▲ 115 ▼ Apple allegedly arguing iMessage isn't big enough to be EU gatekeeper service (appleinsider.com) submitted 2 years ago by octalfudge@lemmy.world to c/apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world 24 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Onse@lemmy.ml 73 points 2 years ago (3 children) tbf, Apple‘s iMessage dominance is mostly a US based phenomenon. In European countries, many people use WhatsApp and telegram. Anecdotal evidence: I don’t know anybody using iMessage. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fer0n@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Same, I don’t know anyone using iMessage and I’m deep into Apple circles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glad_cat@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Same in France. Apple or not, it’s still mostly WhatsApp and a bit of Telegram around me. Only old iPhone users who haven’t installed anything are using iMessage because it’s the default application. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fraydabson@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I live in the states and I do not know a single person who still uses WhatsApp. Everyone uses iMessage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fer0n@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Has WhatsApp ever been bigger than iMessage there? From what I heard it was basically SMS → iMessage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Part of the reason was because of sms pricing on thr earlier days. Sms was quickly free in the U.S, so they used sms because it was there. Many regions used whatsapp and similar to avoid sms charges in the early days. That usage habit still exists today permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You also have a lot of movement of people between countries in the EU, and international SMS still isn’t unlimited/free for most mobile plans worldwide. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* People in each country used whatever everyone else is using. In the US that became text/iMessage. This was partially driven by the way cell companies charged in the US with free texts but limits on data (iMessage uses data, but it came later). In other countries the better at the time options won out. We talk to our friends in Europe and Africa with WhatsApp. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago That’s not quite what I see in France. Many people use Whatsapp to text friends/family when they’re abroad. But everyday, I mostly see classic SMS texts (or iMessage) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fer0n@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Same, I don’t know anyone using iMessage and I’m deep into Apple circles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glad_cat@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Same in France. Apple or not, it’s still mostly WhatsApp and a bit of Telegram around me. Only old iPhone users who haven’t installed anything are using iMessage because it’s the default application. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fraydabson@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I live in the states and I do not know a single person who still uses WhatsApp. Everyone uses iMessage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fer0n@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Has WhatsApp ever been bigger than iMessage there? From what I heard it was basically SMS → iMessage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Part of the reason was because of sms pricing on thr earlier days. Sms was quickly free in the U.S, so they used sms because it was there. Many regions used whatsapp and similar to avoid sms charges in the early days. That usage habit still exists today permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You also have a lot of movement of people between countries in the EU, and international SMS still isn’t unlimited/free for most mobile plans worldwide. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] glad_cat@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Same in France. Apple or not, it’s still mostly WhatsApp and a bit of Telegram around me. Only old iPhone users who haven’t installed anything are using iMessage because it’s the default application. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fraydabson@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I live in the states and I do not know a single person who still uses WhatsApp. Everyone uses iMessage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fer0n@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Has WhatsApp ever been bigger than iMessage there? From what I heard it was basically SMS → iMessage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Part of the reason was because of sms pricing on thr earlier days. Sms was quickly free in the U.S, so they used sms because it was there. Many regions used whatsapp and similar to avoid sms charges in the early days. That usage habit still exists today permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You also have a lot of movement of people between countries in the EU, and international SMS still isn’t unlimited/free for most mobile plans worldwide. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fraydabson@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I live in the states and I do not know a single person who still uses WhatsApp. Everyone uses iMessage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fer0n@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Has WhatsApp ever been bigger than iMessage there? From what I heard it was basically SMS → iMessage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Part of the reason was because of sms pricing on thr earlier days. Sms was quickly free in the U.S, so they used sms because it was there. Many regions used whatsapp and similar to avoid sms charges in the early days. That usage habit still exists today permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You also have a lot of movement of people between countries in the EU, and international SMS still isn’t unlimited/free for most mobile plans worldwide. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fer0n@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Has WhatsApp ever been bigger than iMessage there? From what I heard it was basically SMS → iMessage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Part of the reason was because of sms pricing on thr earlier days. Sms was quickly free in the U.S, so they used sms because it was there. Many regions used whatsapp and similar to avoid sms charges in the early days. That usage habit still exists today permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You also have a lot of movement of people between countries in the EU, and international SMS still isn’t unlimited/free for most mobile plans worldwide. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Part of the reason was because of sms pricing on thr earlier days. Sms was quickly free in the U.S, so they used sms because it was there. Many regions used whatsapp and similar to avoid sms charges in the early days. That usage habit still exists today permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You also have a lot of movement of people between countries in the EU, and international SMS still isn’t unlimited/free for most mobile plans worldwide. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You also have a lot of movement of people between countries in the EU, and international SMS still isn’t unlimited/free for most mobile plans worldwide. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* People in each country used whatever everyone else is using. In the US that became text/iMessage. This was partially driven by the way cell companies charged in the US with free texts but limits on data (iMessage uses data, but it came later). In other countries the better at the time options won out. We talk to our friends in Europe and Africa with WhatsApp. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago That’s not quite what I see in France. Many people use Whatsapp to text friends/family when they’re abroad. But everyday, I mostly see classic SMS texts (or iMessage) permalink fedilink source parent