▲ 88 ▼ Late Stage Capitalism is when Finland bans symbols of communism. 'It's always East Europe against Communist Symbols', 'Banning the communist symbol makes you a nazi.', (sh.itjust.works) submitted 2 years ago by goat@sh.itjust.works [M] to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works 60 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] goat@sh.itjust.works [S] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Isn't doing things for the sake of the state nationalism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MxM111@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago You do not do that for the sake of state. You do that for the collective. State is just bureaucratic representation of that. In fascist Germany you would do that for the Germany and German nation specifically. In USSR you do not do that for USSR or USSR nation (there was no such thing). permalink fedilink source parent [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago Generally that's regarded as civic nationalism ("People are bound together by a common government"), whereas most people think of ethnic nationalism ("People are bound together by common descent or culture") when they speak of nationalism. Though there is a strong argument to be made for the SovUnion being an extension of Russian domination over other ethnicities, just like the Russian Empire which preceded it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MxM111@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago You do not do that for the sake of state. You do that for the collective. State is just bureaucratic representation of that. In fascist Germany you would do that for the Germany and German nation specifically. In USSR you do not do that for USSR or USSR nation (there was no such thing). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago Generally that's regarded as civic nationalism ("People are bound together by a common government"), whereas most people think of ethnic nationalism ("People are bound together by common descent or culture") when they speak of nationalism. Though there is a strong argument to be made for the SovUnion being an extension of Russian domination over other ethnicities, just like the Russian Empire which preceded it. permalink fedilink source parent