▲ 521 ▼ Freed At Last From Patents, Does Anyone Still Care About MP3? (hackaday.com) submitted 2 years ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 205 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 184 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) Considering most music files are MP3, yes it's still cared about. It's easy and small. You don't need lossless all the time. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Chozo@fedia.io 132 points 2 years ago (5 children) I would argue that most people never need lossless, because most people don't use speakers/headphones with high enough fidelity to produce any acoustic difference to a high-bitrate MP3 in the first place. I used to work with a guy who swore by his FLAC collection, and would listen to it through some $40 Skullcandy earphones. I never understood why. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 98 points 2 years ago The main benefit to lossless is for archival purposes. I can transcode to any format (such as on mobile) without generational quality loss. And it means if a better lossy format comes out in the future, I can use that without issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GargleBlaster@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (1 child) A teacher in my highschool (~16 years ago) "demonstrated" that lossless and mp3 are indistinguishable by playing the same song in different formats.. On 10€ pc speakers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] futatorius@lemm.ee 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] futatorius@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Are you sure? From everything I've heard MP3 bitrates at 192 or above are generally considered to be transparent. In case you want to do it more scientifically, try ABX testing. It's a bit time consuming but it should provide clearer results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Not OP, but I promise you that I can hear what sounds like digital water being thrown over the cymbals when listening to mp3 files below 320 kbps. Even then, every now and then I hear that sound here and there across whatever record I’m listening to. I don’t experience it when listening to records, CDs, or cassettes. My hearing used to be very sensitive. When the whole world was using CRTs, I could tell you who had their tv on just standing outside their house. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kogasa@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago No, they're not sure. You're correct. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well they have the skulls on them. They must be good! People wouldn't have died for them otherwise! Duh!!! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Are you a baddie? permalink fedilink source parent [–] wookiepedia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago If you are using the files played back at different tempos or keyshifted, the difference between lossy and lossless is a lot more apparent. For standard playback at normal pitch, mp3 is just fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 36 points 2 years ago There are better lossy formats, like opus. But MP3 still has its place as it's supported everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Exactly, sometimes you just wanna jam to some mp3's out of an iPod like the good ol days. It's about the ✨vibes✨ permalink fedilink source parent [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Most music files may be MP3s, but music files are rare these days. I wouldn't be surprised if most people under 30 have never interacted with a music file at all, they just use streaming services. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Remavas@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago* I am under 30, and I have interacted with music files. edit: I don't know about where you live, but I am definitely not the exception. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chozo@fedia.io 132 points 2 years ago (5 children) I would argue that most people never need lossless, because most people don't use speakers/headphones with high enough fidelity to produce any acoustic difference to a high-bitrate MP3 in the first place. I used to work with a guy who swore by his FLAC collection, and would listen to it through some $40 Skullcandy earphones. I never understood why. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 98 points 2 years ago The main benefit to lossless is for archival purposes. I can transcode to any format (such as on mobile) without generational quality loss. And it means if a better lossy format comes out in the future, I can use that without issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GargleBlaster@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (1 child) A teacher in my highschool (~16 years ago) "demonstrated" that lossless and mp3 are indistinguishable by playing the same song in different formats.. On 10€ pc speakers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] futatorius@lemm.ee 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] futatorius@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Are you sure? From everything I've heard MP3 bitrates at 192 or above are generally considered to be transparent. In case you want to do it more scientifically, try ABX testing. It's a bit time consuming but it should provide clearer results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Not OP, but I promise you that I can hear what sounds like digital water being thrown over the cymbals when listening to mp3 files below 320 kbps. Even then, every now and then I hear that sound here and there across whatever record I’m listening to. I don’t experience it when listening to records, CDs, or cassettes. My hearing used to be very sensitive. When the whole world was using CRTs, I could tell you who had their tv on just standing outside their house. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kogasa@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago No, they're not sure. You're correct. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well they have the skulls on them. They must be good! People wouldn't have died for them otherwise! Duh!!! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Are you a baddie? permalink fedilink source parent [–] wookiepedia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago If you are using the files played back at different tempos or keyshifted, the difference between lossy and lossless is a lot more apparent. For standard playback at normal pitch, mp3 is just fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 98 points 2 years ago The main benefit to lossless is for archival purposes. I can transcode to any format (such as on mobile) without generational quality loss. And it means if a better lossy format comes out in the future, I can use that without issue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GargleBlaster@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (1 child) A teacher in my highschool (~16 years ago) "demonstrated" that lossless and mp3 are indistinguishable by playing the same song in different formats.. On 10€ pc speakers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] futatorius@lemm.ee 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] futatorius@lemm.ee 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] futatorius@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Are you sure? From everything I've heard MP3 bitrates at 192 or above are generally considered to be transparent. In case you want to do it more scientifically, try ABX testing. It's a bit time consuming but it should provide clearer results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Not OP, but I promise you that I can hear what sounds like digital water being thrown over the cymbals when listening to mp3 files below 320 kbps. Even then, every now and then I hear that sound here and there across whatever record I’m listening to. I don’t experience it when listening to records, CDs, or cassettes. My hearing used to be very sensitive. When the whole world was using CRTs, I could tell you who had their tv on just standing outside their house. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kogasa@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago No, they're not sure. You're correct. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Are you sure? From everything I've heard MP3 bitrates at 192 or above are generally considered to be transparent. In case you want to do it more scientifically, try ABX testing. It's a bit time consuming but it should provide clearer results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Not OP, but I promise you that I can hear what sounds like digital water being thrown over the cymbals when listening to mp3 files below 320 kbps. Even then, every now and then I hear that sound here and there across whatever record I’m listening to. I don’t experience it when listening to records, CDs, or cassettes. My hearing used to be very sensitive. When the whole world was using CRTs, I could tell you who had their tv on just standing outside their house. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kogasa@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago No, they're not sure. You're correct. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Not OP, but I promise you that I can hear what sounds like digital water being thrown over the cymbals when listening to mp3 files below 320 kbps. Even then, every now and then I hear that sound here and there across whatever record I’m listening to. I don’t experience it when listening to records, CDs, or cassettes. My hearing used to be very sensitive. When the whole world was using CRTs, I could tell you who had their tv on just standing outside their house. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kogasa@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago No, they're not sure. You're correct. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well they have the skulls on them. They must be good! People wouldn't have died for them otherwise! Duh!!! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Are you a baddie? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wookiepedia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago If you are using the files played back at different tempos or keyshifted, the difference between lossy and lossless is a lot more apparent. For standard playback at normal pitch, mp3 is just fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 36 points 2 years ago There are better lossy formats, like opus. But MP3 still has its place as it's supported everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Exactly, sometimes you just wanna jam to some mp3's out of an iPod like the good ol days. It's about the ✨vibes✨ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Most music files may be MP3s, but music files are rare these days. I wouldn't be surprised if most people under 30 have never interacted with a music file at all, they just use streaming services. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Remavas@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago* I am under 30, and I have interacted with music files. edit: I don't know about where you live, but I am definitely not the exception. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Remavas@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago* I am under 30, and I have interacted with music files. edit: I don't know about where you live, but I am definitely not the exception. permalink fedilink source parent