▲ 1460 ▼ The Welsh disagree. (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by SomeoneElse@lemmy.world [M] to c/confidently_incorrect@lemmy.world 156 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Deceptichum@kbin.social -28 points 3 years ago (8 children) A dead language is one that isn’t used by real people everyday, not a language some academics can still speak. That’s why Welsh and Irish are basically considered dead to many because the native speakers are so few that it could disappear very easily. Also who the fuck speaks Latin still? Does the papal city place in Italy even speak that during it’s day to do going ons? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] gmtom@lemmy.world 36 points 3 years ago What are you on about? Welsh is by no definition "basically considered a dead language" over 30% of the country can speak Welsh. And its on all official communication, like government websites, announcements, road signs etc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 27 points 3 years ago (1 child) That’s why Welsh and Irish are basically considered dead to many Uh...no. As far as I know, none of these languages are dead. Irish is dying but it's not dead yet. Welsh is thriving and is pretty much the only Celtic language being passed down the next generation consistently and has a vigorous community with a respectable size. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Cape Breton has native Scots Gaelic speakers (several communities in our highlands), as well as the Gaelic College. It's not as dead as people think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Tha iad math air dannsa-ceum ann an Ceap Breatainn... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sorry, I don't speak it. I only know because it was the next county over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago They are good at line dancing in Cape Breton. permalink fedilink source parent [–] scottyjoe9@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 years ago (2 children) I think people call languages with very few native speakers "endangered languages". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elxeno@lemm.ee 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) They need to capture some of those languages for some captive breeding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Historical_General@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago Just don't let it breed with English. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Unescos ratings are: Vulnerable, definitely endangered, severely endangered and critically endangered. Once a language loses all of its native speakers, it becomes an extinct language [but can be revived]. Welsh and also Scots are vulnerable whilst Scottish Gaelic and Irish are definitely endangered. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago (1 child) "the papal city place in Italy" shows how great your knowledge is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Deceptichum@kbin.social -9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh sorry, excuse me for not remembering the paedophile palaces name. Honestly the Vatican isn’t worth remembering, along with the hate filled ideology it promotes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) You're right, btw. Religiosity is still strong in Wales and other parts of the UK. Lots of Catholics, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] havocpants@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago It's the Methodists that were big in Wales, not the Catholics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago A dead language is one which has no native speakers alive to speak it e.g Latin. Irish and Welsh aren't dead. The only dead Celtic language im aware of (but it has been revived since) is Manx, with the last native speaker dying in the 1970s. permalink fedilink source parent [–] charlytune@mander.xyz 9 points 3 years ago You know there are Welsh schools right? And that the Welsh government has two official languages, Welsh and English? And that all official documents have to be bilingual? I've heard people speaking Welsh to each other in Wales, and I know someone for whom Welsh is their first language. Does that sound dead? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Resol@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago Technically, Latin is a dead language, but not an extinct language. It could (heavy emphasis on "could") come back all of a sudden. That's what happened to Hebrew. Extinct languages aren't even spoken by anyone anymore. Not even a single soul. Gone beyond the point of repair. Disappeared for good, like dinosaurs and dodo birds and megalodon. permalink fedilink source parent [+] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 36 points 3 years ago What are you on about? Welsh is by no definition "basically considered a dead language" over 30% of the country can speak Welsh. And its on all official communication, like government websites, announcements, road signs etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 27 points 3 years ago (1 child) That’s why Welsh and Irish are basically considered dead to many Uh...no. As far as I know, none of these languages are dead. Irish is dying but it's not dead yet. Welsh is thriving and is pretty much the only Celtic language being passed down the next generation consistently and has a vigorous community with a respectable size. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Cape Breton has native Scots Gaelic speakers (several communities in our highlands), as well as the Gaelic College. It's not as dead as people think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Tha iad math air dannsa-ceum ann an Ceap Breatainn... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sorry, I don't speak it. I only know because it was the next county over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago They are good at line dancing in Cape Breton. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Cape Breton has native Scots Gaelic speakers (several communities in our highlands), as well as the Gaelic College. It's not as dead as people think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Tha iad math air dannsa-ceum ann an Ceap Breatainn... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sorry, I don't speak it. I only know because it was the next county over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago They are good at line dancing in Cape Breton. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Tha iad math air dannsa-ceum ann an Ceap Breatainn... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sorry, I don't speak it. I only know because it was the next county over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago They are good at line dancing in Cape Breton. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sorry, I don't speak it. I only know because it was the next county over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago They are good at line dancing in Cape Breton. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago They are good at line dancing in Cape Breton. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scottyjoe9@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 years ago (2 children) I think people call languages with very few native speakers "endangered languages". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elxeno@lemm.ee 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) They need to capture some of those languages for some captive breeding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Historical_General@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago Just don't let it breed with English. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Unescos ratings are: Vulnerable, definitely endangered, severely endangered and critically endangered. Once a language loses all of its native speakers, it becomes an extinct language [but can be revived]. Welsh and also Scots are vulnerable whilst Scottish Gaelic and Irish are definitely endangered. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] elxeno@lemm.ee 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) They need to capture some of those languages for some captive breeding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Historical_General@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago Just don't let it breed with English. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Historical_General@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago Just don't let it breed with English. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Unescos ratings are: Vulnerable, definitely endangered, severely endangered and critically endangered. Once a language loses all of its native speakers, it becomes an extinct language [but can be revived]. Welsh and also Scots are vulnerable whilst Scottish Gaelic and Irish are definitely endangered. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago (1 child) "the papal city place in Italy" shows how great your knowledge is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Deceptichum@kbin.social -9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh sorry, excuse me for not remembering the paedophile palaces name. Honestly the Vatican isn’t worth remembering, along with the hate filled ideology it promotes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) You're right, btw. Religiosity is still strong in Wales and other parts of the UK. Lots of Catholics, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] havocpants@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago It's the Methodists that were big in Wales, not the Catholics. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Deceptichum@kbin.social -9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh sorry, excuse me for not remembering the paedophile palaces name. Honestly the Vatican isn’t worth remembering, along with the hate filled ideology it promotes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) You're right, btw. Religiosity is still strong in Wales and other parts of the UK. Lots of Catholics, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] havocpants@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago It's the Methodists that were big in Wales, not the Catholics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) You're right, btw. Religiosity is still strong in Wales and other parts of the UK. Lots of Catholics, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] havocpants@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago It's the Methodists that were big in Wales, not the Catholics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] havocpants@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago It's the Methodists that were big in Wales, not the Catholics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago A dead language is one which has no native speakers alive to speak it e.g Latin. Irish and Welsh aren't dead. The only dead Celtic language im aware of (but it has been revived since) is Manx, with the last native speaker dying in the 1970s. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] charlytune@mander.xyz 9 points 3 years ago You know there are Welsh schools right? And that the Welsh government has two official languages, Welsh and English? And that all official documents have to be bilingual? I've heard people speaking Welsh to each other in Wales, and I know someone for whom Welsh is their first language. Does that sound dead? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Resol@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago Technically, Latin is a dead language, but not an extinct language. It could (heavy emphasis on "could") come back all of a sudden. That's what happened to Hebrew. Extinct languages aren't even spoken by anyone anymore. Not even a single soul. Gone beyond the point of repair. Disappeared for good, like dinosaurs and dodo birds and megalodon. permalink fedilink source parent