▲ 495 ▼ 14-year-old gang raped, cut into pieces while alive and burned in furnace. (timesofindia.indiatimes.com) submitted 2 years ago* by ruford1976@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 219 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Maybe not, but it is a humane thing to do, and it removes the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bobman@unilem.org -10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah. Torture is fine, so is a simple bullet to the back of the head. Whichever is a bigger deterrent for these crimes should be enacted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) people don't commit these crimes with the expectation that they're going to be caught. I don't know how serious you are but I find it a little disturbing to condone torture permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bobman@unilem.org -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you think would be a more effective deterrent? Sorry reality disturbs you. Let me know when you think of something better. It looks like these people weren't deterred by the possible consequences of their actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Anything but giving governments the power to torture people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bobman@unilem.org -10 points 2 years ago Alright. That's not a suggestion, but ok. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Knowing that one's existence will cease if they commit such crimes should serve as a sufficient deterrent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elscallr@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) It doesn't, though. There's no evidence that the death penalty serves any sort of deterrent. It isn't a punitive measure, it's vengeance. If you're ok with vengeance I respect your opinion though I disagree, but we can't pretend it's anything but vengeance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I believe the use of the death penalty in severe cases isn't driven by vengeance; it's more about preventing the individual from causing harm to others in the future. It's important to recognize that not all criminals can be successfully rehabilitated, such as psychopaths or serial killers. However, if the death penalty were to exist, I believe it should be carried out by the person who pronounces the verdict personally. This would ensure that such a grave decision is not made lightly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elscallr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could you not prevent them from causing additional harm by not killing them? What if you're wrong? There's plenty of reason to leave them alive, but only one real reason to kill them, and that reason is vengeance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago Are you familiar with how the psychopathic mind functions? They lack empathy, and I don't mean it in a pejorative sense, no, I mean it literally. Psychopaths are hard to reason with due to their lack of aforementioned empathy, manipulative nature, impulsivity, shallow emotions, and absence of remorse. If they killed once, they will kill again. permalink fedilink source parent [+] bobman@unilem.org -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about torturing them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) As a society, we should strive to be better than the people we judge for their crimes. Torturing people is just wrong, cruel, and unnecessary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bobman@unilem.org -13 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm sorry you feel that way. Maybe when you get more life experience, you'll realize that most scumbags will only avoid engaging in heinous acts if the deterrent for doing so is appropriate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elscallr@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago If that was a deterrent you wouldn't have people still working for Mexican cartels, would you? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RoquetteQueen@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let's say we do decide to torture murderers. Who is going to torture them? Are we going to pay for these people to have therapy (because they're really going to need it)? How would you feel if you found out your next-door neighbour tortures people for a living? What do we do when we find out, years later, that we've been torturing an innocent person? I think you need a little more life experience so you can realize that things aren't as simple as you seem to think they are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gee, how did we ever do it in the past? It's never been done before, lol. I think you need a little more life experience so you can realize that things aren’t as simple as you seem to think they are. Study history, then come back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, what could go wrong with doing things the way they were done in the past? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You were arguing that it was impossible. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You were arguing that it was the right thing to do. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 2 years ago Sure, bud. Goodbye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago Who are you talking to? That was my first comment here. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] bobman@unilem.org -10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah. Torture is fine, so is a simple bullet to the back of the head. Whichever is a bigger deterrent for these crimes should be enacted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) people don't commit these crimes with the expectation that they're going to be caught. I don't know how serious you are but I find it a little disturbing to condone torture permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bobman@unilem.org -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you think would be a more effective deterrent? Sorry reality disturbs you. Let me know when you think of something better. It looks like these people weren't deterred by the possible consequences of their actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Anything but giving governments the power to torture people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bobman@unilem.org -10 points 2 years ago Alright. That's not a suggestion, but ok. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Knowing that one's existence will cease if they commit such crimes should serve as a sufficient deterrent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elscallr@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) It doesn't, though. There's no evidence that the death penalty serves any sort of deterrent. It isn't a punitive measure, it's vengeance. If you're ok with vengeance I respect your opinion though I disagree, but we can't pretend it's anything but vengeance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I believe the use of the death penalty in severe cases isn't driven by vengeance; it's more about preventing the individual from causing harm to others in the future. It's important to recognize that not all criminals can be successfully rehabilitated, such as psychopaths or serial killers. However, if the death penalty were to exist, I believe it should be carried out by the person who pronounces the verdict personally. This would ensure that such a grave decision is not made lightly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elscallr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could you not prevent them from causing additional harm by not killing them? What if you're wrong? There's plenty of reason to leave them alive, but only one real reason to kill them, and that reason is vengeance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago Are you familiar with how the psychopathic mind functions? They lack empathy, and I don't mean it in a pejorative sense, no, I mean it literally. Psychopaths are hard to reason with due to their lack of aforementioned empathy, manipulative nature, impulsivity, shallow emotions, and absence of remorse. If they killed once, they will kill again. permalink fedilink source parent [+] bobman@unilem.org -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about torturing them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) As a society, we should strive to be better than the people we judge for their crimes. Torturing people is just wrong, cruel, and unnecessary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bobman@unilem.org -13 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm sorry you feel that way. Maybe when you get more life experience, you'll realize that most scumbags will only avoid engaging in heinous acts if the deterrent for doing so is appropriate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elscallr@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago If that was a deterrent you wouldn't have people still working for Mexican cartels, would you? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RoquetteQueen@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let's say we do decide to torture murderers. Who is going to torture them? Are we going to pay for these people to have therapy (because they're really going to need it)? How would you feel if you found out your next-door neighbour tortures people for a living? What do we do when we find out, years later, that we've been torturing an innocent person? I think you need a little more life experience so you can realize that things aren't as simple as you seem to think they are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gee, how did we ever do it in the past? It's never been done before, lol. I think you need a little more life experience so you can realize that things aren’t as simple as you seem to think they are. Study history, then come back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, what could go wrong with doing things the way they were done in the past? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You were arguing that it was impossible. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You were arguing that it was the right thing to do. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 2 years ago Sure, bud. Goodbye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago Who are you talking to? That was my first comment here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) people don't commit these crimes with the expectation that they're going to be caught. I don't know how serious you are but I find it a little disturbing to condone torture permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bobman@unilem.org -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you think would be a more effective deterrent? Sorry reality disturbs you. Let me know when you think of something better. It looks like these people weren't deterred by the possible consequences of their actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Anything but giving governments the power to torture people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bobman@unilem.org -10 points 2 years ago Alright. That's not a suggestion, but ok. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] bobman@unilem.org -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you think would be a more effective deterrent? Sorry reality disturbs you. Let me know when you think of something better. It looks like these people weren't deterred by the possible consequences of their actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Anything but giving governments the power to torture people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bobman@unilem.org -10 points 2 years ago Alright. That's not a suggestion, but ok. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Anything but giving governments the power to torture people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bobman@unilem.org -10 points 2 years ago Alright. That's not a suggestion, but ok. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] bobman@unilem.org -10 points 2 years ago Alright. That's not a suggestion, but ok. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Knowing that one's existence will cease if they commit such crimes should serve as a sufficient deterrent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elscallr@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) It doesn't, though. There's no evidence that the death penalty serves any sort of deterrent. It isn't a punitive measure, it's vengeance. If you're ok with vengeance I respect your opinion though I disagree, but we can't pretend it's anything but vengeance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I believe the use of the death penalty in severe cases isn't driven by vengeance; it's more about preventing the individual from causing harm to others in the future. It's important to recognize that not all criminals can be successfully rehabilitated, such as psychopaths or serial killers. However, if the death penalty were to exist, I believe it should be carried out by the person who pronounces the verdict personally. This would ensure that such a grave decision is not made lightly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elscallr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could you not prevent them from causing additional harm by not killing them? What if you're wrong? There's plenty of reason to leave them alive, but only one real reason to kill them, and that reason is vengeance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago Are you familiar with how the psychopathic mind functions? They lack empathy, and I don't mean it in a pejorative sense, no, I mean it literally. Psychopaths are hard to reason with due to their lack of aforementioned empathy, manipulative nature, impulsivity, shallow emotions, and absence of remorse. If they killed once, they will kill again. permalink fedilink source parent [+] bobman@unilem.org -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about torturing them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) As a society, we should strive to be better than the people we judge for their crimes. Torturing people is just wrong, cruel, and unnecessary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bobman@unilem.org -13 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm sorry you feel that way. Maybe when you get more life experience, you'll realize that most scumbags will only avoid engaging in heinous acts if the deterrent for doing so is appropriate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elscallr@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago If that was a deterrent you wouldn't have people still working for Mexican cartels, would you? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RoquetteQueen@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let's say we do decide to torture murderers. Who is going to torture them? Are we going to pay for these people to have therapy (because they're really going to need it)? How would you feel if you found out your next-door neighbour tortures people for a living? What do we do when we find out, years later, that we've been torturing an innocent person? I think you need a little more life experience so you can realize that things aren't as simple as you seem to think they are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gee, how did we ever do it in the past? It's never been done before, lol. I think you need a little more life experience so you can realize that things aren’t as simple as you seem to think they are. Study history, then come back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, what could go wrong with doing things the way they were done in the past? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You were arguing that it was impossible. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You were arguing that it was the right thing to do. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 2 years ago Sure, bud. Goodbye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago Who are you talking to? That was my first comment here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) It doesn't, though. There's no evidence that the death penalty serves any sort of deterrent. It isn't a punitive measure, it's vengeance. If you're ok with vengeance I respect your opinion though I disagree, but we can't pretend it's anything but vengeance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I believe the use of the death penalty in severe cases isn't driven by vengeance; it's more about preventing the individual from causing harm to others in the future. It's important to recognize that not all criminals can be successfully rehabilitated, such as psychopaths or serial killers. However, if the death penalty were to exist, I believe it should be carried out by the person who pronounces the verdict personally. This would ensure that such a grave decision is not made lightly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elscallr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could you not prevent them from causing additional harm by not killing them? What if you're wrong? There's plenty of reason to leave them alive, but only one real reason to kill them, and that reason is vengeance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago Are you familiar with how the psychopathic mind functions? They lack empathy, and I don't mean it in a pejorative sense, no, I mean it literally. Psychopaths are hard to reason with due to their lack of aforementioned empathy, manipulative nature, impulsivity, shallow emotions, and absence of remorse. If they killed once, they will kill again. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I believe the use of the death penalty in severe cases isn't driven by vengeance; it's more about preventing the individual from causing harm to others in the future. It's important to recognize that not all criminals can be successfully rehabilitated, such as psychopaths or serial killers. However, if the death penalty were to exist, I believe it should be carried out by the person who pronounces the verdict personally. This would ensure that such a grave decision is not made lightly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elscallr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could you not prevent them from causing additional harm by not killing them? What if you're wrong? There's plenty of reason to leave them alive, but only one real reason to kill them, and that reason is vengeance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago Are you familiar with how the psychopathic mind functions? They lack empathy, and I don't mean it in a pejorative sense, no, I mean it literally. Psychopaths are hard to reason with due to their lack of aforementioned empathy, manipulative nature, impulsivity, shallow emotions, and absence of remorse. If they killed once, they will kill again. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could you not prevent them from causing additional harm by not killing them? What if you're wrong? There's plenty of reason to leave them alive, but only one real reason to kill them, and that reason is vengeance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago Are you familiar with how the psychopathic mind functions? They lack empathy, and I don't mean it in a pejorative sense, no, I mean it literally. Psychopaths are hard to reason with due to their lack of aforementioned empathy, manipulative nature, impulsivity, shallow emotions, and absence of remorse. If they killed once, they will kill again. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago Are you familiar with how the psychopathic mind functions? They lack empathy, and I don't mean it in a pejorative sense, no, I mean it literally. Psychopaths are hard to reason with due to their lack of aforementioned empathy, manipulative nature, impulsivity, shallow emotions, and absence of remorse. If they killed once, they will kill again. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] bobman@unilem.org -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about torturing them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) As a society, we should strive to be better than the people we judge for their crimes. Torturing people is just wrong, cruel, and unnecessary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bobman@unilem.org -13 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm sorry you feel that way. Maybe when you get more life experience, you'll realize that most scumbags will only avoid engaging in heinous acts if the deterrent for doing so is appropriate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elscallr@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago If that was a deterrent you wouldn't have people still working for Mexican cartels, would you? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RoquetteQueen@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let's say we do decide to torture murderers. Who is going to torture them? Are we going to pay for these people to have therapy (because they're really going to need it)? How would you feel if you found out your next-door neighbour tortures people for a living? What do we do when we find out, years later, that we've been torturing an innocent person? I think you need a little more life experience so you can realize that things aren't as simple as you seem to think they are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gee, how did we ever do it in the past? It's never been done before, lol. I think you need a little more life experience so you can realize that things aren’t as simple as you seem to think they are. Study history, then come back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, what could go wrong with doing things the way they were done in the past? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You were arguing that it was impossible. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You were arguing that it was the right thing to do. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 2 years ago Sure, bud. Goodbye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago Who are you talking to? That was my first comment here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) As a society, we should strive to be better than the people we judge for their crimes. Torturing people is just wrong, cruel, and unnecessary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bobman@unilem.org -13 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm sorry you feel that way. Maybe when you get more life experience, you'll realize that most scumbags will only avoid engaging in heinous acts if the deterrent for doing so is appropriate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elscallr@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago If that was a deterrent you wouldn't have people still working for Mexican cartels, would you? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RoquetteQueen@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let's say we do decide to torture murderers. Who is going to torture them? Are we going to pay for these people to have therapy (because they're really going to need it)? How would you feel if you found out your next-door neighbour tortures people for a living? What do we do when we find out, years later, that we've been torturing an innocent person? I think you need a little more life experience so you can realize that things aren't as simple as you seem to think they are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gee, how did we ever do it in the past? It's never been done before, lol. I think you need a little more life experience so you can realize that things aren’t as simple as you seem to think they are. Study history, then come back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, what could go wrong with doing things the way they were done in the past? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You were arguing that it was impossible. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You were arguing that it was the right thing to do. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 2 years ago Sure, bud. Goodbye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago Who are you talking to? That was my first comment here. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] bobman@unilem.org -13 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm sorry you feel that way. Maybe when you get more life experience, you'll realize that most scumbags will only avoid engaging in heinous acts if the deterrent for doing so is appropriate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elscallr@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago If that was a deterrent you wouldn't have people still working for Mexican cartels, would you? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RoquetteQueen@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let's say we do decide to torture murderers. Who is going to torture them? Are we going to pay for these people to have therapy (because they're really going to need it)? How would you feel if you found out your next-door neighbour tortures people for a living? What do we do when we find out, years later, that we've been torturing an innocent person? I think you need a little more life experience so you can realize that things aren't as simple as you seem to think they are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gee, how did we ever do it in the past? It's never been done before, lol. I think you need a little more life experience so you can realize that things aren’t as simple as you seem to think they are. Study history, then come back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, what could go wrong with doing things the way they were done in the past? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You were arguing that it was impossible. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You were arguing that it was the right thing to do. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 2 years ago Sure, bud. Goodbye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago Who are you talking to? That was my first comment here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago If that was a deterrent you wouldn't have people still working for Mexican cartels, would you? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RoquetteQueen@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let's say we do decide to torture murderers. Who is going to torture them? Are we going to pay for these people to have therapy (because they're really going to need it)? How would you feel if you found out your next-door neighbour tortures people for a living? What do we do when we find out, years later, that we've been torturing an innocent person? I think you need a little more life experience so you can realize that things aren't as simple as you seem to think they are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gee, how did we ever do it in the past? It's never been done before, lol. I think you need a little more life experience so you can realize that things aren’t as simple as you seem to think they are. Study history, then come back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, what could go wrong with doing things the way they were done in the past? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You were arguing that it was impossible. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You were arguing that it was the right thing to do. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 2 years ago Sure, bud. Goodbye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago Who are you talking to? That was my first comment here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bobman@unilem.org -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gee, how did we ever do it in the past? It's never been done before, lol. I think you need a little more life experience so you can realize that things aren’t as simple as you seem to think they are. Study history, then come back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, what could go wrong with doing things the way they were done in the past? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You were arguing that it was impossible. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You were arguing that it was the right thing to do. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 2 years ago Sure, bud. Goodbye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago Who are you talking to? That was my first comment here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, what could go wrong with doing things the way they were done in the past? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You were arguing that it was impossible. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You were arguing that it was the right thing to do. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 2 years ago Sure, bud. Goodbye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago Who are you talking to? That was my first comment here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bobman@unilem.org -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You were arguing that it was impossible. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You were arguing that it was the right thing to do. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 2 years ago Sure, bud. Goodbye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago Who are you talking to? That was my first comment here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] some_guy@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You were arguing that it was the right thing to do. Now try to say something of substance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobman@unilem.org -1 points 2 years ago Sure, bud. Goodbye. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago Who are you talking to? That was my first comment here. permalink fedilink source parent