▲ 895 ▼ Jewish Leaders Call for Boycott After Elon Musk's Nazi Salute, Holocaust Jokes (futurism.com) submitted 2 years ago by schizoidman@lemm.ee to c/world@lemmy.world 132 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/54702117
[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 110 points 2 years ago (3 children) Notice how the state of Israel has nothing to say about this? permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 92 points 2 years ago (3 children) Nothing to say? The ADL defended Elon! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Holy shit. The Zionist part of the organisation has completely eaten the anti-hate part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* This is going on in lots of places as well too. permalink fedilink source parent [+] yarr@feddit.nl -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, but other than one of the largest Jewish advocacy groups who else is defending him? What would the ADL know about antisemitism anyway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* it's not a Jewish advocacy group. it's a zionist advocacy group. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Are you saying we shouldn't believe our lying eyes? It was a Nazi salute and the emperor has no clothes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yarr@feddit.nl -54 points 2 years ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Show the the two in video form and let's compare, troll. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's almost like nobody has seen the actual video and if they have, they're intentionally misrepresenting what she did. Source of the bullshit appears to be this: https://x.com/emilyraustin/status/1882164579020759417 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) lol she's literally sharing a video of her clearly not doing a salute and saying this is what a nazi salute looks like. can't expect better from a genocidal zionist cunt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago But if you pause it just right and create a screenshot out of context... permalink fedilink source parent [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago* Wait, are you telling me Don Corleone's mustache was never made of leaves? /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] pyre@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) why stills? show a video of her doing this, you little bitch: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago Thank you, not all heroes wear capes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You’re posting pictures that YOU YOURSELF don’t even know the context of. Post the video, pussy. Do it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Timmy_Jizz_Tits@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lowest energy shit in my life. Pathetic. Showing her doing it left handed pretending it's an apples to apples comparison. Stay on Twitter dipshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago You have to use your left hand otherwise your choreography isn't in sync. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hightrix@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago This shit doesn’t work here. Dumbass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Wow imagine being such a pussy you can't admit what you like. Gg permalink fedilink source parent [+] Letsdothis@lemmy.world -64 points 2 years ago (10 children) Yeah... this and other organizations concluded that he didn't perform a nazi salute.... so what's the deal? Why are so many sources still saying he did nazi salute? Right after he did that, he said, "My heart goes out to you." And later denied again. Why such a smear campaign? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You really have to be fucking brainwashed to believe that shit. HE DID IT TWICE IN A ROW THE EXACT SAME WAY Not only did he do it twice in a row the same exact way, but he did a Nazi salute in the exact same manner as Adolf Hitler did and modern neo-nazis do. Zero chance that it was a mistake, it was obviously intentional. No one can tell me that my eyes didn't see a Nazi salute when they did see it as plain as day. What's REALLY fucked up is that people like you are still defending a Nazi salute. You are a Nazi apologist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Letsdothis@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Tell me.... why would he intentionally do a nazi salute? For what purpose? To secretly identify himself as a nazi? But it wasn't secretly at all... He even later denied it was a nazi salute... so... wtf?!?! Why are you people so crazy about this issue? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago Why are you people so crazy about this issue? We really don't like nazis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Your gaslighting attempts are pathetic. As I already said, no one can tell me that my eyes didn't see what they saw, plain as fucking day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Don’t believe your lying eyes people permalink fedilink source parent [–] Timmy_Jizz_Tits@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyPSKLy5E4&t=120s&pp=ygUZZWxvbiBtdXNrIEhpdGxlciBwcm9ibGVtIA%3D%3D Just FYI. Also, notice the date. It's 10 months old and they updated the thumbnail because of how obviously correct they were. Elon Musk was born white and rich in apartheid era south Africa. His family migrated there from Canada after ww2 specifically because the race dynamics at the time. He openly touts blatantly eugenic ideology, fathers 12 children and freezes his sperm because of that ideology. Him doing a nazi salute and making nazi jokes in the aftermath is him just waving his dick around because he knows there's an army of fucking empty headed dumb fucks that will defend him. permalink fedilink source parent [+] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago Many sources are saying he did a nazi salute because, wait for it... He did a nazi salute. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because most people learned the fucking lesson that there is ZERO justification. Inexcusable even as a mistake for someone in that position no matter how he got there, and inexcusable to dismiss it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Letsdothis@lemmy.world -25 points 2 years ago (3 children) Because most people learned the fucking lesson that there is ZERO justification. What "lesson"? So, even if unintentional, any salute even similar to the nazi salute should call for condemnation? The mainstream media are pushing this hard as hell, just raking Elon over the coals. So many here have lost the plot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago You forgot to blame it on his self-diagnosed autism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Elon should have been removed from any sort of power years ago for his shit behavior. All condemnation coming his way is well deserved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Letsdothis@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago The hell are you even talking about? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Obvious bait permalink fedilink source parent [–] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago Do you have a source for him denying it? I saw lots of deflection and incredulity at "liberals" who thought it was a Nazi salute, but I didn't actually see any denial. He won't deny it. Not because he's not willing to lie, but because he's actively courting the support of Nazis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigFab@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) That (nazi salute) isn't antisemitic at all! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (2 children) For fuck sake. My point was that while Independent Jewish leaders are calling for the boycott. The State of Israel on the other hand, is holding hands up with Trump like a tag team. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] phar@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago Pretty sure that was his point too permalink fedilink source parent [–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm pretty sure they understood your point... not sure you got theirs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you want to just spell it out for me so I dont have to guess at what's being insenuated and cause more pointless back and forth argument comments? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago His post was emulating the excuse people use when they are trying to deflect away from something obviously bad. The state of Israel will refuse to say that what Elon did was antisemitic or an actual Nazi salute. They will talk around the subject and say it wasn't ACTUALLY the Nazi salute, just him being exuberant in the moment. Or they will point out that the salute was around in Roman times and isn't actually an antisemitic salute even though Hitler used it, just like people will point out that the swastika is an ancient symbol from Hinduism so it also isn't antisemitic. He was agreeing with you, basically. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) You’re right, it isn’t! Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism. In fact, I’m pretty sure it is in direct OPPOSITION to Judaism, if you follow the fundamentals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 point 2 years ago For a religion this old, you will find a lot of people with different ideas about the "fundamentals". There is a lot of Jewish scholars that reject Zionism and in particular in the beginning of the Zionist movement it was strongly opposed by religious scholars. They had to work quite extensively to create a "new understanding" of how to mix Zionism with Judaism, which over the time led to there now being particularly extreme Zionists, who claim to base it off of Judaism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism#Early_Jewish_anti-Zionism permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigFab@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Help me understand your point, pls. I wasn't talking about zionism nor judaism. Plain nazism. Which killed millions of jews, equalling antisemitism. Especially nowadays when any statement is lightly attributed to antisemitism, a nazi salute could qualify as? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's because Isreal has been slowly co-opted by xenophobic right wing extramists under the guise of survival. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago Always has been. Pre WW2 socialist Jewish currents pretty much all unanimously opposed Zionism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 92 points 2 years ago (3 children) Nothing to say? The ADL defended Elon! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Holy shit. The Zionist part of the organisation has completely eaten the anti-hate part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* This is going on in lots of places as well too. permalink fedilink source parent [+] yarr@feddit.nl -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, but other than one of the largest Jewish advocacy groups who else is defending him? What would the ADL know about antisemitism anyway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* it's not a Jewish advocacy group. it's a zionist advocacy group. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Are you saying we shouldn't believe our lying eyes? It was a Nazi salute and the emperor has no clothes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yarr@feddit.nl -54 points 2 years ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Show the the two in video form and let's compare, troll. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's almost like nobody has seen the actual video and if they have, they're intentionally misrepresenting what she did. Source of the bullshit appears to be this: https://x.com/emilyraustin/status/1882164579020759417 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) lol she's literally sharing a video of her clearly not doing a salute and saying this is what a nazi salute looks like. can't expect better from a genocidal zionist cunt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago But if you pause it just right and create a screenshot out of context... permalink fedilink source parent [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago* Wait, are you telling me Don Corleone's mustache was never made of leaves? /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] pyre@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) why stills? show a video of her doing this, you little bitch: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago Thank you, not all heroes wear capes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You’re posting pictures that YOU YOURSELF don’t even know the context of. Post the video, pussy. Do it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Timmy_Jizz_Tits@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lowest energy shit in my life. Pathetic. Showing her doing it left handed pretending it's an apples to apples comparison. Stay on Twitter dipshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago You have to use your left hand otherwise your choreography isn't in sync. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hightrix@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago This shit doesn’t work here. Dumbass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Wow imagine being such a pussy you can't admit what you like. Gg permalink fedilink source parent [+] Letsdothis@lemmy.world -64 points 2 years ago (10 children) Yeah... this and other organizations concluded that he didn't perform a nazi salute.... so what's the deal? Why are so many sources still saying he did nazi salute? Right after he did that, he said, "My heart goes out to you." And later denied again. Why such a smear campaign? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You really have to be fucking brainwashed to believe that shit. HE DID IT TWICE IN A ROW THE EXACT SAME WAY Not only did he do it twice in a row the same exact way, but he did a Nazi salute in the exact same manner as Adolf Hitler did and modern neo-nazis do. Zero chance that it was a mistake, it was obviously intentional. No one can tell me that my eyes didn't see a Nazi salute when they did see it as plain as day. What's REALLY fucked up is that people like you are still defending a Nazi salute. You are a Nazi apologist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Letsdothis@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Tell me.... why would he intentionally do a nazi salute? For what purpose? To secretly identify himself as a nazi? But it wasn't secretly at all... He even later denied it was a nazi salute... so... wtf?!?! Why are you people so crazy about this issue? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago Why are you people so crazy about this issue? We really don't like nazis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Your gaslighting attempts are pathetic. As I already said, no one can tell me that my eyes didn't see what they saw, plain as fucking day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Don’t believe your lying eyes people permalink fedilink source parent [–] Timmy_Jizz_Tits@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyPSKLy5E4&t=120s&pp=ygUZZWxvbiBtdXNrIEhpdGxlciBwcm9ibGVtIA%3D%3D Just FYI. Also, notice the date. It's 10 months old and they updated the thumbnail because of how obviously correct they were. Elon Musk was born white and rich in apartheid era south Africa. His family migrated there from Canada after ww2 specifically because the race dynamics at the time. He openly touts blatantly eugenic ideology, fathers 12 children and freezes his sperm because of that ideology. Him doing a nazi salute and making nazi jokes in the aftermath is him just waving his dick around because he knows there's an army of fucking empty headed dumb fucks that will defend him. permalink fedilink source parent [+] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago Many sources are saying he did a nazi salute because, wait for it... He did a nazi salute. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because most people learned the fucking lesson that there is ZERO justification. Inexcusable even as a mistake for someone in that position no matter how he got there, and inexcusable to dismiss it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Letsdothis@lemmy.world -25 points 2 years ago (3 children) Because most people learned the fucking lesson that there is ZERO justification. What "lesson"? So, even if unintentional, any salute even similar to the nazi salute should call for condemnation? The mainstream media are pushing this hard as hell, just raking Elon over the coals. So many here have lost the plot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago You forgot to blame it on his self-diagnosed autism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Elon should have been removed from any sort of power years ago for his shit behavior. All condemnation coming his way is well deserved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Letsdothis@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago The hell are you even talking about? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Obvious bait permalink fedilink source parent [–] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago Do you have a source for him denying it? I saw lots of deflection and incredulity at "liberals" who thought it was a Nazi salute, but I didn't actually see any denial. He won't deny it. Not because he's not willing to lie, but because he's actively courting the support of Nazis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Holy shit. The Zionist part of the organisation has completely eaten the anti-hate part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* This is going on in lots of places as well too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* This is going on in lots of places as well too. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] yarr@feddit.nl -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, but other than one of the largest Jewish advocacy groups who else is defending him? What would the ADL know about antisemitism anyway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* it's not a Jewish advocacy group. it's a zionist advocacy group. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Are you saying we shouldn't believe our lying eyes? It was a Nazi salute and the emperor has no clothes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yarr@feddit.nl -54 points 2 years ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Show the the two in video form and let's compare, troll. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's almost like nobody has seen the actual video and if they have, they're intentionally misrepresenting what she did. Source of the bullshit appears to be this: https://x.com/emilyraustin/status/1882164579020759417 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) lol she's literally sharing a video of her clearly not doing a salute and saying this is what a nazi salute looks like. can't expect better from a genocidal zionist cunt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago But if you pause it just right and create a screenshot out of context... permalink fedilink source parent [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago* Wait, are you telling me Don Corleone's mustache was never made of leaves? /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] pyre@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) why stills? show a video of her doing this, you little bitch: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago Thank you, not all heroes wear capes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You’re posting pictures that YOU YOURSELF don’t even know the context of. Post the video, pussy. Do it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Timmy_Jizz_Tits@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lowest energy shit in my life. Pathetic. Showing her doing it left handed pretending it's an apples to apples comparison. Stay on Twitter dipshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago You have to use your left hand otherwise your choreography isn't in sync. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hightrix@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago This shit doesn’t work here. Dumbass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Wow imagine being such a pussy you can't admit what you like. Gg permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* it's not a Jewish advocacy group. it's a zionist advocacy group. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Are you saying we shouldn't believe our lying eyes? It was a Nazi salute and the emperor has no clothes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yarr@feddit.nl -54 points 2 years ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Show the the two in video form and let's compare, troll. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's almost like nobody has seen the actual video and if they have, they're intentionally misrepresenting what she did. Source of the bullshit appears to be this: https://x.com/emilyraustin/status/1882164579020759417 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) lol she's literally sharing a video of her clearly not doing a salute and saying this is what a nazi salute looks like. can't expect better from a genocidal zionist cunt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago But if you pause it just right and create a screenshot out of context... permalink fedilink source parent [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago* Wait, are you telling me Don Corleone's mustache was never made of leaves? /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] pyre@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) why stills? show a video of her doing this, you little bitch: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago Thank you, not all heroes wear capes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You’re posting pictures that YOU YOURSELF don’t even know the context of. Post the video, pussy. Do it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Timmy_Jizz_Tits@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lowest energy shit in my life. Pathetic. Showing her doing it left handed pretending it's an apples to apples comparison. Stay on Twitter dipshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago You have to use your left hand otherwise your choreography isn't in sync. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hightrix@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago This shit doesn’t work here. Dumbass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Wow imagine being such a pussy you can't admit what you like. Gg permalink fedilink source parent
[+] yarr@feddit.nl -54 points 2 years ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Show the the two in video form and let's compare, troll. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's almost like nobody has seen the actual video and if they have, they're intentionally misrepresenting what she did. Source of the bullshit appears to be this: https://x.com/emilyraustin/status/1882164579020759417 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) lol she's literally sharing a video of her clearly not doing a salute and saying this is what a nazi salute looks like. can't expect better from a genocidal zionist cunt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago But if you pause it just right and create a screenshot out of context... permalink fedilink source parent [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago* Wait, are you telling me Don Corleone's mustache was never made of leaves? /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] pyre@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) why stills? show a video of her doing this, you little bitch: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago Thank you, not all heroes wear capes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You’re posting pictures that YOU YOURSELF don’t even know the context of. Post the video, pussy. Do it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Timmy_Jizz_Tits@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lowest energy shit in my life. Pathetic. Showing her doing it left handed pretending it's an apples to apples comparison. Stay on Twitter dipshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago You have to use your left hand otherwise your choreography isn't in sync. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hightrix@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago This shit doesn’t work here. Dumbass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Wow imagine being such a pussy you can't admit what you like. Gg permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Show the the two in video form and let's compare, troll. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's almost like nobody has seen the actual video and if they have, they're intentionally misrepresenting what she did. Source of the bullshit appears to be this: https://x.com/emilyraustin/status/1882164579020759417 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) lol she's literally sharing a video of her clearly not doing a salute and saying this is what a nazi salute looks like. can't expect better from a genocidal zionist cunt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago But if you pause it just right and create a screenshot out of context... permalink fedilink source parent [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago* Wait, are you telling me Don Corleone's mustache was never made of leaves? /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's almost like nobody has seen the actual video and if they have, they're intentionally misrepresenting what she did. Source of the bullshit appears to be this: https://x.com/emilyraustin/status/1882164579020759417 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) lol she's literally sharing a video of her clearly not doing a salute and saying this is what a nazi salute looks like. can't expect better from a genocidal zionist cunt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago But if you pause it just right and create a screenshot out of context... permalink fedilink source parent [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago* Wait, are you telling me Don Corleone's mustache was never made of leaves? /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) lol she's literally sharing a video of her clearly not doing a salute and saying this is what a nazi salute looks like. can't expect better from a genocidal zionist cunt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago But if you pause it just right and create a screenshot out of context... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago But if you pause it just right and create a screenshot out of context... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago* Wait, are you telling me Don Corleone's mustache was never made of leaves? /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) why stills? show a video of her doing this, you little bitch: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago Thank you, not all heroes wear capes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago Thank you, not all heroes wear capes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You’re posting pictures that YOU YOURSELF don’t even know the context of. Post the video, pussy. Do it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Timmy_Jizz_Tits@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lowest energy shit in my life. Pathetic. Showing her doing it left handed pretending it's an apples to apples comparison. Stay on Twitter dipshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago You have to use your left hand otherwise your choreography isn't in sync. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago You have to use your left hand otherwise your choreography isn't in sync. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago This shit doesn’t work here. Dumbass. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Wow imagine being such a pussy you can't admit what you like. Gg permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Letsdothis@lemmy.world -64 points 2 years ago (10 children) Yeah... this and other organizations concluded that he didn't perform a nazi salute.... so what's the deal? Why are so many sources still saying he did nazi salute? Right after he did that, he said, "My heart goes out to you." And later denied again. Why such a smear campaign? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You really have to be fucking brainwashed to believe that shit. HE DID IT TWICE IN A ROW THE EXACT SAME WAY Not only did he do it twice in a row the same exact way, but he did a Nazi salute in the exact same manner as Adolf Hitler did and modern neo-nazis do. Zero chance that it was a mistake, it was obviously intentional. No one can tell me that my eyes didn't see a Nazi salute when they did see it as plain as day. What's REALLY fucked up is that people like you are still defending a Nazi salute. You are a Nazi apologist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Letsdothis@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Tell me.... why would he intentionally do a nazi salute? For what purpose? To secretly identify himself as a nazi? But it wasn't secretly at all... He even later denied it was a nazi salute... so... wtf?!?! Why are you people so crazy about this issue? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago Why are you people so crazy about this issue? We really don't like nazis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Your gaslighting attempts are pathetic. As I already said, no one can tell me that my eyes didn't see what they saw, plain as fucking day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Don’t believe your lying eyes people permalink fedilink source parent [–] Timmy_Jizz_Tits@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyPSKLy5E4&t=120s&pp=ygUZZWxvbiBtdXNrIEhpdGxlciBwcm9ibGVtIA%3D%3D Just FYI. Also, notice the date. It's 10 months old and they updated the thumbnail because of how obviously correct they were. Elon Musk was born white and rich in apartheid era south Africa. His family migrated there from Canada after ww2 specifically because the race dynamics at the time. He openly touts blatantly eugenic ideology, fathers 12 children and freezes his sperm because of that ideology. Him doing a nazi salute and making nazi jokes in the aftermath is him just waving his dick around because he knows there's an army of fucking empty headed dumb fucks that will defend him. permalink fedilink source parent [+] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago Many sources are saying he did a nazi salute because, wait for it... He did a nazi salute. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because most people learned the fucking lesson that there is ZERO justification. Inexcusable even as a mistake for someone in that position no matter how he got there, and inexcusable to dismiss it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Letsdothis@lemmy.world -25 points 2 years ago (3 children) Because most people learned the fucking lesson that there is ZERO justification. What "lesson"? So, even if unintentional, any salute even similar to the nazi salute should call for condemnation? The mainstream media are pushing this hard as hell, just raking Elon over the coals. So many here have lost the plot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago You forgot to blame it on his self-diagnosed autism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Elon should have been removed from any sort of power years ago for his shit behavior. All condemnation coming his way is well deserved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Letsdothis@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago The hell are you even talking about? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Obvious bait permalink fedilink source parent [–] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago Do you have a source for him denying it? I saw lots of deflection and incredulity at "liberals" who thought it was a Nazi salute, but I didn't actually see any denial. He won't deny it. Not because he's not willing to lie, but because he's actively courting the support of Nazis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You really have to be fucking brainwashed to believe that shit. HE DID IT TWICE IN A ROW THE EXACT SAME WAY Not only did he do it twice in a row the same exact way, but he did a Nazi salute in the exact same manner as Adolf Hitler did and modern neo-nazis do. Zero chance that it was a mistake, it was obviously intentional. No one can tell me that my eyes didn't see a Nazi salute when they did see it as plain as day. What's REALLY fucked up is that people like you are still defending a Nazi salute. You are a Nazi apologist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Letsdothis@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Tell me.... why would he intentionally do a nazi salute? For what purpose? To secretly identify himself as a nazi? But it wasn't secretly at all... He even later denied it was a nazi salute... so... wtf?!?! Why are you people so crazy about this issue? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago Why are you people so crazy about this issue? We really don't like nazis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Your gaslighting attempts are pathetic. As I already said, no one can tell me that my eyes didn't see what they saw, plain as fucking day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Letsdothis@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Tell me.... why would he intentionally do a nazi salute? For what purpose? To secretly identify himself as a nazi? But it wasn't secretly at all... He even later denied it was a nazi salute... so... wtf?!?! Why are you people so crazy about this issue? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago Why are you people so crazy about this issue? We really don't like nazis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Your gaslighting attempts are pathetic. As I already said, no one can tell me that my eyes didn't see what they saw, plain as fucking day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago Why are you people so crazy about this issue? We really don't like nazis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Your gaslighting attempts are pathetic. As I already said, no one can tell me that my eyes didn't see what they saw, plain as fucking day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Don’t believe your lying eyes people permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Timmy_Jizz_Tits@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyPSKLy5E4&t=120s&pp=ygUZZWxvbiBtdXNrIEhpdGxlciBwcm9ibGVtIA%3D%3D Just FYI. Also, notice the date. It's 10 months old and they updated the thumbnail because of how obviously correct they were. Elon Musk was born white and rich in apartheid era south Africa. His family migrated there from Canada after ww2 specifically because the race dynamics at the time. He openly touts blatantly eugenic ideology, fathers 12 children and freezes his sperm because of that ideology. Him doing a nazi salute and making nazi jokes in the aftermath is him just waving his dick around because he knows there's an army of fucking empty headed dumb fucks that will defend him. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ameancow@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago Many sources are saying he did a nazi salute because, wait for it... He did a nazi salute. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ameancow@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because most people learned the fucking lesson that there is ZERO justification. Inexcusable even as a mistake for someone in that position no matter how he got there, and inexcusable to dismiss it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Letsdothis@lemmy.world -25 points 2 years ago (3 children) Because most people learned the fucking lesson that there is ZERO justification. What "lesson"? So, even if unintentional, any salute even similar to the nazi salute should call for condemnation? The mainstream media are pushing this hard as hell, just raking Elon over the coals. So many here have lost the plot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago You forgot to blame it on his self-diagnosed autism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Elon should have been removed from any sort of power years ago for his shit behavior. All condemnation coming his way is well deserved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Letsdothis@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago The hell are you even talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Letsdothis@lemmy.world -25 points 2 years ago (3 children) Because most people learned the fucking lesson that there is ZERO justification. What "lesson"? So, even if unintentional, any salute even similar to the nazi salute should call for condemnation? The mainstream media are pushing this hard as hell, just raking Elon over the coals. So many here have lost the plot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago You forgot to blame it on his self-diagnosed autism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Elon should have been removed from any sort of power years ago for his shit behavior. All condemnation coming his way is well deserved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Letsdothis@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago The hell are you even talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago You forgot to blame it on his self-diagnosed autism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Elon should have been removed from any sort of power years ago for his shit behavior. All condemnation coming his way is well deserved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Letsdothis@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago The hell are you even talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Letsdothis@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago The hell are you even talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago Do you have a source for him denying it? I saw lots of deflection and incredulity at "liberals" who thought it was a Nazi salute, but I didn't actually see any denial. He won't deny it. Not because he's not willing to lie, but because he's actively courting the support of Nazis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) That (nazi salute) isn't antisemitic at all! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (2 children) For fuck sake. My point was that while Independent Jewish leaders are calling for the boycott. The State of Israel on the other hand, is holding hands up with Trump like a tag team. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] phar@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago Pretty sure that was his point too permalink fedilink source parent [–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm pretty sure they understood your point... not sure you got theirs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you want to just spell it out for me so I dont have to guess at what's being insenuated and cause more pointless back and forth argument comments? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago His post was emulating the excuse people use when they are trying to deflect away from something obviously bad. The state of Israel will refuse to say that what Elon did was antisemitic or an actual Nazi salute. They will talk around the subject and say it wasn't ACTUALLY the Nazi salute, just him being exuberant in the moment. Or they will point out that the salute was around in Roman times and isn't actually an antisemitic salute even though Hitler used it, just like people will point out that the swastika is an ancient symbol from Hinduism so it also isn't antisemitic. He was agreeing with you, basically. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) You’re right, it isn’t! Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism. In fact, I’m pretty sure it is in direct OPPOSITION to Judaism, if you follow the fundamentals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 point 2 years ago For a religion this old, you will find a lot of people with different ideas about the "fundamentals". There is a lot of Jewish scholars that reject Zionism and in particular in the beginning of the Zionist movement it was strongly opposed by religious scholars. They had to work quite extensively to create a "new understanding" of how to mix Zionism with Judaism, which over the time led to there now being particularly extreme Zionists, who claim to base it off of Judaism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism#Early_Jewish_anti-Zionism permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigFab@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Help me understand your point, pls. I wasn't talking about zionism nor judaism. Plain nazism. Which killed millions of jews, equalling antisemitism. Especially nowadays when any statement is lightly attributed to antisemitism, a nazi salute could qualify as? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (2 children) For fuck sake. My point was that while Independent Jewish leaders are calling for the boycott. The State of Israel on the other hand, is holding hands up with Trump like a tag team. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] phar@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago Pretty sure that was his point too permalink fedilink source parent [–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm pretty sure they understood your point... not sure you got theirs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you want to just spell it out for me so I dont have to guess at what's being insenuated and cause more pointless back and forth argument comments? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago His post was emulating the excuse people use when they are trying to deflect away from something obviously bad. The state of Israel will refuse to say that what Elon did was antisemitic or an actual Nazi salute. They will talk around the subject and say it wasn't ACTUALLY the Nazi salute, just him being exuberant in the moment. Or they will point out that the salute was around in Roman times and isn't actually an antisemitic salute even though Hitler used it, just like people will point out that the swastika is an ancient symbol from Hinduism so it also isn't antisemitic. He was agreeing with you, basically. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phar@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago Pretty sure that was his point too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm pretty sure they understood your point... not sure you got theirs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you want to just spell it out for me so I dont have to guess at what's being insenuated and cause more pointless back and forth argument comments? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago His post was emulating the excuse people use when they are trying to deflect away from something obviously bad. The state of Israel will refuse to say that what Elon did was antisemitic or an actual Nazi salute. They will talk around the subject and say it wasn't ACTUALLY the Nazi salute, just him being exuberant in the moment. Or they will point out that the salute was around in Roman times and isn't actually an antisemitic salute even though Hitler used it, just like people will point out that the swastika is an ancient symbol from Hinduism so it also isn't antisemitic. He was agreeing with you, basically. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you want to just spell it out for me so I dont have to guess at what's being insenuated and cause more pointless back and forth argument comments? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago His post was emulating the excuse people use when they are trying to deflect away from something obviously bad. The state of Israel will refuse to say that what Elon did was antisemitic or an actual Nazi salute. They will talk around the subject and say it wasn't ACTUALLY the Nazi salute, just him being exuberant in the moment. Or they will point out that the salute was around in Roman times and isn't actually an antisemitic salute even though Hitler used it, just like people will point out that the swastika is an ancient symbol from Hinduism so it also isn't antisemitic. He was agreeing with you, basically. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago His post was emulating the excuse people use when they are trying to deflect away from something obviously bad. The state of Israel will refuse to say that what Elon did was antisemitic or an actual Nazi salute. They will talk around the subject and say it wasn't ACTUALLY the Nazi salute, just him being exuberant in the moment. Or they will point out that the salute was around in Roman times and isn't actually an antisemitic salute even though Hitler used it, just like people will point out that the swastika is an ancient symbol from Hinduism so it also isn't antisemitic. He was agreeing with you, basically. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) You’re right, it isn’t! Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism. In fact, I’m pretty sure it is in direct OPPOSITION to Judaism, if you follow the fundamentals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 point 2 years ago For a religion this old, you will find a lot of people with different ideas about the "fundamentals". There is a lot of Jewish scholars that reject Zionism and in particular in the beginning of the Zionist movement it was strongly opposed by religious scholars. They had to work quite extensively to create a "new understanding" of how to mix Zionism with Judaism, which over the time led to there now being particularly extreme Zionists, who claim to base it off of Judaism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism#Early_Jewish_anti-Zionism permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigFab@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Help me understand your point, pls. I wasn't talking about zionism nor judaism. Plain nazism. Which killed millions of jews, equalling antisemitism. Especially nowadays when any statement is lightly attributed to antisemitism, a nazi salute could qualify as? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 point 2 years ago For a religion this old, you will find a lot of people with different ideas about the "fundamentals". There is a lot of Jewish scholars that reject Zionism and in particular in the beginning of the Zionist movement it was strongly opposed by religious scholars. They had to work quite extensively to create a "new understanding" of how to mix Zionism with Judaism, which over the time led to there now being particularly extreme Zionists, who claim to base it off of Judaism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism#Early_Jewish_anti-Zionism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Help me understand your point, pls. I wasn't talking about zionism nor judaism. Plain nazism. Which killed millions of jews, equalling antisemitism. Especially nowadays when any statement is lightly attributed to antisemitism, a nazi salute could qualify as? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's because Isreal has been slowly co-opted by xenophobic right wing extramists under the guise of survival. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago Always has been. Pre WW2 socialist Jewish currents pretty much all unanimously opposed Zionism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago Always has been. Pre WW2 socialist Jewish currents pretty much all unanimously opposed Zionism. permalink fedilink source parent