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[–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 87 points 2 years ago (2 children) I made an alternative linking to lemm.ee because in general this is a good flyer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cm0002@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago (1 child) We should do a bunch of them with varying non-Tankie instances Like programming.dev or lemmy.blahaj.zone Or maybe even better, have a small table at the bottom with their focuses permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Yeah. join-lemmy.org unfortunately isn’t great because it often points to random semi dead instances. Something like, The instance you join doesn’t matter much — because you can access all content no matter what instance you are on — but it can be nice to be on an instance that shares you interests and values, because you will have to conform to the rules of that instance. Think of it like your clan — it’s like your email being yourname@yourworkplace — you can still email everyone else and see their emails, but it signals something about you, and it has different rules. Here are a couple options: General Purpose: discuss.online (hosted US) lemm.ee lemmy.cafe sh.itjust.works (hosted Canada) Interests: mander.xyz (Science) programming.dev (Programming) infosec.pub (Cybersecurity) lemmynsfw.com (Porn) Diversity: lemmy.blahaj.zone (LGBTQ+) Regions/Langauges: jlai.lu (French) feddit.org (German) lemmy.ca (Canada) aussie.zone (Australia) Ideology: lemmy.dbzer0.com (Anarchism and Piracy) slrpnk.net (Environmentalist Leftists) lemmy.ml (Authoritarian Leftists) Please copypaste my comment and add instances / improve it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 30 points 2 years ago (3 children) I like the idea, but people have said several times that choosing an instance is a barrier for them. I usually go with "Lemmy has 42k monthly active users https://discuss.online/ if you want a server located in the USA (content is still accessible from any server, the most difference latency) https://sopuli.xyz/ if you want a server located in the EU https://vger.app/ if you want an app Feel free if you have any questions" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I think I elaborated too much. Let’s just keep recommending small instances — because the current centralisation on world sucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (6 children) I’ve been thinking of switching instances. But I think part of the problem is the domain names on so many instances are so odd. Lemmy.world is very clean and easy to tell someone verbally, as opposed to say sopudi.xvz or dbzer0 or blahaj.zone. I suppose “discuss.online” isn’t such a bad name. And “midwest.social” but people who are not in the Midwest might not feel like they identify with that geographically. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience. I strongly have the opposite opinion. Let people start on Lemmy.World and once they have experience (like you), they can move to where they want. They're an actual non-profit org out of the Netherlands with professional hosting. Federation is a feature like divorce is a feature. It's extremely important that it exists and is accessible. Not everybody needs to do it. Other servers are a fine option if you know what you're doing and are willing to deal with more issues OR if there's a compelling reason (such as the various regional servers). When federation between lemm.ee and lemmy.world is behind by an hour or two, where do you think users will have a better experience? When 90% of their content is now a couple hours older, that's a worse experience. And spreading people out doesn't really fix anything. It just puts more stress on federation technology. If you spread out all the users, Federation becomes a much harder to manage many to many relationship between all the servers, instead of primarily being a one to many relationship. In short, if you spread out the users equally, suddenly every instance begins to have federation issues with each other, and everyone has a worse experience. With a bigger "main" instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common. The regional servers have more of a balance here. 90% of their content may be old, but the 10% they are up to date with are the things closest to them, most important to them, and maybe in their language. I do appreciate having several general use instances. I just don't want to send newbies there who will generalize their experience to all of Lemmy and the Fediverse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience. Using a Lemmy version so dated they can't remove their uploaded media https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2024/03/04/lemmy-fediverse-gdpr/ fixed in June 24, we are in January: https://join-lemmy.org/news/2024-06-07_-_Lemmy_Release_v0.19.4_-_Image_Proxying_and_Federation_improvements And spreading people out doesn’t really fix anything. https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list Lemm.ee has 3600 monthly active users. SJW 2500. The 17000 users of LW could be spread across other instances without issues. With a bigger “main” instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common. With a bigger main instance, the mods of that instance have a tendency to power trip: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/33541518?scrollToComments=true https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35950760?scrollToComments=true If you want the rest of the platform to trust you, be responsible. This is not Reddit, power trips will be called out. Edit: LW can be slow for some users: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/36299751 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 8 points 2 years ago Lemm.ee permalink fedilink source parent [–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago lemmy.cafe, lemmy.zip, lemmy.one permalink fedilink source parent [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago lemm.ee? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Didn't even mention mine. For a brand new user, they don't know what the fuck is going on there. permalink fedilink source parent [+] chad@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, why not go totally targeted? If there are people here who still have reddit accounts then tailor the graphic for the sub you post in. If its an lgbtqia+ sub, suggest Blahaj, if its a tech sub suggest programming.dev, if its a piracy or data hoarder sub db0 etc etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 4 points 2 years ago Oh indeed, but usually it's on /r/RedditAlternatives so I have no idea what the person I'm talking to is like Also that way my message can work for lurkers too permalink fedilink source parent [–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I have seen your posts on reddit before haha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh definitely ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Wait, are you u/blazealt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, isn't the name explicit enough? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) idk, ive seen people on reddit with the exact same username on both sites, but they're different people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 3 points 2 years ago In this case, it's definitely me :) permalink fedilink source parent [–] chad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Whatever happened to Beehaw? Did they defederate so much to the point that they're not really relevant to other instances? I feel like they had an application process and were just generally walled off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) They also have stopped updating lemmy so they are running on really old software — which makes them incompatible with most apps! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago That makes a lot of sense! I'm browsing with Thunder. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago But it's not true that your instance doesn't matter and you can see everything no matter your instance... permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChadMcTruth@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago Seriously. People need to understand they can shop around for an instance that fits them better. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago (1 child) We should do a bunch of them with varying non-Tankie instances Like programming.dev or lemmy.blahaj.zone Or maybe even better, have a small table at the bottom with their focuses permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Yeah. join-lemmy.org unfortunately isn’t great because it often points to random semi dead instances. Something like, The instance you join doesn’t matter much — because you can access all content no matter what instance you are on — but it can be nice to be on an instance that shares you interests and values, because you will have to conform to the rules of that instance. Think of it like your clan — it’s like your email being yourname@yourworkplace — you can still email everyone else and see their emails, but it signals something about you, and it has different rules. Here are a couple options: General Purpose: discuss.online (hosted US) lemm.ee lemmy.cafe sh.itjust.works (hosted Canada) Interests: mander.xyz (Science) programming.dev (Programming) infosec.pub (Cybersecurity) lemmynsfw.com (Porn) Diversity: lemmy.blahaj.zone (LGBTQ+) Regions/Langauges: jlai.lu (French) feddit.org (German) lemmy.ca (Canada) aussie.zone (Australia) Ideology: lemmy.dbzer0.com (Anarchism and Piracy) slrpnk.net (Environmentalist Leftists) lemmy.ml (Authoritarian Leftists) Please copypaste my comment and add instances / improve it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 30 points 2 years ago (3 children) I like the idea, but people have said several times that choosing an instance is a barrier for them. I usually go with "Lemmy has 42k monthly active users https://discuss.online/ if you want a server located in the USA (content is still accessible from any server, the most difference latency) https://sopuli.xyz/ if you want a server located in the EU https://vger.app/ if you want an app Feel free if you have any questions" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I think I elaborated too much. Let’s just keep recommending small instances — because the current centralisation on world sucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (6 children) I’ve been thinking of switching instances. But I think part of the problem is the domain names on so many instances are so odd. Lemmy.world is very clean and easy to tell someone verbally, as opposed to say sopudi.xvz or dbzer0 or blahaj.zone. I suppose “discuss.online” isn’t such a bad name. And “midwest.social” but people who are not in the Midwest might not feel like they identify with that geographically. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience. I strongly have the opposite opinion. Let people start on Lemmy.World and once they have experience (like you), they can move to where they want. They're an actual non-profit org out of the Netherlands with professional hosting. Federation is a feature like divorce is a feature. It's extremely important that it exists and is accessible. Not everybody needs to do it. Other servers are a fine option if you know what you're doing and are willing to deal with more issues OR if there's a compelling reason (such as the various regional servers). When federation between lemm.ee and lemmy.world is behind by an hour or two, where do you think users will have a better experience? When 90% of their content is now a couple hours older, that's a worse experience. And spreading people out doesn't really fix anything. It just puts more stress on federation technology. If you spread out all the users, Federation becomes a much harder to manage many to many relationship between all the servers, instead of primarily being a one to many relationship. In short, if you spread out the users equally, suddenly every instance begins to have federation issues with each other, and everyone has a worse experience. With a bigger "main" instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common. The regional servers have more of a balance here. 90% of their content may be old, but the 10% they are up to date with are the things closest to them, most important to them, and maybe in their language. I do appreciate having several general use instances. I just don't want to send newbies there who will generalize their experience to all of Lemmy and the Fediverse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience. Using a Lemmy version so dated they can't remove their uploaded media https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2024/03/04/lemmy-fediverse-gdpr/ fixed in June 24, we are in January: https://join-lemmy.org/news/2024-06-07_-_Lemmy_Release_v0.19.4_-_Image_Proxying_and_Federation_improvements And spreading people out doesn’t really fix anything. https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list Lemm.ee has 3600 monthly active users. SJW 2500. The 17000 users of LW could be spread across other instances without issues. With a bigger “main” instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common. With a bigger main instance, the mods of that instance have a tendency to power trip: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/33541518?scrollToComments=true https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35950760?scrollToComments=true If you want the rest of the platform to trust you, be responsible. This is not Reddit, power trips will be called out. Edit: LW can be slow for some users: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/36299751 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 8 points 2 years ago Lemm.ee permalink fedilink source parent [–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago lemmy.cafe, lemmy.zip, lemmy.one permalink fedilink source parent [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago lemm.ee? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Didn't even mention mine. For a brand new user, they don't know what the fuck is going on there. permalink fedilink source parent [+] chad@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, why not go totally targeted? If there are people here who still have reddit accounts then tailor the graphic for the sub you post in. If its an lgbtqia+ sub, suggest Blahaj, if its a tech sub suggest programming.dev, if its a piracy or data hoarder sub db0 etc etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 4 points 2 years ago Oh indeed, but usually it's on /r/RedditAlternatives so I have no idea what the person I'm talking to is like Also that way my message can work for lurkers too permalink fedilink source parent [–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I have seen your posts on reddit before haha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh definitely ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Wait, are you u/blazealt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, isn't the name explicit enough? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) idk, ive seen people on reddit with the exact same username on both sites, but they're different people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 3 points 2 years ago In this case, it's definitely me :) permalink fedilink source parent [–] chad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Whatever happened to Beehaw? Did they defederate so much to the point that they're not really relevant to other instances? I feel like they had an application process and were just generally walled off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) They also have stopped updating lemmy so they are running on really old software — which makes them incompatible with most apps! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago That makes a lot of sense! I'm browsing with Thunder. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago But it's not true that your instance doesn't matter and you can see everything no matter your instance... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Yeah. join-lemmy.org unfortunately isn’t great because it often points to random semi dead instances. Something like, The instance you join doesn’t matter much — because you can access all content no matter what instance you are on — but it can be nice to be on an instance that shares you interests and values, because you will have to conform to the rules of that instance. Think of it like your clan — it’s like your email being yourname@yourworkplace — you can still email everyone else and see their emails, but it signals something about you, and it has different rules. Here are a couple options: General Purpose: discuss.online (hosted US) lemm.ee lemmy.cafe sh.itjust.works (hosted Canada) Interests: mander.xyz (Science) programming.dev (Programming) infosec.pub (Cybersecurity) lemmynsfw.com (Porn) Diversity: lemmy.blahaj.zone (LGBTQ+) Regions/Langauges: jlai.lu (French) feddit.org (German) lemmy.ca (Canada) aussie.zone (Australia) Ideology: lemmy.dbzer0.com (Anarchism and Piracy) slrpnk.net (Environmentalist Leftists) lemmy.ml (Authoritarian Leftists) Please copypaste my comment and add instances / improve it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 30 points 2 years ago (3 children) I like the idea, but people have said several times that choosing an instance is a barrier for them. I usually go with "Lemmy has 42k monthly active users https://discuss.online/ if you want a server located in the USA (content is still accessible from any server, the most difference latency) https://sopuli.xyz/ if you want a server located in the EU https://vger.app/ if you want an app Feel free if you have any questions" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I think I elaborated too much. Let’s just keep recommending small instances — because the current centralisation on world sucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (6 children) I’ve been thinking of switching instances. But I think part of the problem is the domain names on so many instances are so odd. Lemmy.world is very clean and easy to tell someone verbally, as opposed to say sopudi.xvz or dbzer0 or blahaj.zone. I suppose “discuss.online” isn’t such a bad name. And “midwest.social” but people who are not in the Midwest might not feel like they identify with that geographically. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience. I strongly have the opposite opinion. Let people start on Lemmy.World and once they have experience (like you), they can move to where they want. They're an actual non-profit org out of the Netherlands with professional hosting. Federation is a feature like divorce is a feature. It's extremely important that it exists and is accessible. Not everybody needs to do it. Other servers are a fine option if you know what you're doing and are willing to deal with more issues OR if there's a compelling reason (such as the various regional servers). When federation between lemm.ee and lemmy.world is behind by an hour or two, where do you think users will have a better experience? When 90% of their content is now a couple hours older, that's a worse experience. And spreading people out doesn't really fix anything. It just puts more stress on federation technology. If you spread out all the users, Federation becomes a much harder to manage many to many relationship between all the servers, instead of primarily being a one to many relationship. In short, if you spread out the users equally, suddenly every instance begins to have federation issues with each other, and everyone has a worse experience. With a bigger "main" instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common. The regional servers have more of a balance here. 90% of their content may be old, but the 10% they are up to date with are the things closest to them, most important to them, and maybe in their language. I do appreciate having several general use instances. I just don't want to send newbies there who will generalize their experience to all of Lemmy and the Fediverse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience. Using a Lemmy version so dated they can't remove their uploaded media https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2024/03/04/lemmy-fediverse-gdpr/ fixed in June 24, we are in January: https://join-lemmy.org/news/2024-06-07_-_Lemmy_Release_v0.19.4_-_Image_Proxying_and_Federation_improvements And spreading people out doesn’t really fix anything. https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list Lemm.ee has 3600 monthly active users. SJW 2500. The 17000 users of LW could be spread across other instances without issues. With a bigger “main” instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common. With a bigger main instance, the mods of that instance have a tendency to power trip: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/33541518?scrollToComments=true https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35950760?scrollToComments=true If you want the rest of the platform to trust you, be responsible. This is not Reddit, power trips will be called out. Edit: LW can be slow for some users: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/36299751 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 8 points 2 years ago Lemm.ee permalink fedilink source parent [–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago lemmy.cafe, lemmy.zip, lemmy.one permalink fedilink source parent [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago lemm.ee? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Didn't even mention mine. For a brand new user, they don't know what the fuck is going on there. permalink fedilink source parent [+] chad@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, why not go totally targeted? If there are people here who still have reddit accounts then tailor the graphic for the sub you post in. If its an lgbtqia+ sub, suggest Blahaj, if its a tech sub suggest programming.dev, if its a piracy or data hoarder sub db0 etc etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 4 points 2 years ago Oh indeed, but usually it's on /r/RedditAlternatives so I have no idea what the person I'm talking to is like Also that way my message can work for lurkers too permalink fedilink source parent [–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I have seen your posts on reddit before haha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh definitely ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Wait, are you u/blazealt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, isn't the name explicit enough? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) idk, ive seen people on reddit with the exact same username on both sites, but they're different people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 3 points 2 years ago In this case, it's definitely me :) permalink fedilink source parent [–] chad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Whatever happened to Beehaw? Did they defederate so much to the point that they're not really relevant to other instances? I feel like they had an application process and were just generally walled off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) They also have stopped updating lemmy so they are running on really old software — which makes them incompatible with most apps! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago That makes a lot of sense! I'm browsing with Thunder. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago But it's not true that your instance doesn't matter and you can see everything no matter your instance... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 30 points 2 years ago (3 children) I like the idea, but people have said several times that choosing an instance is a barrier for them. I usually go with "Lemmy has 42k monthly active users https://discuss.online/ if you want a server located in the USA (content is still accessible from any server, the most difference latency) https://sopuli.xyz/ if you want a server located in the EU https://vger.app/ if you want an app Feel free if you have any questions" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I think I elaborated too much. Let’s just keep recommending small instances — because the current centralisation on world sucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (6 children) I’ve been thinking of switching instances. But I think part of the problem is the domain names on so many instances are so odd. Lemmy.world is very clean and easy to tell someone verbally, as opposed to say sopudi.xvz or dbzer0 or blahaj.zone. I suppose “discuss.online” isn’t such a bad name. And “midwest.social” but people who are not in the Midwest might not feel like they identify with that geographically. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience. I strongly have the opposite opinion. Let people start on Lemmy.World and once they have experience (like you), they can move to where they want. They're an actual non-profit org out of the Netherlands with professional hosting. Federation is a feature like divorce is a feature. It's extremely important that it exists and is accessible. Not everybody needs to do it. Other servers are a fine option if you know what you're doing and are willing to deal with more issues OR if there's a compelling reason (such as the various regional servers). When federation between lemm.ee and lemmy.world is behind by an hour or two, where do you think users will have a better experience? When 90% of their content is now a couple hours older, that's a worse experience. And spreading people out doesn't really fix anything. It just puts more stress on federation technology. If you spread out all the users, Federation becomes a much harder to manage many to many relationship between all the servers, instead of primarily being a one to many relationship. In short, if you spread out the users equally, suddenly every instance begins to have federation issues with each other, and everyone has a worse experience. With a bigger "main" instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common. The regional servers have more of a balance here. 90% of their content may be old, but the 10% they are up to date with are the things closest to them, most important to them, and maybe in their language. I do appreciate having several general use instances. I just don't want to send newbies there who will generalize their experience to all of Lemmy and the Fediverse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience. Using a Lemmy version so dated they can't remove their uploaded media https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2024/03/04/lemmy-fediverse-gdpr/ fixed in June 24, we are in January: https://join-lemmy.org/news/2024-06-07_-_Lemmy_Release_v0.19.4_-_Image_Proxying_and_Federation_improvements And spreading people out doesn’t really fix anything. https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list Lemm.ee has 3600 monthly active users. SJW 2500. The 17000 users of LW could be spread across other instances without issues. With a bigger “main” instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common. With a bigger main instance, the mods of that instance have a tendency to power trip: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/33541518?scrollToComments=true https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35950760?scrollToComments=true If you want the rest of the platform to trust you, be responsible. This is not Reddit, power trips will be called out. Edit: LW can be slow for some users: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/36299751 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 8 points 2 years ago Lemm.ee permalink fedilink source parent [–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago lemmy.cafe, lemmy.zip, lemmy.one permalink fedilink source parent [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago lemm.ee? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Didn't even mention mine. For a brand new user, they don't know what the fuck is going on there. permalink fedilink source parent [+] chad@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, why not go totally targeted? If there are people here who still have reddit accounts then tailor the graphic for the sub you post in. If its an lgbtqia+ sub, suggest Blahaj, if its a tech sub suggest programming.dev, if its a piracy or data hoarder sub db0 etc etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 4 points 2 years ago Oh indeed, but usually it's on /r/RedditAlternatives so I have no idea what the person I'm talking to is like Also that way my message can work for lurkers too permalink fedilink source parent [–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I have seen your posts on reddit before haha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh definitely ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Wait, are you u/blazealt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, isn't the name explicit enough? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) idk, ive seen people on reddit with the exact same username on both sites, but they're different people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 3 points 2 years ago In this case, it's definitely me :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I think I elaborated too much. Let’s just keep recommending small instances — because the current centralisation on world sucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (6 children) I’ve been thinking of switching instances. But I think part of the problem is the domain names on so many instances are so odd. Lemmy.world is very clean and easy to tell someone verbally, as opposed to say sopudi.xvz or dbzer0 or blahaj.zone. I suppose “discuss.online” isn’t such a bad name. And “midwest.social” but people who are not in the Midwest might not feel like they identify with that geographically. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience. I strongly have the opposite opinion. Let people start on Lemmy.World and once they have experience (like you), they can move to where they want. They're an actual non-profit org out of the Netherlands with professional hosting. Federation is a feature like divorce is a feature. It's extremely important that it exists and is accessible. Not everybody needs to do it. Other servers are a fine option if you know what you're doing and are willing to deal with more issues OR if there's a compelling reason (such as the various regional servers). When federation between lemm.ee and lemmy.world is behind by an hour or two, where do you think users will have a better experience? When 90% of their content is now a couple hours older, that's a worse experience. And spreading people out doesn't really fix anything. It just puts more stress on federation technology. If you spread out all the users, Federation becomes a much harder to manage many to many relationship between all the servers, instead of primarily being a one to many relationship. In short, if you spread out the users equally, suddenly every instance begins to have federation issues with each other, and everyone has a worse experience. With a bigger "main" instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common. The regional servers have more of a balance here. 90% of their content may be old, but the 10% they are up to date with are the things closest to them, most important to them, and maybe in their language. I do appreciate having several general use instances. I just don't want to send newbies there who will generalize their experience to all of Lemmy and the Fediverse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience. Using a Lemmy version so dated they can't remove their uploaded media https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2024/03/04/lemmy-fediverse-gdpr/ fixed in June 24, we are in January: https://join-lemmy.org/news/2024-06-07_-_Lemmy_Release_v0.19.4_-_Image_Proxying_and_Federation_improvements And spreading people out doesn’t really fix anything. https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list Lemm.ee has 3600 monthly active users. SJW 2500. The 17000 users of LW could be spread across other instances without issues. With a bigger “main” instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common. With a bigger main instance, the mods of that instance have a tendency to power trip: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/33541518?scrollToComments=true https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35950760?scrollToComments=true If you want the rest of the platform to trust you, be responsible. This is not Reddit, power trips will be called out. Edit: LW can be slow for some users: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/36299751 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 8 points 2 years ago Lemm.ee permalink fedilink source parent [–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago lemmy.cafe, lemmy.zip, lemmy.one permalink fedilink source parent [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago lemm.ee? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Didn't even mention mine. For a brand new user, they don't know what the fuck is going on there. permalink fedilink source parent [+] chad@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (6 children) I’ve been thinking of switching instances. But I think part of the problem is the domain names on so many instances are so odd. Lemmy.world is very clean and easy to tell someone verbally, as opposed to say sopudi.xvz or dbzer0 or blahaj.zone. I suppose “discuss.online” isn’t such a bad name. And “midwest.social” but people who are not in the Midwest might not feel like they identify with that geographically. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience. I strongly have the opposite opinion. Let people start on Lemmy.World and once they have experience (like you), they can move to where they want. They're an actual non-profit org out of the Netherlands with professional hosting. Federation is a feature like divorce is a feature. It's extremely important that it exists and is accessible. Not everybody needs to do it. Other servers are a fine option if you know what you're doing and are willing to deal with more issues OR if there's a compelling reason (such as the various regional servers). When federation between lemm.ee and lemmy.world is behind by an hour or two, where do you think users will have a better experience? When 90% of their content is now a couple hours older, that's a worse experience. And spreading people out doesn't really fix anything. It just puts more stress on federation technology. If you spread out all the users, Federation becomes a much harder to manage many to many relationship between all the servers, instead of primarily being a one to many relationship. In short, if you spread out the users equally, suddenly every instance begins to have federation issues with each other, and everyone has a worse experience. With a bigger "main" instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common. The regional servers have more of a balance here. 90% of their content may be old, but the 10% they are up to date with are the things closest to them, most important to them, and maybe in their language. I do appreciate having several general use instances. I just don't want to send newbies there who will generalize their experience to all of Lemmy and the Fediverse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience. Using a Lemmy version so dated they can't remove their uploaded media https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2024/03/04/lemmy-fediverse-gdpr/ fixed in June 24, we are in January: https://join-lemmy.org/news/2024-06-07_-_Lemmy_Release_v0.19.4_-_Image_Proxying_and_Federation_improvements And spreading people out doesn’t really fix anything. https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list Lemm.ee has 3600 monthly active users. SJW 2500. The 17000 users of LW could be spread across other instances without issues. With a bigger “main” instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common. With a bigger main instance, the mods of that instance have a tendency to power trip: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/33541518?scrollToComments=true https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35950760?scrollToComments=true If you want the rest of the platform to trust you, be responsible. This is not Reddit, power trips will be called out. Edit: LW can be slow for some users: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/36299751 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 8 points 2 years ago Lemm.ee permalink fedilink source parent [–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago lemmy.cafe, lemmy.zip, lemmy.one permalink fedilink source parent [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago lemm.ee? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Didn't even mention mine. For a brand new user, they don't know what the fuck is going on there. permalink fedilink source parent [+] chad@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience. I strongly have the opposite opinion. Let people start on Lemmy.World and once they have experience (like you), they can move to where they want. They're an actual non-profit org out of the Netherlands with professional hosting. Federation is a feature like divorce is a feature. It's extremely important that it exists and is accessible. Not everybody needs to do it. Other servers are a fine option if you know what you're doing and are willing to deal with more issues OR if there's a compelling reason (such as the various regional servers). When federation between lemm.ee and lemmy.world is behind by an hour or two, where do you think users will have a better experience? When 90% of their content is now a couple hours older, that's a worse experience. And spreading people out doesn't really fix anything. It just puts more stress on federation technology. If you spread out all the users, Federation becomes a much harder to manage many to many relationship between all the servers, instead of primarily being a one to many relationship. In short, if you spread out the users equally, suddenly every instance begins to have federation issues with each other, and everyone has a worse experience. With a bigger "main" instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common. The regional servers have more of a balance here. 90% of their content may be old, but the 10% they are up to date with are the things closest to them, most important to them, and maybe in their language. I do appreciate having several general use instances. I just don't want to send newbies there who will generalize their experience to all of Lemmy and the Fediverse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience. Using a Lemmy version so dated they can't remove their uploaded media https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2024/03/04/lemmy-fediverse-gdpr/ fixed in June 24, we are in January: https://join-lemmy.org/news/2024-06-07_-_Lemmy_Release_v0.19.4_-_Image_Proxying_and_Federation_improvements And spreading people out doesn’t really fix anything. https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list Lemm.ee has 3600 monthly active users. SJW 2500. The 17000 users of LW could be spread across other instances without issues. With a bigger “main” instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common. With a bigger main instance, the mods of that instance have a tendency to power trip: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/33541518?scrollToComments=true https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35950760?scrollToComments=true If you want the rest of the platform to trust you, be responsible. This is not Reddit, power trips will be called out. Edit: LW can be slow for some users: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/36299751 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience. Using a Lemmy version so dated they can't remove their uploaded media https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2024/03/04/lemmy-fediverse-gdpr/ fixed in June 24, we are in January: https://join-lemmy.org/news/2024-06-07_-_Lemmy_Release_v0.19.4_-_Image_Proxying_and_Federation_improvements And spreading people out doesn’t really fix anything. https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list Lemm.ee has 3600 monthly active users. SJW 2500. The 17000 users of LW could be spread across other instances without issues. With a bigger “main” instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common. With a bigger main instance, the mods of that instance have a tendency to power trip: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/33541518?scrollToComments=true https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35950760?scrollToComments=true If you want the rest of the platform to trust you, be responsible. This is not Reddit, power trips will be called out. Edit: LW can be slow for some users: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/36299751 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago lemmy.cafe, lemmy.zip, lemmy.one permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Didn't even mention mine. For a brand new user, they don't know what the fuck is going on there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, why not go totally targeted? If there are people here who still have reddit accounts then tailor the graphic for the sub you post in. If its an lgbtqia+ sub, suggest Blahaj, if its a tech sub suggest programming.dev, if its a piracy or data hoarder sub db0 etc etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 4 points 2 years ago Oh indeed, but usually it's on /r/RedditAlternatives so I have no idea what the person I'm talking to is like Also that way my message can work for lurkers too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 4 points 2 years ago Oh indeed, but usually it's on /r/RedditAlternatives so I have no idea what the person I'm talking to is like Also that way my message can work for lurkers too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I have seen your posts on reddit before haha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh definitely ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Wait, are you u/blazealt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, isn't the name explicit enough? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) idk, ive seen people on reddit with the exact same username on both sites, but they're different people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 3 points 2 years ago In this case, it's definitely me :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh definitely ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Wait, are you u/blazealt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, isn't the name explicit enough? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) idk, ive seen people on reddit with the exact same username on both sites, but they're different people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 3 points 2 years ago In this case, it's definitely me :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Wait, are you u/blazealt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, isn't the name explicit enough? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) idk, ive seen people on reddit with the exact same username on both sites, but they're different people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 3 points 2 years ago In this case, it's definitely me :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, isn't the name explicit enough? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) idk, ive seen people on reddit with the exact same username on both sites, but they're different people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 3 points 2 years ago In this case, it's definitely me :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) idk, ive seen people on reddit with the exact same username on both sites, but they're different people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 3 points 2 years ago In this case, it's definitely me :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 3 points 2 years ago In this case, it's definitely me :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Whatever happened to Beehaw? Did they defederate so much to the point that they're not really relevant to other instances? I feel like they had an application process and were just generally walled off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) They also have stopped updating lemmy so they are running on really old software — which makes them incompatible with most apps! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago That makes a lot of sense! I'm browsing with Thunder. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) They also have stopped updating lemmy so they are running on really old software — which makes them incompatible with most apps! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago That makes a lot of sense! I'm browsing with Thunder. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago That makes a lot of sense! I'm browsing with Thunder. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago But it's not true that your instance doesn't matter and you can see everything no matter your instance... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChadMcTruth@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago Seriously. People need to understand they can shop around for an instance that fits them better. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago Seriously. People need to understand they can shop around for an instance that fits them better. permalink fedilink source parent