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framework 13 AMD... yay or nay? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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hi,

pretty much the subject... I am trying to choose my next laptop and I am tempted to buy a framework 13 AMD. I saw this post from one year ago : https://www.phoronix.com/review/framework-13-amd

and while the review is impressive, comments are not. how things have evolved since then? any experience?

EDIT: you convinced me, I just ordered mine. Thanks for the incredible answers !
NEW EDIT: I use arch (btw), and Gnome. For the answers, I do not think this will pose a problem but... what do you think?
(and yes, I ordered mine before reading last comment of paequ2 who doesn't like it... for reasonable reasons, maybe. I hope I will have more luck ;) )

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[–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

I have a linux desktop with dual 4K screens and I don't have problems with high DPI? The only problems I've come across is with Wine which is easly fixed within the winecfg.

I'm on OpenSuSE, using KDE in X11. I DID have scaling problems with Wayland which I avoid until it is fit for daily use.

Of course 4k is 4 times 1080p (or twice in X and Y dimensions) so maybe it's much easier to scale to? 2K on the Framework is an odd resolution so maybe scaling would be more troublesome? 1080p to 1440p would be 1.3x scaling.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don’t have problems with high DPI ... only problems I’ve come across is ... I DID have scaling problems with Wayland

    This is exactly my point. You did have problems with high DPI. You had to fix some random config and avoid Wayland.

    I don't want to deal with this. I want to be able to use whatever software I want and have it work with minimal or no extra "fixing". I value this over slightly neater pixels.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Then you shouldnt have picked wayland, period. There is a reason its still experimental. And in general, hearing you talk, im not sure linux is your thing in general. Even in linux mint i have to poke in cli once in a while..

    EDIT: as i mentioned below,i just gave it another go as i recently upgraded linux mint. Keyboard layout was stuck to us so altgr didnt work. Teams window could also not be double clicked to maximize and remote desktop via remmina was acting odd, like my mouse had shifted to the right. Desktop wallpaper was also shifted. Like i said, experimental on some systems ( in this case linux mint ) :)

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Wayland hasn't been experimental for a while. Both KDE Plasma and GNOME have defaulted to Wayland for a while now indicating it's ready to be used. And in fact, scaling works better on Wayland than on X11 but I suppose ymmv.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    I know a few distros have switched, and i support it 1000%!
    I know ive had a few glitches in linux mint which suggests they need to fix some stuff with cinnamon in wayland still ( and a few other apps ), hence my stance towards wayland atm. I love every piece of it but imma wait a liiiitle longer. The reason i think op's issues came from either wayland or fedora because on debian-based distros ive had no issues on my framework 16, nor on the framework 13's that are at the office ( ubuntu, linux mint, windows )

    Edit: just gave it another go as i recently upgraded linux mint. Keyboard layout was stuck to us so altgr didnt work. Teams window could also not be double clicked to maximize and remote desktop via remmina was acting odd, like my mouse had shifted to the right. Desktop wallpaper was also shifted. Like i said, experimental on some systems :)

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Ok but you're talking about Cinnamon. Cinnamon's Wayland support is experimental sure, but that doesn't mean Wayland itself is. I mentioned KDE Plasma and GNOME because they are the ones using Wayland for the longest now and have the best support for it and there it works better than X11.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    You are correct. Its just that wayland is not as cut and dry of "everyone should switch to wayland, it works 100%" because thats not true.
    Ye, my comment should have been "wayland support is experimental on some distros" and not "wayland is experimental" to be more correct but hey, if people could stop shouting at me to switch to wayland because it just works, id be happy.

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