everyone else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] misk@sopuli.xyz [S] 31 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah. When they had to fight for their user base. Even Tinder was reasonably usable couple of years ago. It paired me with my current partner which must be considered a marvel of technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Trex202@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes, but by pairing you, it lost 2 users! That's counterintuitive to capitalism. So if the AI works for the users, it will bring down the app. If the AI works for the investors, people will get bad pairings and it will bring down the app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Hey, it's not "bad pairings", it's just a very good pairing (with fake AI profile) that "unfortunately" could never have a conversation outside the app permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Neuralink ftw lol. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Trex202@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes, but by pairing you, it lost 2 users! That's counterintuitive to capitalism. So if the AI works for the users, it will bring down the app. If the AI works for the investors, people will get bad pairings and it will bring down the app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Hey, it's not "bad pairings", it's just a very good pairing (with fake AI profile) that "unfortunately" could never have a conversation outside the app permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Neuralink ftw lol. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Hey, it's not "bad pairings", it's just a very good pairing (with fake AI profile) that "unfortunately" could never have a conversation outside the app permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Neuralink ftw lol. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Neuralink ftw lol. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah the OG OKCupid was incredible. Then it was bought out and became another swiping app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Oh was OKCupid a non Tinder like app back then? Good to know permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Yes, they had a system where you answered questions about a wide range of topics, and answered what the ideal mate should say, then give a weight to how important that is for you. For example, you prefer chocolate over vanilla, and you want your mate to be the same, but it’s not an important factor. On the other hand, you prefer not to be a nazi, and it’s super important your mate isn’t one either. Also, there were IQ questions which allowed filtering out the stupid ones (like is the sun or the earth larger). Then the system would recommend profiles based on a match score computed from your answers. Really great. Got two relationships out of it, one is going 10 years today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago Adding onto this, it was totally free and you could just endlessly scroll through profiles, read them, look at their answers to questions, etc. No need to say "yes" or "no" to each profile judt to see the next one. And if you answered all of the personality questions (there were hundreds if not thousands) you were invited to become a site mod, which I did. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Oh was OKCupid a non Tinder like app back then? Good to know permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Yes, they had a system where you answered questions about a wide range of topics, and answered what the ideal mate should say, then give a weight to how important that is for you. For example, you prefer chocolate over vanilla, and you want your mate to be the same, but it’s not an important factor. On the other hand, you prefer not to be a nazi, and it’s super important your mate isn’t one either. Also, there were IQ questions which allowed filtering out the stupid ones (like is the sun or the earth larger). Then the system would recommend profiles based on a match score computed from your answers. Really great. Got two relationships out of it, one is going 10 years today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago Adding onto this, it was totally free and you could just endlessly scroll through profiles, read them, look at their answers to questions, etc. No need to say "yes" or "no" to each profile judt to see the next one. And if you answered all of the personality questions (there were hundreds if not thousands) you were invited to become a site mod, which I did. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Yes, they had a system where you answered questions about a wide range of topics, and answered what the ideal mate should say, then give a weight to how important that is for you. For example, you prefer chocolate over vanilla, and you want your mate to be the same, but it’s not an important factor. On the other hand, you prefer not to be a nazi, and it’s super important your mate isn’t one either. Also, there were IQ questions which allowed filtering out the stupid ones (like is the sun or the earth larger). Then the system would recommend profiles based on a match score computed from your answers. Really great. Got two relationships out of it, one is going 10 years today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago Adding onto this, it was totally free and you could just endlessly scroll through profiles, read them, look at their answers to questions, etc. No need to say "yes" or "no" to each profile judt to see the next one. And if you answered all of the personality questions (there were hundreds if not thousands) you were invited to become a site mod, which I did. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago Adding onto this, it was totally free and you could just endlessly scroll through profiles, read them, look at their answers to questions, etc. No need to say "yes" or "no" to each profile judt to see the next one. And if you answered all of the personality questions (there were hundreds if not thousands) you were invited to become a site mod, which I did. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) I had a modicum of success on OKC. In 2013. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] poo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ditto - a date from OKC in 2012 led to my current marriage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) But not your next one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poo@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago And probably not my twentieth permalink fedilink source parent [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago That was because OKC had long form quizzes and in depth bios. It has been Tinderized and is no longer recognizable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] poo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ditto - a date from OKC in 2012 led to my current marriage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) But not your next one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poo@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago And probably not my twentieth permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) But not your next one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poo@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago And probably not my twentieth permalink fedilink source parent
[–] poo@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago And probably not my twentieth permalink fedilink source parent
[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago That was because OKC had long form quizzes and in depth bios. It has been Tinderized and is no longer recognizable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DelightfullyDivisive@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago I went on something like 50 dates with people that I found on online dating sites. This was between 2005 and 2007 (when I met my wife via Yahoo Personals.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psyspoop@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I met my fiancée on a dating app circa 2014 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) And how much do you use dating apps now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] psyspoop@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Considering I have a fiancée, never. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) And that’s the point. When it works, they lose 2 customers forever. It’s a filtering process that removes all the diamonds in the rough. All that’s left is the rough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) I mean that's definitely true and all, but wouldn't they also get a continuous fresh supply of single people (coming of age, breakups). Don't get me wrong I totally get they want that and to keep the users hooked as well, because they're greedy piggys, but still I don't know if the business model is doomed if they don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago The issue is if those new singles enter the rough zone (full of people who have not had much success) they’re going to have a very bad experience. Probably the best experience is for then to pair off against other new singles and depart. Some will end up doing that but others will end up stuck in the mud like everyone else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) And how much do you use dating apps now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] psyspoop@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Considering I have a fiancée, never. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) And that’s the point. When it works, they lose 2 customers forever. It’s a filtering process that removes all the diamonds in the rough. All that’s left is the rough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) I mean that's definitely true and all, but wouldn't they also get a continuous fresh supply of single people (coming of age, breakups). Don't get me wrong I totally get they want that and to keep the users hooked as well, because they're greedy piggys, but still I don't know if the business model is doomed if they don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago The issue is if those new singles enter the rough zone (full of people who have not had much success) they’re going to have a very bad experience. Probably the best experience is for then to pair off against other new singles and depart. Some will end up doing that but others will end up stuck in the mud like everyone else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psyspoop@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Considering I have a fiancée, never. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) And that’s the point. When it works, they lose 2 customers forever. It’s a filtering process that removes all the diamonds in the rough. All that’s left is the rough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) I mean that's definitely true and all, but wouldn't they also get a continuous fresh supply of single people (coming of age, breakups). Don't get me wrong I totally get they want that and to keep the users hooked as well, because they're greedy piggys, but still I don't know if the business model is doomed if they don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago The issue is if those new singles enter the rough zone (full of people who have not had much success) they’re going to have a very bad experience. Probably the best experience is for then to pair off against other new singles and depart. Some will end up doing that but others will end up stuck in the mud like everyone else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) And that’s the point. When it works, they lose 2 customers forever. It’s a filtering process that removes all the diamonds in the rough. All that’s left is the rough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) I mean that's definitely true and all, but wouldn't they also get a continuous fresh supply of single people (coming of age, breakups). Don't get me wrong I totally get they want that and to keep the users hooked as well, because they're greedy piggys, but still I don't know if the business model is doomed if they don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago The issue is if those new singles enter the rough zone (full of people who have not had much success) they’re going to have a very bad experience. Probably the best experience is for then to pair off against other new singles and depart. Some will end up doing that but others will end up stuck in the mud like everyone else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) I mean that's definitely true and all, but wouldn't they also get a continuous fresh supply of single people (coming of age, breakups). Don't get me wrong I totally get they want that and to keep the users hooked as well, because they're greedy piggys, but still I don't know if the business model is doomed if they don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago The issue is if those new singles enter the rough zone (full of people who have not had much success) they’re going to have a very bad experience. Probably the best experience is for then to pair off against other new singles and depart. Some will end up doing that but others will end up stuck in the mud like everyone else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago The issue is if those new singles enter the rough zone (full of people who have not had much success) they’re going to have a very bad experience. Probably the best experience is for then to pair off against other new singles and depart. Some will end up doing that but others will end up stuck in the mud like everyone else. permalink fedilink source parent